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One good response to Mumbai attacks

POSTED BY: GEEZER
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 13:00
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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 3:30 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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MUMBAI, India (AP) - A Muslim graveyard has refused to bury nine gunmen who terrorized Mumbai over three days last week, leaving at least 172 people dead and wreaking havoc at some of its most famous landmarks.

The men are not true followers of the Islamic faith, according to the influential Muslim Jama Masjid Trust, which runs the 7.5-acre (three-hectare) Badakabrastan graveyard in downtown Mumbai.

"People who committed this heinous crime cannot be called Muslim," said Hanif Nalkhande, a trustee. "Islam does not permit this sort of barbaric crime."



http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=385&sid=1529548

May this be the start of a trend.



"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 3:39 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


THIS is the sort of hardline , real life consequences that real muslims can start doing to help deter nutcase radicals from murdering folks for Allah.






It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 4:56 AM

RIVERLOVE


How long do you think this guy will stay alive? He's got courage and a noble character, things not tolerable in the Muslim world, things that will always get you and your family slaughtered. I think there's a possibilty of India attacking Pakistan. That will be something to see.

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 5:01 AM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by Geezer:

May this be the start of a trend.




Amen Geezer, thanks for the item.


The hopeful Chrisisall

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 5:25 AM

AGENTROUKA


Excellent! Gestures, they matter.

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 5:31 AM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
How long do you think this guy will stay alive? He's got courage and a noble character, things not tolerable in the Muslim world, things that will always get you and your family slaughtered. I think there's a possibilty of India attacking Pakistan. That will be something to see.




Right. The entire muslim world hates courage and noble character. Like the entire Christian world hates gays and the separation of church and state. Extremists get all the publicity, yes, and this guy's actions are a step in the right direction toward changing that by REacting, BUT you cannot be so surface-oriented as to think that the loudest and most irrational voice is always representative of the whole?

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 5:47 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Wow, the sky must be fallin - I find myself wholeheartedly in agreement with Rappy for once.


I salute the guys stand, the Koran has some pretty harsh words for harming women, children and noncombatants - even specifically for hostage taking, much less killing those.

And it's up to joe ordinary Muslims to hold these bastards responsible for desecrating the belief they supposedly profess and respond accordingly.

May this be the start of a trend indeed.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 6:00 AM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
How long do you think this guy will stay alive? He's got courage and a noble character, things not tolerable in the Muslim world, things that will always get you and your family slaughtered. I think there's a possibilty of India attacking Pakistan. That will be something to see.




Right. The entire muslim world hates courage and noble character. Like the entire Christian world hates gays and the separation of church and state. Extremists get all the publicity, yes, and this guy's actions are a step in the right direction toward changing that by REacting, BUT you cannot be so surface-oriented as to think that the loudest and most irrational voice is always representative of the whole?


I live in the real world and see things as they are. It must be nice for you and others to live in a fantasy world designed around your naive beliefs about human nature. Do yourself a favor, don't ever talk to cops about the horrors they see every day. It may shatter your glass bubble. Better for you to continue to tiptoe thru the tulips.

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 6:36 AM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
How long do you think this guy will stay alive? He's got courage and a noble character, things not tolerable in the Muslim world, things that will always get you and your family slaughtered. I think there's a possibilty of India attacking Pakistan. That will be something to see.




Right. The entire muslim world hates courage and noble character. Like the entire Christian world hates gays and the separation of church and state. Extremists get all the publicity, yes, and this guy's actions are a step in the right direction toward changing that by REacting, BUT you cannot be so surface-oriented as to think that the loudest and most irrational voice is always representative of the whole?


I live in the real world and see things as they are. It must be nice for you and others to live in a fantasy world designed around your naive beliefs about human nature. Do yourself a favor, don't ever talk to cops about the horrors they see every day. It may shatter your glass bubble. Better for you to continue to tiptoe thru the tulips.




Right, I must have lived a magical life of unicorns and rainbows in order to hold these views. No, I haven't. I've experienced some real unpleasantness. I just don't let it lead me down a path of hiding behind pessimistic assumptions about entire groups. And cops are obviously the one measure of reality because they always get called when things go "right", correct?

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 6:48 AM

STORYMARK


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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Wow, the sky must be fallin - I find myself wholeheartedly in agreement with Rappy for once.




Wow. I was justing thinking the same. After just agreeing with Hero in another thread. Man, this week is off to a wierd start.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 7:21 AM

RIVERLOVE


Mourners Bury Israelis Tortured Before Mumbai Executions

"The condition of bodies recovered from the Nariman Building, which housed the Orthodox Chabad-Lubavitch retreat, horrified doctors, the Telegraph reported.

