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Negatives; B.O. has big ears and likes hot sweaty man sex.

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Does this person, Whozit, ever contribute to discussions, or is he wholly enraptured with ears and homophobia?

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Does this person, Whozit, ever contribute to discussions, or is he wholly enraptured with ears and homophobia?

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Does this person, Whozit, ever contribute to discussions, or is he wholly enraptured with ears and homophobia?

--Anthony

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

MCCAIN -
Positives: Has stated vocal support for my 2nd ammendment rights.

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Originally posted by Kirkules:

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

MCCAIN -
Positives: Has stated vocal support for my 2nd ammendment rights.

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I'm a one issue voter when it comes to the Second Amendment. If a person doesn't believe in protecting my Constitutional rights, they are disqualified as far as I'm concerned.

"Barack Obama's Ten Point Plan to 'Change' the Second Amendment"

1. Ban use of firearms for home defense.

2. Pass Federal laws eliminating your Right -to Carry.

3. Ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.

4. Close down 90% of the gun shops in America.

5. Ban rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.

6. Increase federal taxes on guns and ammunition by 500%

7. RESTORE VOTING RIGHTS FOR FIVE MILLION CRIMINALS INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF USING A GUN TO COMMIT A VIOLENT CRIME.

8. Expand the Clinton semi-auto ban to include millions more firearms.

9. Mandate a government issued license to purchase a firearm.

10. Appoint judges to the U. S. Supreme Court and Federal judiciary who share his views on the Second Amendment.

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Originally posted by Kirkules:

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

MCCAIN -
Positives: Has stated vocal support for my 2nd ammendment rights.

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I'm a one issue voter when it comes to the Second Amendment. If a person doesn't believe in protecting my Constitutional rights, they are disqualified as far as I'm concerned.

"Barack Obama's Ten Point Plan to 'Change' the Second Amendment"

1. Ban use of firearms for home defense.

2. Pass Federal laws eliminating your Right -to Carry.

3. Ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.

4. Close down 90% of the gun shops in America.

5. Ban rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.

6. Increase federal taxes on guns and ammunition by 500%

7. RESTORE VOTING RIGHTS FOR FIVE MILLION CRIMINALS INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF USING A GUN TO COMMIT A VIOLENT CRIME.

8. Expand the Clinton semi-auto ban to include millions more firearms.

9. Mandate a government issued license to purchase a firearm.

10. Appoint judges to the U. S. Supreme Court and Federal judiciary who share his views on the Second Amendment.

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looks like a plan to me

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Originally posted by Kirkules:
So you were lying in the other thread when you said

"I have no problem with people owning guns responsibly. I DO have a problem with people who have no idea what it is they are citing for the affirmation of their right to own guns".

Typical gun grabbing liberal. But you forgot that your supposed to get your guy elected before you show your true colors. Not that you or Obama are fooling anyone with your lies.

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Originally posted by Kirkules:

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

MCCAIN -
Positives: Has stated vocal support for my 2nd ammendment rights.

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I'm a one issue voter when it comes to the Second Amendment. If a person doesn't believe in protecting my Constitutional rights, they are disqualified as far as I'm concerned.

"Barack Obama's Ten Point Plan to 'Change' the Second Amendment"

1. Ban use of firearms for home defense.

2. Pass Federal laws eliminating your Right -to Carry.

3. Ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.

4. Close down 90% of the gun shops in America.

5. Ban rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.

6. Increase federal taxes on guns and ammunition by 500%

7. RESTORE VOTING RIGHTS FOR FIVE MILLION CRIMINALS INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF USING A GUN TO COMMIT A VIOLENT CRIME.

8. Expand the Clinton semi-auto ban to include millions more firearms.

9. Mandate a government issued license to purchase a firearm.

10. Appoint judges to the U. S. Supreme Court and Federal judiciary who share his views on the Second Amendment.

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What would responsible gun ownership and use look like?

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Originally posted by Kirkules:

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

MCCAIN -
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I'm a one issue voter when it comes to the Second Amendment. If a person doesn't believe in protecting my Constitutional rights, they are disqualified as far as I'm concerned.

"Barack Obama's Ten Point Plan to 'Change' the Second Amendment"

1. Ban use of firearms for home defense.

2. Pass Federal laws eliminating your Right -to Carry.

3. Ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.

4. Close down 90% of the gun shops in America.

5. Ban rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.

6. Increase federal taxes on guns and ammunition by 500%

7. RESTORE VOTING RIGHTS FOR FIVE MILLION CRIMINALS INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF USING A GUN TO COMMIT A VIOLENT CRIME.

