Early to bed, early to rise.... by deadlockvictim

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Hello,

I'm not a fan of Bush, but some criticisms of the man are rediculous.

He goes to bed early? Good. I would like my president to be well rested.

He doesn't wait up for results? Good. I would like my president to be patient.

He has low approval ratings? The Democrats should be sure to throw stones from the roofs of their glass houses.

If you're going to tear the man to shreds, try doing it on valid points. There are many of them to choose from.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Thursday, January 3, 2008 7:29 PM

America loves a winner!

"Early to bed, early to rise "

Wasn't it Ben Franklin who first coined those words? True then as they are today. Say what you want about W, he's certainly gained wisdom w/ age, unlike some of his contemporaries. At the least,if a man is judged on how he lives his life, W certainly walks the walk. It's harder to find fault in a man who lets his actions speak louder than his words, butchered though they may be.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

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Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
It's harder to find fault in a man who lets his actions speak louder than his words, butchered though they may be.

Stalin, for instance was a man of action, not words.

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Friday, January 4, 2008 1:53 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by deadlockvictim:
i really try not to do this.... but when a Democrat is elected president.... our side will catch plenty of hell...

Heh..... your side.

I hate that mentality. That's how we've gotten so phucked as a nation today.

I believe the Democrats running today, with the possible exception of Dennis Kucinich and his lovely and extremely intelligent potential first lady, are the worst thing that could happen to all of us.....

save the election of Ghouliani, of course.

I would vote even for Hilary if Mr. 9/11 ever got the nod, and sadly, I'm dead serious about that. I'm very happy to see him finish 6th place in Iowa with a 3% showing.

Incidentally, Ron Paul beat the man with a showing in double digits. Not too shabby for the rogue candidate that only pot smokers from the lunatic fringe would vote for, huh?

Maybe that's the problem... not enough people smoke pot. Maybe the lunatic fringe today is a whole lot larger than we've ever imagined it to be, outside of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.

I invite all of you pill poppers, over-eaters and boob-tube junkies to throw stones at me now for suggesting that you might see things a little more clearly if you put down the yard-stick and picked up a joint.

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Friday, January 4, 2008 3:23 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
It's harder to find fault in a man who lets his actions speak louder than his words, butchered though they may be.
Stalin, for instance was a man of action, not words.

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Right. So Bush = Stalin?

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Friday, January 4, 2008 3:40 AM

If you say so. I didn't.

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Friday, January 4, 2008 3:41 AM

GRIZWALD

Well, I'm an Iowan, and I voted in the caucus, and I'm also in the same time zone of the caucus, and I didn't stay up for the whole thing. I went to bed at 11:00 p.m., which is midnight Washington time.

I certainly hope the President was sound asleep by that point.

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Friday, January 4, 2008 4:20 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Right. So Bush = Stalin?

Stalin was a very bad man; Bush is merely an idiot- I see a big difference.
But what makes you equate the two AU?

Chrisisall

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Friday, January 4, 2008 5:11 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
If you say so. I didn't.

It was clearly inferred by you, and don't try to say it wasn't.

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Friday, January 4, 2008 5:12 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

Right. So Bush = Stalin?

Stalin was a very bad man; Bush is merely an idiot- I see a big difference.
But what makes you equate the two AU?

Chrisisall

Not me. Ask citizen. He's the one who made the inferrence.

Bush may be stubborn, I'll grant that, but an idiot ? Nothing in his military testing ( air force pilot ) or 2 Ivy League degrees he has indicates he's an idiot.

Look, I get folks like to poke fun at W for how he speaks, but the hard cold facts are that he's every bit as smart, if not smarter, than JFKerry. And yet W gets tagged as being the dunce 1000 to 1 over Kerry. Why is that ? Oh yeah, because the mainstream media has said it's so, that's why. Indifferent, unbiased testing says otherwise.

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Friday, January 4, 2008 5:22 AM

WASHNWEAR

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:
Originally posted by deadlockvictim:
i really try not to do this.... but when a Democrat is elected president.... our side will catch plenty of hell...
I invite all of you pill poppers, over-eaters and boob-tube junkies to throw stones at me now for suggesting that you might see things a little more clearly if you put down the yard-stick and picked up a joint.

A-l-l-r-r-ighty, then - how high would ya like that joint picked up?

