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Lee Atwater hasn't a damn thing to do w/ how Liberal the media is these days. Nice try.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:46 AM

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citizen -

Is the perpetual game you play, where you invert the views of others and then try to paint them as being 180 degrees opposite of what they are some disorder you exhibit offline too, or is it strictly limited to this forum?

Either way, it's an act that's over worn and childish.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:57 AM

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citizen -

Is the perpetual game you play, where you invert the views of others and then try to paint them as being 180 degrees opposite of what they are some disorder you exhibit offline too, or is it strictly limited to this forum?

Either way, it's an act that's over worn and childish.

Nope. But the game you play is where you let your sociopathic mask slip, showing us all how much of an evil child murder advocating nazi you are, then try to impotently attack anyone who happens to notice.

You said you wanted children murdered. You can't weasel your slimy way out of that one. I'm quoting you, fully and in context, saying you believe children should be murdered. That's a stone around your neck, not mine.

AUReichsführer advocates child murder:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

I was reading in the paper today about this dwarf that got pickpocketed. How could anyone stoop so low?

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Sunday, March 22, 2009 9:34 AM

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citizen

Just so we're clear, you're 100% fine and in favor of wee little Muslim children, decked out in their Play-School bomber vest, going to murder innocent men, women and other children, ( clearly , you hate the Jews THAT much ) but should anyone DARE to point out that in order to keep from being blown up, the unthinkable might have to be done in the name of self defense, then that makes that person a " sociopath " who is an nazi that supports murdering children.

Sure, the society that PRODUCES blood thirsty zealots who strap bombs on their babies is perfectly sane, but those who want to defend against them are the REAL problem.

I NEVER said I wanted children murdered, you fucking bastard. But deal w/ the reality of what Hamas is doing, and then tell us, what the FUCK you would you do ?

Lemmie guess, bake them all cookies and ask them over for tea and dumplings ?

There's no stone around my neck. If that's the depth at which the Pals are going to sink, I guarantee you're not going to sit there and say.. " Oh, well since it's a child underneath that bomb vest, I'd better not do anything "

You'd shoot the bomber before they had a chance to blow up a crowded restaurant, bus or market, and you'd not give a damn how old the bomber was. They're dead anyways, in that situation, best to only limit the deaths to 1, and not many, many more innocent lives.
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"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Sunday, March 22, 2009 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
citizen

Just so we're clear, you're 100% fine and in favor of wee little Muslim children, decked out in their Play-School bomber vest, going to murder innocent men, women and other children, ( clearly , you hate the Jews THAT much ) but should anyone DARE to point out that in order to keep from being blown up, the unthinkable might have to be done in the name of self defense, then that makes that person a " sociopath " who is an nazi that supports murdering children.

No. I'm just also not in favour of murdering children, no matter who's children they are. You said you wanted to kill an innocent baby you sick child murdering fuck.

Saying I hate Jews because I don't like the idea of murdering innocent children based on what clothes their parents put in? You really are one deluded fucking monster.

You know, you're not helping your case saying "the unthinkable might have to be done in self-defence", since that's also EXACTLY how Heinrich Himmler justified killing children. I'm not saying you're a nazi that supports child murder, YOU ARE. YOUR WORDS were, and I quote:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

YOU said that Palestinian children should be murdered. YOUR words closely mirror those spoken by the head of the Nazi SS and Gestapo. YOU are saying you are a Nazi Child Murderer, by advocating child murder using the same flimsy monstrous excuses and reasoning the fucking Nazi's used you despicable monster.

Call me a Jew hater all you want, but there's nothing to support that assertion. It's not a dichotomy you stupid fucking monster, you don't either want to murder fucking innocent children or you hate Jews, you brain dead moron. In what sort of thought process can you possibly get to the point where you think you either support Nazi child murderers, or you hate Jews. You're one screwed up and sick little puppy.

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I NEVER said I wanted children murdered, you fucking bastard. But deal w/ the reality of what Hamas is doing, and then tell us, what the FUCK you would you do ?

