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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

I always feel like 'a crazy' when the issue of the Iranian nuclear program comes up. Am I the only one who doesn't think it's our business if they want to develop nuclear capability? Am I the only one who thinks we have no moral right to limit the technological advancements of other nations?

Am I also the only one who thinks Israel can take care of themselves?

Apparently the Dems and Repubs are unified on the idea of denying nuclear development to Iran, but I just can't agree with that stance.

--Anthony


"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Originally posted by Khyron:
Gino, McCain didn't criticize Obama for having that position, but for saying it "out loud". He'd do the same, and I'm not sure if it's necessarily wrong. Pakistan has gotten around $10 billion or something like that and still hasn't done a thing in the problem border regions except throw some grenades every now and again.

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He must have had some kind of emotional appeal for you.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
"Senator, you've said that you'd chase Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell - but apparently not to Pakistan."

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I think it was a tie on McCain's home turf, judging by snap polls, it was a win for Obama.

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I thought the strongest punch of the entire debate was the Spain thing.

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Originally posted by Kwicko: I also note for the record that only one nation in the history of the world has ever used nuclear weapons on another nation. So we don't exactly have a sterling claim to the moral high ground as regards nuclear weapons, do we?

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No, what you DO is get some stringers from Blackwater who wanna make a buck and kill some infidel(1) ragheads for glory, and form a shell company.

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And Isreal has over 200 nukes with splendid delivery systems, they can take care of themselves and probably will have to by the time our bungling intel catches on to anything. Never send white American spies to do an Arab/Isreali spy's job.

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Originally posted by Khyron:
Gino, McCain didn't criticize Obama for having that position, but for saying it "out loud". He'd do the same, and I'm not sure if it's necessarily wrong. Pakistan has gotten around $10 billion or something like that and still hasn't done a thing in the problem border regions except throw some grenades every now and again.

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"The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can "throw the rascals out" at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy. There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960's, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies (notably to its belief that England was an Atlantic rather than a European Power and must be allied, or even federated, with the United States and must remain isolated from Europe), but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known."
-Dr Carroll Quigley PhD, Tragedy and Hope, 1966

"As a teenager, I heard John Kennedy’s summons to citizenship. And then, as a student at Georgetown, I heard that call clarified by a professor named Carroll Quigley, who said to us that America was the greatest Nation in history because our people had always believed in two things–that tomorrow can be better than today and that every one of us has a personal moral responsibility to make it so."
-Jew Bill "Clinton" Blythe III (bastard Jewish Rockefeller), acceptance speech, Democratic National Convention, 1992

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Palin to Peres: I'm a longtime friend of Israel

Friendly encounter in US between Republican VP nominee, Israeli president

Ynet Israel News

JERUSALEM ISRAEL - President Shimon Peres met Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin Thursday and the two exchanged some warm words. Peres was on hand to deliver a speech at an international conference organized by former United States President Bill Clinton.

Upon meeting the Israeli president Palin told him she has wanted to meet him and get to know him for years. She added that the only flag in her office, aside from the American flag, is the Israeli flag, stressing that she wants Israelis to know that she's been a longtime friend of the Jewish state, and will remain such.

Peres also took the opportunity to briefly speak to Republican presidential hopeful John McCain, who referred to the Israeli president as a longtime friend.

www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-3602375%2C00.html

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Luciferian Mason Obama is Bush's cousin at homosexual Jewish Bohemian Grove 2008

Moloch.
an ancient Phoenician and Ammonite god, to whom children were sacrificed by burning.
-Webster's New World Dictionary

"And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones. And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name. And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not: Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people."
-Leviticus 20:1-5, Christian Bible KJV

"And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as did David his father. Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon."
-1 Kings 11:6-7, Christian Bible KJV

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ANGEL (V.O.)
Previously on Angel:

1 INT. SECRET CHAMBER - NIGHT
Angel walks through a dark hallway into a chamber.

LINDSEY (V.O.)
To be a Black Thorn is to the senior partner's instrument on Earth.

Cut to:

4b INT. SECRET CHAMBER - NIGHT
The lights go up in the room, and the robed demons remove their masks. Many of the demons Angel has encountered this season are there, including Archduke Sebassis, Cyvus Vail, Senator Brucker (AKA HILLARY CLINTON), and others.

ANGEL (V.O.)
I'm talking about killing every single member of the Black Thorn.

GUNN
We taking 'em all at once?

ANGEL
Can't. Circle of the Black Thorn is the most powerful group in this plane of existence. Together, they'd vaporize us, but separated, they're just demons.

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ANGEL SCRIPT FINAL EPISODE OF THE APOCALYPSE

Episode 22, Season 5
Title: "Not Fade Away"
Written by: Jeffrey Bell & Joss Whedon
Original Air Date: May 19th, 2004

Cut to:

20c INT. SENATOR BRUCKER'S (AKA HILLARY CLINTON), CAMPAIGN HEADQUARTERS - NIGHT
The Senator is talking on the phone in front of a large banner for her campaign.

ANGEL (V.O.)
You already know she's pure hellspawn, and she tends to surround herself with vampires.

Cut to:

25 INT. SENATOR BRUCKER'S CAMPAIGN HEADQUARTERS - NIGHT
The Senator is sitting at her desk, talking on the phone. Other workers in her office are keeping busy.

SENATOR
(talking on the phone)
I can't officially comment on that, but off the record, if Mr. Conley's recent confession is true, then he's a very sick man who needs professional help.
(turns to face away from the door)
One of the goals of my next term in Washington is stronger federal guidelines.

Gunn walks in, unseen by the Senator, but noticed by others who work in the office. One of the workers swings at Gunn, who ducks and punches back.

Cut to:

36 INT. SENATOR BRUCKER'S CAMPAIGN HEADQUARTERS - NIGHT
The fighting in the Senator's office can't go unnoticed at this point. Gunn has engaged nearly everyone else there, but the Senator remains on the phone, unfazed. She snaps her fingers at the one vampire who is still sitting at his desk computer instead of fighting off Gunn. The vampire goes for Gunn, but Gunn stakes him instantly.

SENATOR
(on the phone)
The families are protected against pedophiles and other undesirables. Even the United States government...

Gunn then turns his attention to the Senator as he reaches to grab the axe from his back and hurls it at the Senator's head. It lands in the middle of her forehead, cutting off her conversation in mid-sentence. She collapses to the floor, still holding the phone to her ear.

GUNN
(to the remaining vampires)
Looks like you boys are gonna need to find a new candidate.
(the vampires encircle Gunn, growling)
And you wonder why folks don't vote.

Gunn straightens his arms, unfurling the stakes he had hidden up his sleeves. He stakes the first one that attacks him, but has to fight off the others with more difficulty.

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Originally posted by MalBadInLatin:
"I was hoping McCain would fail so completely that he would throw himself on his sword. But he didn't, allowing pro McCain folks to rationlize all his appeals to emotion and fear."

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Originally posted by Rue:
He must have had some kind of emotional appeal for you.

I saw a tired old man with tired rhetorical tricks dodging questions and in the end resorting to 'when I got out of prison ...' and other tired old-man stories and ploys. I actually felt sorry for him at times, even as I despised his lies, ignorance and silly rhetoric.

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