8. Expand the Clinton semi-auto ban to include millions more firearms.

9. Mandate a government issued license to purchase a firearm.

10. Appoint judges to the U. S. Supreme Court and Federal judiciary who share his views on the Second Amendment.

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I'd like to see the source for these allegations. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'd like some context.

You should also note that McCain and Lieberman put their names on an anti-gun bill that would have had the effect of doing most - if not all - of the things you're worried about Obama doing.

And you might note that earlier this year, an expanded version of the Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) was introduced into the U.S. House of Representatives - sponsored by four REPUBLICAN Congressmen.

Looks like gun enthusiasts may well be Screwed In '08.




Mike

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"In 1996 Obama filled out a candidate questionnaire in which he indicated full-throated support for a ban on 'The manufacture, sale and possession of handguns'".

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What would responsible gun ownership and use look like?

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Not buying illegal or illegally-modifed weapons from unscrupulous individuals.

Having proper training in gun use and safety.

Shooting at gun ranges. NOT shooting at road signs. :)

Keeping guns and ammo out of the hands of kids, at least without proper adult supervision.

Not drinking and shooting. Not doing drugs and shooting.

Not waving your guns around at a party.

Most of this is common-sense stuff. Do you ever wonder why they call it "common sense" when it seems so damn rare?



Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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"In 1996 Obama filled out a candidate questionnaire in which he indicated full-throated support for a ban on 'The manufacture, sale and possession of handguns'".

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So what? I fully and completely support a woman's right to have an abortion - doesn't mean I would have one.

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So what? I fully and completely support a woman's right to have an abortion - doesn't mean I would have one.

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I will just say stop trying in your obtuse way to put words in my mouth

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I will just say stop trying in your obtuse way to put words in my mouth

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That's the second time you've called me obtuse. What is this strange obsession you have with angles between 90 and 180 degrees. I would prefer you call me acute if you have to use your angle references.

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— see triangle illustration cof a leaf : rounded at the free end
2 a: lacking sharpness or quickness of sensibility or intellect : insensitive, stupid b: difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or expression

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

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"In 1996 Obama filled out a candidate questionnaire in which he indicated full-throated support for a ban on 'The manufacture, sale and possession of handguns'".

In 1999 while running for the US house seat he called for a "500 percent increase in taxes on firearms and ammunition.".

In 2003 Obama voted for a bill in the Illinois Senate which was a ban on "assault rifles".

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

MCCAIN -
Positives: Has stated vocal support for my 2nd ammendment rights.

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I'm a one issue voter when it comes to the Second Amendment. If a person doesn't believe in protecting my Constitutional rights, they are disqualified as far as I'm concerned.

"Barack Obama's Ten Point Plan to 'Change' the Second Amendment"

1. Ban use of firearms for home defense.

2. Pass Federal laws eliminating your Right -to Carry.

3. Ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.

4. Close down 90% of the gun shops in America.

5. Ban rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.

6. Increase federal taxes on guns and ammunition by 500%

7. RESTORE VOTING RIGHTS FOR FIVE MILLION CRIMINALS INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF USING A GUN TO COMMIT A VIOLENT CRIME.

8. Expand the Clinton semi-auto ban to include millions more firearms.

9. Mandate a government issued license to purchase a firearm.

10. Appoint judges to the U. S. Supreme Court and Federal judiciary who share his views on the Second Amendment.

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Anthony....You are not being honest. How can you possibly say that Obama & Palin have similar "inexperience." I guess you don't know that Sarah Palin has been a Governor, the most popular Governor in America (80% approval) for 2 years, and previously a Mayor for 10 year. That's 12 years of Executive experience. Does Obama have one minute of Executive experence? Huh? Nada, Zilch.

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What LEGISLATIVE experience does Palin have? None, nada, zilch, zero. She's supposed to take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, and there's no evidence she's ever even read the "goddam piece of paper."

How important is "executive" experience, anyway? Dubya had it. Does that make you feel better?

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Anthony....You are not being honest. How can you possibly say that Obama & Palin have similar "inexperience." I guess you don't know that Sarah Palin has been a Governor, the most popular Governor in America (80% approval) for 2 years, and previously a Mayor for 10 year. That's 12 years of Executive experience. Does Obama have one minute of Executive experence? Huh? Nada, Zilch.

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What LEGISLATIVE experience does Palin have? None, nada, zilch, zero. She's supposed to take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, and there's no evidence she's ever even read the "goddam piece of paper."