It was all cool buds and tasty waves when we got here!

PS - Edited for misspelling "tasty".

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Friday, January 4, 2008 5:49 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
It was clearly inferred by you, and don't try to say it wasn't.

The inference was clearly you're own, and don't try to say it wasn't. I was refuting you're assertion that a man of action is somehow less open to criticism.

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Friday, January 4, 2008 6:01 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
It was clearly inferred by you, and don't try to say it wasn't.
The inference was clearly you're own, and don't try to say it wasn't. I was refuting you're assertion that a man of action is somehow less open to criticism.

And here we go. All I did was ask the question. YOU were the one who inferred a connection, not I. Too often Bush has been falsly accused of being a "cowboy", a misnomer on its own. Bush is anytning but rash and reckless, as some would assert. The 'early to bed, early to rise' lifestyle of Bush contradicts some of his critic's views on him, that's all I was sayin'. Not that he was Stalin.

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Friday, January 4, 2008 6:35 AM

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

I think Citizen was attacking the reasoning:
"Man of Action" could mean anything, even Stalin, and is not necessarily something to aspire to on its own.

Not inferring that Bush was equal to Stalin, which I think is something we can all agree is NOT the case.

--Anthony

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Friday, January 4, 2008 6:43 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Why Stalin? Why not Churchill?

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Friday, January 4, 2008 6:49 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
YOU were the one who inferred a connection, not I.

No, it was still you. I've been very clear that I wasn't making that connection, in fact the only place the connection appears is in your post.
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The 'early to bed, early to rise' lifestyle of Bush contradicts some of his critic's views on him, that's all I was sayin'. Not that he was Stalin.
Kinda like how I wasn't saying he was Stalin.

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Friday, January 4, 2008 6:51 AM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Why Stalin? Why not Churchill?

Hello,

Why not God? Or the Devil?

All 'men of action', a term which is meaningless without context.

--Anthony

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Friday, January 4, 2008 6:54 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

I agree context is important. Of all men of action, why pick Stalin?

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Friday, January 4, 2008 6:58 AM

FLETCH2

It's also not a general election. At least one of the winners last night wont be President so why is this important enough to lose sleep over?

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Friday, January 4, 2008 6:59 AM

FLETCH2

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
I agree context is important. Of all men of action, why pick Stalin?

I think to refute the suggestion that being a "man of action" is always a good thing.

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Friday, January 4, 2008 7:00 AM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
I agree context is important. Of all men of action, why pick Stalin?

Hello,

Because if you want to show 'Man of Action' as a fallacious quality outside of context, you obviously pick an example that supports your point.

i.e. "Man of Action? You mean, like George Washington?!"

Doesn't have the same impact in an argument as:

"Man of Action? You mean, like Stalin?!"

--Anthony

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Friday, January 4, 2008 7:01 AM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Why Stalin? Why not Churchill?

Anthony is correct. Why not Churchill? Because Churchill is generally considered someone 'good', and would hardly be a good example for why a man of action isn't automatically good. It would be like saying "not all black people are good basketball players, just look at Michael Jordan."

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Friday, January 4, 2008 7:09 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

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Originally posted by citizen:
Anthony is correct. Why not Churchill? Because Churchill is generally considered someone 'good', and would hardly be a good example for why a man of action isn't automatically good. It would be like saying "not all black people are good basketball players, just look at Michael Jordan."

And here I thought Auraptor said it is harder to find fault with a man who lets his actions speak louder than his words. You know, someone who walks the talk. I do not know how that became a man of action being automatically good. Man context is a bugger.

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Friday, January 4, 2008 7:35 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Indifferent, unbiased testing says otherwise.

Just barely passing grades in an Ivy League school means yer smart?

Look- money buys intelligence- or so it seems.
"Indifferent, unbiased"... don't make me laugh, boy. No such animal where $ is concerned.

isall

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Friday, January 4, 2008 8:59 AM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
And here I thought Auraptor said it is harder to find fault with a man who lets his actions speak louder than his words. You know, someone who walks the talk. I do not know how that became a man of action being automatically good. Man context is a bugger.

Yeah, that was what I was arguing against. Stalin let his actions speak louder than his words, but I don't have a problem finding fault with him. Do you?