Fuck you you lying sack of Nazi shit. Never said you wanted children murdered? NEVER?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

I suppose by "take care of both of them" you meant give them free healthcare right, you lying sick fuck?

Don't play this "Oh you wouldn't shoot the kid before they blew up a restaurant" bullshit. You were talking about murdering a mother and child before they became a threat, not when they were one. You were talking about a baby, to stop it becoming a terrorist later. You backed it up with pictures of toddlers with TOY fucking guns you lunatic. Because it's so weird for children to play with toy guns? Well, like I've never seen that outside of Gaza! I suppose if I can find pictures of American children playing with toy guns, you'll be 100% behind executing American children right?

I'm going to hang your words around your neck so everyone knows what kind of a person you really are.

AURaptor advocates child murder:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

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Sunday, March 22, 2009 4:07 PM

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citizen

How's it feel to be so wrong, so often, knowing you're wrong, but having such a shallow sense of self worth, that you can't come to admit it?

How is this fun for you, in the least ? You know i'm not a racist, I don't "advocate " child murder, and here you go, like a blithering idiot that you are, making shit up just so you can go foaming at the mouth and talking shit over the internet, like you can / would do a damn thing about it anyways.

We both know you won't, so what's the point?

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Sunday, March 22, 2009 4:16 PM

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YOUR words closely mirror those spoken by the head of the Nazi SS and Gestapo

No,they don't. None of my words are anywhere near what NAZIS said.

For you to claim that, you'd have to equate the Jews of 1930 Germany to the Pals of present day.

For you to claim that, the Jews of 1930 Germany would have to be equal to the murder-death-cult of the Pals of present day, and everyone knows that's just flat out absurd.

You and Pirate News should start dating ( if you're not already )

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 12:13 AM

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Auraptor parrots the murderous Genocidal opinion of his hero Heinrich Himmler.

Humanity: You're doing it wrong.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

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Quote of Heinrich Himmler (Reichsführer-SS):
We were asked: what about the children? I made up my mind to find a clear solution here too. You see, I did not feel I had a right to exterminate the men while allowing the children to grow up and take revenge upon our sons and grandsons. We had to reach the difficult decision of making this nation vanish from the face of the earth.

AURaptor advocates child murder:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 4:00 AM

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Repeating a lie over and over, as you've done - again, doesn't make it suddenly come true.

Man, you're such a tool.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 4:11 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Rapo- your meaning is quite clear: better to 'take care of" innocent children before they grow up to be a problem. Protesting your innocence over and over doesn't make it true.

A wise man might take this as an opportunity to learn- about himself, his assumptions and beliefs, if nothing else. A belief, for example that beliefs are inherited and not amenable to change... which makes killing a requirement. Take this opportunity to learn about your right-wing beliefs, which you have turned into a religion as much as any bible-thumper.

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 4:26 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Repeating a lie over and over, as you've done - again, doesn't make it suddenly come true.

Saying "It's not true" doesn't make this quote any less accurate or true.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

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Quote of Heinrich Himmler (Reichsführer-SS):
We were asked: what about the children? I made up my mind to find a clear solution here too. You see, I did not feel I had a right to exterminate the men while allowing the children to grow up and take revenge upon our sons and grandsons. We had to reach the difficult decision of making this nation vanish from the face of the earth.

Man, you're such a child murdering Nazi tool.

AURaptor advocates child murder:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 4:35 AM

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Sig,

Your comments would ring true, normally, except for one MAJOR problem. While yes, the children ARE innocent, they're being brain washed ( thus my child abuse remark ) by their parents to not only hate the Jews, but to so loath the existance of Jews that they'd willfully blow themselves and as many innocnet men, women and children to pieces.