How important is "executive" experience, anyway? Dubya had it. Does that make you feel better?





Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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But you don't see a hue and cry to ban jigsaws, do you ?

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Future Mrs. Fillion, If you answered I missed it. What would responsible gun ownership and use look like?

Thanks,

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
What LEGISLATIVE experience does Palin have? None, nada, zilch, zero. She's supposed to take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, and there's no evidence she's ever even read the "goddam piece of paper."

How important is "executive" experience, anyway? Dubya had it. Does that make you feel better?

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I skippered a yacht once. I ran a bar. I've got a fair bit of executive experience in various places. Can I be VP?

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More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Sorry, I have more Foreign Policy experience than you so I get it. I mean I drove through Canada once and I have lived in Panama, Italy and England and Greece! Oh yeah and you being a foreigner and all!

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

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Oh yeah and you being a foreigner and all!

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Oh yeah and you being a foreigner and all!

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Ergo I have more Foreign policy experience, QED.

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More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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that's too logical!

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

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I had a dream last night I was cast into Hell by a jealous God
The Devil walked up and said you don't need no lightning rod
It hardly ever rains down here I can't recall the last storm
You aint gonna need that leather jacket either - it gets kinda warm
There's one way in and there's no way out looks like you're to stay
The place is a mess, it's overcrowded, more are coming in everyday.

I said ah man, wait a minute there's gotta be something wrong
I aint a bad guy; I just write these little songs
I always pay my union dues and don't stay in the passing lane
And he said what about all that whiskey and cocaine
I said well yeah but that's no reason to throw me in Hell
'Cause I didn't use the cocaine to get high, I just liked the way it smelled.

He said come on over here son, let me show you around
Over there's where we put the preachers, I never liked those clowns
They're always blaming me for everything wrong under the sun
It aint harder to do what's right, it's just maybe not as much fun
Then they walk around thinking they're better than me and you
Then they get caught in a motel room doing what they said not to do.

Now the murderers and the rapists they go in this firey lake
As well as most of the politicians and the cops on the take
And all the mothers that wait to get to KMart to spank their kids
Instead of showing how to do what's right, they just hit 'em for what they did
And all the daddy's who run off and abandon their daughters and sons
Oh anybody that hurts a child is gonna burn until it's done.

Everybody is down here, I said - who's up in Heaven with God and the Son
Oh some saints and mystics and students of metaphysics 101
People who care and share and love and try to do what's right
Beautiful old souls who read little stories to their babies every night
What you won't find up in Heaven are christian coalition right wing conservatives
Country program directors and Nashville record executives.

Now I said I've made some mistakes, but I'm not as bad as those guys
How can God do this to me or can't she sympathize
He said you're wrong about God being cruel and mean
Oh God is the most loving thing that's never been seen
I said hotshot tell me this which religion is the truest
He said they're all about the same, Buddha was not a Christian, but Jesus
woulda made a good buddhist.

Well, I thought about my future I didn't seem to have much of one
I looked around to leave but there was no place to run
I said I don't suppose I could go back and try living again
You know like reincarnation I hear that's the way it's always been
I can't answer that he said you're gonna have to wait for that response
But it's not any more unusual to be born twice than it is to be born once.

Well, it looked like I was gonna be stuck here as far as I could tell
I thought I might as well suck up you know what the hell
I said you know that song that Charlie Daniels did
About how you went down to Georgia and played fiddle against that kid
He said yeah it broke my heart but you know what are you gonna do
I said to tell you the truth I thought your solo was the better of the two.

Well, then I woke up and I was lying in my bed
I went upstairs and kissed my little boy on his sleeping head
I took this dream as a sign from God so I thought I'd better pray
I said don't ever speak to me directly and thanks anyway
Now so much has changed about me besides me just giving up red meat
Some get spiritual cause they see the light and some cause they feel the heat...

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Future Mrs. Fillion, If you answered I missed it. What would responsible gun ownership and use look like?

Thanks,

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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AnthonyT, Kwicko answered so well that I will just say DITTO!

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

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I guess I just have to ask the Republicans one question: Why do y'all hate Lincoln so much?

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I guess I just have to ask the Republicans one question: Why do y'all hate Lincoln so much?

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I see. So you’re saying that under Obama we’ll end up in a 4-year civil war – the bloodiest, most destructive war in American history?

Hmmm. I’ll pass.

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Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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I see. So you’re saying that under Obama we’ll end up in a 4-year civil war – the bloodiest, most destructive war in American history?

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