AURaptor is making out that it's hard to find fault with someone who 'walks the talk', but it really isn't. Stalin said he was going to kill a bunch of his countrymen, and he went off and killed a bunch of his countrymen, he certainly walked his talk. So does that mean it's harder to find fault with him now?

EDITED for clarity.

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Friday, January 4, 2008 11:14 AM

FREMDFIRMA

I second Six's comment, go torch a phattie, willya ?

I love that "Magic" 29% - how stupid do they think we are ?

"Falls this week to 29%..
Plummeted this week to an abysmal 29%..
Falls even further to a new low of 29%.."

Does the media think we're stupid, that we can't count, or have short term memory issues ?
(ok maybe smokin a phattie isn't such a good.. what was I saying again ?... )

I hates em all prettymuch, Bush, the Neocon/PNAC/Clean Break cabal, the Republicans (and I do consider those SEPERATE things), the Greens, cause Nader's such a sellout bitch who'd sell US out the minute he was elected too, and those spineless pissant Democrats.

But yeah, if I hadda call it, I'd admit to hating the Tory/Federalist/Whig/KnowNothing/Republican/Neocon/Straussian asswipes who've been sticking it to us in one long unbroken chain since 1700, sure.

Doesn't mean I like the Tammany Hall crowd all that much better.

Only one I find even tolerable is Ron Paul, cause the ghost of Patrick Henry is hovering in the darkness behind him with a set of pom-poms if you look real close.

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Friday, January 4, 2008 5:10 PM

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No, you used 'Stalin' as your comparison, not I. Thus, it was YOU who inferred Bush is equal to Stalin. Prior to your post, there had been no mention of Stalin what so ever in this thread.

Game. Set. Match.

Thanks for playing.

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Saturday, January 5, 2008 2:11 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
No, you used 'Stalin' as your comparison, not I. Thus, it was YOU who inferred Bush is equal to Stalin. Prior to your post, there had been no mention of Stalin what so ever in this thread.

Before you posted no one mentioned you, so you must be comparing yourself to Bush!! Your logic isn't. I can mention any name without it being a comparison to Bush, look:
Pol Pot
Peter Pan
The Wizard of Oz
Tiffany Aching

I'm not comparing any of them to bush, yet none of them have been mentioned in any posts yet! Wow, I guess that means not everything is about Bush, at least for me. But then, I'm not irrationally in love with the man.

The only person who made any comparison between Bush and Stalin, was you. Demonstrably so from the fact that the only post where any comparison was indicated, had your name above it.

You may be stupid enough to confuse your strawman arguments with what I'm actually saying, but thankfully I am not, and few others on this board are (for instance AnthonyT who has also tried to set you straight on what I was saying, but in your arrogance you evidently ignored).

Please continue, your lies and strawmen have so far just shown you up as a moron, but you can do better than that, keep going and you can show yourself to be a troll as well. More rope to hang yourself with sir?

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Saturday, January 5, 2008 4:59 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
No, you used 'Stalin' as your comparison, not I. Thus, it was YOU who inferred Bush is equal to Stalin. Prior to your post, there had been no mention of Stalin what so ever in this thread.
Before you posted no one mentioned you, so you must be comparing yourself to Bush!! Your logic isn't. I can mention any name without it being a comparison to Bush, look:
Pol Pot
Peter Pan
The Wizard of Oz
Tiffany Aching

I'm not comparing any of them to bush, yet none of them have been mentioned in any posts yet! Wow, I guess that means not everything is about Bush, at least for me. But then, I'm not irrationally in love with the man.

The only person who made any comparison between Bush and Stalin, was you. Demonstrably so from the fact that the only post where any comparison was indicated, had your name above it.

You may be stupid enough to confuse your strawman arguments with what I'm actually saying, but thankfully I am not, and few others on this board are (for instance AnthonyT who has also tried to set you straight on what I was saying, but in your arrogance you evidently ignored).

Please continue, your lies and strawmen have so far just shown you up as a moron, but you can do better than that, keep going and you can show yourself to be a troll as well. More rope to hang yourself with sir?

I don't understand why you just don't admit you compared Bush to Stalin and leave it at that. Unless you simply enjoy wasting time and filling up the board w/ your lame troll b.s. Are you SOO starved for attention that you can't leave it be ?