"I have seen so many dead bodies in my life, and was traumatized," a mortician told the Telegraph. "It was apparent that most of the dead were tortured. What shocked me were the telltale signs showing clearly how the hostages were executed in cold blood."

Some were found with their throats slit and others were executed in a line with a bullet to the forehead."

Yeah, just some misunderstood hooligans did this. Too bad they never read Obama's book or watched Oprah.


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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 7:25 AM

AGENTROUKA


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Originally posted by Riverlove:

Yeah, just some misunderstood hooligans did this. Too bad they never read Obama's book or watched Oprah.




Who ever implied misunderstood hooligans, please? I'm thoroughly confused where you get this assumption from.

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 8:16 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
How long do you think this guy will stay alive? He's got courage and a noble character, things not tolerable in the Muslim world, things that will always get you and your family slaughtered. I think there's a possibilty of India attacking Pakistan. That will be something to see.



See? And I'm attacked when I say that that's EXACTLY the way I feel about Christians, and how I see them - an entire religion composed only of religious wackos.

So, Riverlove, you'll agree that no one can disagree with my assessment of christianity, right? Because if that's how I see 'em, from here in the real world, and not the fantasy land of puppy-dogs and flowery gardens full of happy young christians, then that's the way it is. I see them as religious zealots intent on murder and world domination, and Sarah Palin agrees with me, saying that this war is a "task that is from god".

See how much easier the world is when you only deal in absolutes?

Mike

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 8:18 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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AuRaptor wrote:


May this be the start of a trend.



Hear, hear!

Thank you for posting this thread, 'Rap. We;re in complete agreement on this.

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 8:47 AM

RIVERLOVE


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Originally posted by Kwicko:
EXACTLY the way I feel about Christians, and how I see them - an entire religion composed only of religious wackos.

I see them as religious zealots intent on murder and world domination


We've got heathens a'plenty here. Maybe Shepherd Book should shoot you in the kneecaps. Bible's not too specific on those.

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 9:01 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
How long do you think this guy will stay alive?



It's not one guy. It's the major Muslim burial society in Mumbai. It appears all the other burial societies there will go along with them. These are mainstream, well-respected organizations in the Indian Muslim world, and their decisions carry a lot of weight.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 9:11 AM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
How long do you think this guy will stay alive?



It's not one guy. It's the major Muslim burial society in Mumbai. It appears all the other burial societies there will go along with them. These are mainstream, well-respected organizations in the Indian Muslim world, and their decisions carry a lot of weight.

"Keep the Shiny side up"


One can certainly see the great respect the Muslim Burial Society garners in the Muslim world. How can I get a franchise?

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 9:50 AM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
How long do you think this guy will stay alive?



It's not one guy. It's the major Muslim burial society in Mumbai. It appears all the other burial societies there will go along with them. These are mainstream, well-respected organizations in the Indian Muslim world, and their decisions carry a lot of weight.

"Keep the Shiny side up"


One can certainly see the great respect the Muslim Burial Society garners in the Muslim world. How can I get a franchise?




Are you mad at them because they defy your prejudices? That's the only thing I can think of that might motivate a negative response to this move, really.

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 10:12 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Yep, that's prettymuch it.

Pissed because they've been denied their usual halfass lame excuses.

A tactic, mind you, I've repeatedly stated that WE would do well in using ourselves against the bastards at hand.

-F

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 10:20 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
How long do you think this guy will stay alive? He's got courage and a noble character, things not tolerable in the Muslim world, things that will always get you and your family slaughtered. I think there's a possibilty of India attacking Pakistan. That will be something to see.



See? And I'm attacked when I say that that's EXACTLY the way I feel about Christians, and how I see them - an entire religion composed only of religious wackos.




Now, I have many a problems with the hard-core Christian fundamentalists, but lumping them all together seems a wee bit nutso.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 1:00 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Sorry, Mark, but as Riverlove said, I live in the REAL WORLD, not in fantasyland. And what I see are powermad christian zealots out for blood. And they're ALL that way; why can't you see that? I mean, RL sees it so clearly in Islam; why can't the rest of you see that your own religion is exactly the same, and bent on dealing death to anyone who doesn't conform?

And I had really hoped you could recognize broad satire when it was posted, but alas, maybe not...

Given the turn the Assault Weapon thread has taken, I suppose I could just tell you to go rub your bible until you feel better.

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