The Palestinians had an oppourtunity, a few yrs ago, to establish their own state. Virtually all their demands were met, and instead, they declined the offer. They'd rather live in squalor, with out their own country, than to have to live side by side w/ the Jewish people. So, I ask you, what would happen to that culture, which seeks the annihilation of the Jews, if tomorrow, they could have their own Palestinian state ? You think all those generations of brain washing and hate indoctrination would simply vanish ?

You folks HAVE to stop w/ the knee jerk reactions and THINK about what is being said by others before you post. I suppose I make the error in thinking everyone understands things at least as well as I do.*( Or at the very least, taken time to educate themselves beyond what they see on the nightly news ) My mistake.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 4:42 AM

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citizen - you could not be more wrong. That's the truth, no matter how hard you try to spin it. Waste as much time on here as you like, cut/paste paragraphs until your heart's content, but none of that will change 1 iota of fact.

You're wrong. Plain and simple.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 4:56 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
citizen - you could not be more wrong. That's the truth, no matter how hard you try to spin it. Waste as much time on here as you like, cut/paste paragraphs until your heart's content, but none of that will change 1 iota of fact.

AURaptor's statements, unspun and completely unedited:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

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Quote of Heinrich Himmler (Reichsführer-SS):
We were asked: what about the children? I made up my mind to find a clear solution here too. You see, I did not feel I had a right to exterminate the men while allowing the children to grow up and take revenge upon our sons and grandsons. We had to reach the difficult decision of making this nation vanish from the face of the earth.

The full unblemished truth, the real facts, not the RapFacts. That's the truth, no matter how hard you try to spin it.

AURaptor advocates child murder:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 5:07 AM

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I refuse to believe that the concept of 'context' is foreign to you, you fuzzy little foreigner.

Maybe some day it'll come to you. Maybe.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 5:20 AM

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I refuse to believe that the concept of 'context' is foreign to you, you fuzzy little foreigner.

The context of the thread was AUReichsführer agreeing with a T-Shirt espousing what a good idea murdering pregnant women is (one shot two kills). How he could possibly think that would put his comments in a better light, is something only he can tell.

AURaptor's statements, unspun and completely unedited, and in the full context with no posting omissions:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

Quote:
Quote of Heinrich Himmler (Reichsführer-SS):
We were asked: what about the children? I made up my mind to find a clear solution here too. You see, I did not feel I had a right to exterminate the men while allowing the children to grow up and take revenge upon our sons and grandsons. We had to reach the difficult decision of making this nation vanish from the face of the earth.

The full unblemished truth, the real facts, not the RapFacts. That's the truth, no matter how hard you try to spin it.

AURaptor advocates child murder:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 5:29 AM

AGENTROUKA

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I refuse to believe that the concept of 'context' is foreign to you, you fuzzy little foreigner.

But isn't it that even in the context of a hate-filled society the words you are quoted as saying imply the killing of an infant because of what it might become?

I don't think that preventative genocide is really what you'd propose as a solution to a hate-supporting society, right? Your words and the justifications you post just make it seem that way.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 5:50 AM

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Agent..... not 'might' , but IS. Pal mothers are , today, and have been, programing their little cherubs into blind, seething seeds of hatred and death.

They dress them up in mock bomb vest, arm them w/ little plastic guns and toy grenades, all for the sole intent on murdering Jews. Not to go to war, but to simply murder members of another race, simple because they are who they are.

As was so well stated in by King Theoden...

" What can men do against such reckless hate? "

It's not just a line from a movie, but a serious question. For most, it seems that ignoring the hatred will make it go away. I'm not so sure, myself, as it's still around, after so many decades.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 5:57 AM

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citizen,

Your completely edited, out of context quotes by me do nothing but serve to perpetuate the hatred you claim you want to fight against. This crying wolf on your part, accusing those innocent of hating for empty racist, nationalistic or religious reasons does such a disservice to the cause you're feigning to support.

You're nothing but a child, a prepubescent troll who has no concept of morality or decency. All you're interested in is posting b.s. on the internet and sniggering like a school girl every time you get a reply.