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citizen wrote: Stalin, for instance was a man of action, not words.

There was no mention of anyone else but Stalin, in a post about Bush. Here is a direct commentary about Bush, comparing him to Statlin. Hmmm.....This reply was to MY post which simply pointed out that Bush was no ' cowboy ' , as he's so falsly accused of being.

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Saturday, January 5, 2008 5:10 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I don't understand why you just don't admit you compared Bush to Stalin and leave it at that. Unless you simply enjoy wasting time and filling up the board w/ your lame troll b.s. Are you SOO starved for attention that you can't leave it be ?

Because I didn't, again the only person who did was you. The person doing most of the work to perpetuate this is you. Just about everyone reading this knows what I was trying to say, and someone other than myself has supported that interpretation over your own outright lies. The fact you're so desperate to hang yourself by your own petard while ignoring those trying to set you straight is a failing of your own intellect in the face of your own arrogance, and does not reflect badly on me at all. I'm being incredibly reasonable in the face of an unreasonable poster, who not only is dragging this thread in to baseless accusations, but is ignoring reality and all the people pointing it out.

I don't know why you have to blame me for your trollish behaviour, maybe it's the attention thing you were just talking about. Or maybe you're just too childish and idiotic to take responsibility for your own actions?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
There was no mention of anyone else but Stalin, in a post about Bush.

There was also no mention of Bush in my post. A lie AURaptor spins in the face of evidence. Clearly no link to Bush was implied, if it was I would have to mention Bush somewhere in my post surely. Some people lie so often they can't seperate their lies from reality perhaps?

The only time any link between Stalin and Bush was mentioned, express or implied:

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Bush = Stalin?

I direct attention to the name above that post.

Likewise I'll quote AnthonyT:

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
I think Citizen was attacking the reasoning:
"Man of Action" could mean anything, even Stalin, and is not necessarily something to aspire to on its own.

Not inferring that Bush was equal to Stalin, which I think is something we can all agree is NOT the case.

Only someone truly delusional, or too invested in lying and cowardice (or maybe both) would continue to insist I made a connection that not only I say I didn't make, but others have said I didn't make. Only petty minded arrogance would assume that their own interpretation flawless in the face of the original poster setting them straight. It really is, though a a useful example, you said:

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It's harder to find fault in a man who lets his actions speak louder than his words, butchered though they may be.

You are lying about what I said, as you accuse the MSM of doing, thank you AU, for being this boards answer for the MSM

.

I believe you've hung yourself on enough rope today, as such I leave, safe in the knowledge that not only have I proven my point, but that you have made yourself look the fool (again) while trying to attack me. Though I'm sure you think you've been incredibly clever, delusion is surely the only way someone such as yourself can keep some semblance of self-esteem while perpetually making himself look like an idiot. Good bye AUTroll, as always it's been pointless.

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Saturday, January 5, 2008 4:16 PM

LEADB

Regarding the Stalin/Bush thing. Here's what I believe happened...

Someone(S) said "A is a good thing, and person B does thing A."
Person 2 (2) said "A is not always good thing, see this instance of person C doing thing A; thus it is unwise to say thing A is always a good thing."

S then said that 2 compared person B to person C; I believe this was an erroneous conclusion. Person 2 merely said that thing A is not always a good thing, and illustrated it.

In this case
A) A man of action/walk the talk.
B) Bush.
C) Stalin.

In any case, feel free to continue exchanging insults, I just felt compelled to point out the above.

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Sunday, January 6, 2008 7:26 AM

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Getting those here who already hate Bush and might just as well see him AS Stalin to agree with you isn't exactly winning the argument. It was you who first used the 'Stalin' comparison, not I. And of course, you've tossed out the baseless charge that I've somehow lied again, which is itself laughable. If anyone is lying, it's undeniable you, for failing to come clean and simply admit you're comparing Bush to Stalin. At least AnthonyT comes out and states what you could not, that Bush is NOT Stalin. All this could have been cleared up if you had done the same, but you opted not to, and instaed went w/ the overtly implied position as your fall back.

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Only someone truly delusional, or too invested in lying and cowardice (or maybe both)...

- You just described yourself, to a T. Well done.

