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Originally posted by whozit:
It's 3:00 a.m. August 2008, the phone rings. Barry Obama is woken on vacation, The Russians are attacking Georgia he's told. He says, have they made as far as Atlanta yet?

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
And by saying "this is pretty much standard for the left", aren't you both mocking and insulting people you pretty much know nothing about?

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You know I frequently check my tire pressure, not for gas mileage but for safety. I checked it Sunday, but still had to pay $ 3.88 for gas on Monday.

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Bush and McCain are for off-shore drilling, and the price was still $3.88 on Monday. Just like Obama, McCain thinks inflating one's tires is a good idea, and the price was still $3.88 on Monday.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I do the tire pressure thing & get engine tune-ups like most Americans do.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Perhaps he should have called Hillary at 3 am to get a basic understanding.

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Originally posted by Geezer:
If (editorial) you don't hold the individual in any esteem, then you don't care about anyone's individual dignity. Therefore it's all right to insult {you}.

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Originally posted by Hero:
Condi or John McCain. Both know the players, the region, the terrain, the time and distance factors, the military capabilities, and the economic and political interests of all the interested parties to a Russia-Georgia conflict.

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Originally posted by Hero:
I would not want to talk to Hillary at 3am for advice. We've seen her in the daytime...do you really want to risk talking to her when she's sleepy and irritable.

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I would not want to talk to Hillary at 3am for advice. We've seen her in the daytime...do you really want to risk talking to her when she's sleepy and irritable.

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Originally posted by Hero:

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Hillary at 3 am

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do you really want to risk talking to her when she's sleepy and irritable.

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Originally posted by Khyron:
but McCain? Seriously? After all of his gaffes when it comes to geography, and everything else, frankly, you'd still think he's one of the top two people to turn to with respect to this?

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Hillary at 3 am

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do you really want to risk talking to her when she's sleepy and irritable.

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Count me outisall

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Originally posted by whozit:
It's 3:00 a.m. August 2008, the phone rings. Barry Obama is woken on vacation, The Russians are attacking Georgia he's told. He says, have they made as far as Atlanta yet?

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Obama said the UN Security Council should vote on resoultion condemning Russia. I guess he doesn't know that Russia is a permanent member of the council, so there will never be any resolution passed. Perhaps he should have called Hillary at 3 am to get a basic understanding. Georgia & Ukraine have wanted to join NATO for years and America has tried to make it happen, but the Europeans have blocked it for fear of pissing off Russia. Now the ball's in their court, 'cause KGB Putee aint stoppin' with Georgia. He wants to get back to the USSR.

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Originally posted by Riverlove:
Who's zit, jeeesh, don't ya think your pearls of wisdom are perhaps just a tad over the line; lacking even a smattering of good taste and maturity?

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Originally posted by Riverlove:
Who's zit, jeeesh, don't ya think your pearls of wisdom are perhaps just a tad over the line; lacking even a smattering of good taste and maturity?

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River, he won't understand all that- just tell him to shut up, works better IMO.

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Who's zit, jeeesh, don't ya think your pearls of wisdom are perhaps just a tad over the line; lacking even a smattering of good taste and maturity?

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River, he won't understand all that- just tell him to shut up, works better IMO.

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You're probably right Chris. Any of us can "go negative" about anything or anybody on this board, but I believe it's better to keep things out of the gutter and reasonably rational. This chap is like PN, except without the stinging quarter-truths and funny pictures.

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The fact is that most people in South Oessetia see themselves as Russians- not Georgians- and have done so for the past 150 years. But in addition, there are maneuverings going on behind the scenes, just as there were before.

So, hell, if you can't have a REAL war because the military is stretched thin, how about cooking up an event? Just prod the Georgian President, give him an endless string of promises and utterances of support, point him in the direction of the Russian bear and tell him to go poke it in the snoot. Then backpeddle away from doing anything real while using it as a backdrop for your campaign.

I just hope that McCain doesn't get his publicity stunt confused with reality, like Bush did.

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It turns out that McCains chief foreign policy advisor, Randy Scheunemann, is not only Georgia's chief Washington lobbyist, he's also a Rumsfeld devotee, a neocon, a member of PNAC, and was ONE of the instigators of the invasion of Iraq

QUOTE: One of the most successful neocon groups was the U.S. Committee on NATO, directed by Bruce Jackson. Other board members included Randy Scheunemann, Julie Finley, and Gary Schmitt, who like Jackson have been tangled with three other organizations: the Project on Transitional Democracies, the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, and the Project for the New American Century. Both the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq and the Project on Transitional Democracies were PNAC spin-offs.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig4/barry-tom3.html

(This was written in 2004, so it's not new news or a convenient rewrite of history. All I did was google: Randy Scheunemann + PNAC.

So the McCain campaign is just another cover for the same neocons as before. It's beginning to look as if the necon strategy is to pick an easily manipulated idiot and ride him into the White House. Four more years... indeed!

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Who's zit, jeeesh, don't ya think your pearls of wisdom are perhaps just a tad over the line; lacking even a smattering of good taste and maturity?- River

River, he won't understand all that- just tell him to shut up, works better IMO-Chris

The BEST response to an out-and-out troll is simply to ignore them. They feed on your negative energy, they long for your irate response. Nothing makes 'em go away like no response at all. I know it's tough, but you... you're better and more mature than a troll, and you can withstand a troll's manipulations. Right?

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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Chrisisall: quod erat demonstrandum ("that which was to be demonstrated").

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