Oh, and funny comment about the biased MSM. If you are trying to somehow paint the MSM as being unbiased toward the Left, then you're well over the side of the cliff w/ out a parachute on, and headed for the rocks below. There's nothing I , nor anyone, can do to save you there. Sorry

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Sunday, January 6, 2008 7:36 AM

I said a number of times I wasn't saying he was Stalin, it would have all been cleared up if you hadn't lied. But: Bush isn't Stalin.

Though AURaptor is still a liar.

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Sunday, January 6, 2008 7:58 AM

America loves a winner!

I never lied, and you know it. You wanted to compare Bush to Stalin, which is exactly why you posted your post as you did. Had you wanted to clarifly from the start, you would have. But you knew you could play this game of semantics, until I called you out and forced you to do an about face.

Well done.

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Sunday, January 6, 2008 8:11 AM

We both know you were Lying. Everyone on this thread knows you were lying. I clearly stated several times that I wasn't comparing them, so anyone who reads my posts knows you are lying. Several people have noted that your continued statements are at best erroneous. You're a liar, and by continuing to insist that your lie is true, you are merely proving to everyone that not only are you a liar, but a delusional and immoral one at that.

Please continue to prove me right, well done

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Sunday, January 6, 2008 9:09 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I never lied, and you know it. You wanted to compare Bush to Stalin, which is exactly why you posted your post as you did. Had you wanted to clarifly from the start, you would have. But you knew you could play this game of semantics, until I called you out and forced you to do an about face.

Well done.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

Hello,

Auraptor, I feel you are being obtuse in this argument. I don't know if you really don't understand Citizen, or if you are intentionally misrepresenting his position.

Either way, it has surpassed reasonability.

--Anthony

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Sunday, January 6, 2008 5:35 PM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by citizen:
We both know you were Lying. Everyone on this thread knows you were lying. I clearly stated several times that I wasn't comparing them, so anyone who reads my posts knows you are lying. Several people have noted that your continued statements are at best erroneous. You're a liar, and by continuing to insist that your lie is true, you are merely proving to everyone that not only are you a liar, but a delusional and immoral one at that.

Please continue to prove me right, well done

You're the one who is lying here. You started out comparing Bush to Stalin, and then when you realized how absurd and ridiculous that was, even for a Hate-America First member like yourself, you tried to some how spin your lie unto me. Guess that didn't work out too well for ya, huh? Just look at your first post in this thread! Liar.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, January 6, 2008 5:37 PM

America loves a winner!

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It's harder to find fault in a man who lets his actions speak louder than his words, butchered though they may be.
Stalin, for instance was a man of action, not words.

This thread was about Bush. I remarked about Bush in my response, and then twerp here took my words out of context and compared Bush to Stalin.

What a prick you are, citizen.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, January 6, 2008 5:51 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

No, Citizen took your LOGIC (or lack thereof) ABOUT Bush and used it.

Rap, I'm seriously worried about you. I used to wonder how such a partisan person could function in everyday life after XXX'ing out so many chunks of reality. And now I see the answer is - you can't. You're losing it.

You'll be babbling about the roaring economy, great homes sales, consumer confidence, WMDs everywhere in Iraq, and what a smart and wonderful president Bush is, before long.

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Sunday, January 6, 2008 11:25 PM

I like how everyone is telling him he's wrong, and he's continuing to lie about what I said. It's like the naughty little boy caught stealing who's pointing the finger at someone else and saying "he did it".

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Monday, January 7, 2008 12:02 AM

America loves a winner!

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I like how everyone is telling him he's wrong, and he's continuing to lie about what I said. It's like the naughty little boy caught stealing who's pointing the finger at someone else and saying "he did it".

All I've done is show the world your words, and anyone following the discussion in context knows you blatently tried to besmirch Bush by interjecting Stalin's name into the discussion. In no way , what so ever did I 'lie', and citizen knows that, but he can't come up w/ a worse derogatory comment to hurl my way. ( yawn ) It's so nonsensical to accuse me of 'lying' , it makes me wonder if there's an alternate meaning for the word over the pond.

rue - if you weren't so busy putting words in my mouth or exaggerating my position, I might take time to reply. But at this point, I fail to see the purpose.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Monday, January 7, 2008 12:05 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"But at this point, I fail to see the point."

On your way to denying all of that reality you dislike, just make sure you can still see those buses.

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Monday, January 7, 2008 1:57 AM