The more you reply in such manner, the more and more sad a character you become. If that's even possible. But it shows that not only do you have no life, that you'd feign caring about any damn topic for the sake of insulting strangers on the internet.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 5:57 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:

AURaptor advocates child murder:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

Hey- that's kind of sick! Even for HIM!

The cringing Chrisisall

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Monday, March 23, 2009 5:59 AM

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You see nothing in the least bit sick about suicide wear for babies, yet I'm the one who you feel has the problem?

Wow.

I mean, in all honesty. wow.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 6:22 AM

AGENTROUKA

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Agent..... not 'might' , but IS. Pal mothers are , today, and have been, programing their little cherubs into blind, seething seeds of hatred and death.

They dress them up in mock bomb vest, arm them w/ little plastic guns and toy grenades, all for the sole intent on murdering Jews. Not to go to war, but to simply murder members of another race, simple because they are who they are.

But brainwashing or not, an infant or toddler is hardly capable of hate. They can be used as weapons - maybe - as early as they can walk, but that doesn't make them hateful until their age at least supports the understanding of such concepts.

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As was so well stated in by King Theoden...

" What can men do against such reckless hate? "

It's not just a line from a movie, but a serious question. For most, it seems that ignoring the hatred will make it go away. I'm not so sure, myself, as it's still around, after so many decades.

May I ask you as a direct question, then, whether the appearance you give (of proposing preventative genocide of a hate-filled society, infants and all) is congruent with your actual position or whether this is a misconception based on an unfortunate quote? I honestly can't place your position based on your reply.

I think it's the latter but I'd surly love to hear you say it, and that'd mark the end of my involvement in this thread.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 6:26 AM

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You see nothing in the least bit sick about suicide wear for babies, yet I'm the one who you feel has the problem?

To sentence a child who's done nothing wrong yet to death is just somewhat unsettling is all.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, March 23, 2009 6:58 AM

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Agent,

The topic this thread has taken, which has migrated from another thread, is despicable. We can agree on that.

At the heart of the issue, were t-shirts "some" Israeli MILITARY wore, or maybe they were just for SALE, not intended for the general public. Any military is going to have its own subculture, a part from the general population. ( A line which I think is attributed to a sniper school " You can run, but you'll just die tired " has no place in a civil society, but in context, is more understood and accepted in a military environment. So it is w/ these t-shirts. We'll never have to face what those in the military are trained to encounter , or at least it's hoped none of us will, so I don't know if those vast majority of civilians ever try to understand or take the time to see things from that view point.

We're to be reminded that the purposes of an army is to kill people and break things. As horrific and brutal as it sounds, that's what they do, and that's what those in the military have to come to terms with, every single day. If they DON'T, then they're liable to end up dead, as will their buddies and possibly a whole lot of folks that depend on them doing their job.

Anyway, that's the context of which I see the whole issue. Such messages , imo, are completely out of place in any civil society, and the mere fact so many get offended , I suppose , is a good sign.

If , however, some would take the time to see things from a different point of view, but still stay offended, we might understand ( though not approve ) a bit more.

I got nothing else to say on the matter. (except that citizen is still wrong. Very wrong )

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 7:02 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You see nothing in the least bit sick about suicide wear for babies, yet I'm the one who you feel has the problem?

To sentence a child who's done nothing wrong yet to death is just somewhat unsettling is all.

The laughing Chrisisall

(replying to this specific issue )

It should be upsetting as to who does the sentencing, the mother , or someone forced into that situation.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 7:31 AM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Agent..... not 'might' , but IS. Pal mothers are , today, and have been, programing their little cherubs into blind, seething seeds of hatred and death.

Who the hell do they think they are, REPUBLICANS?!

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They dress them up in mock bomb vest, arm them w/ little plastic guns and toy grenades, all for the sole intent on murdering Jews. Not to go to war, but to simply murder members of another race, simple because they are who they are.

I take it you never once played Cowboys & Indians as a child...

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

The "On Fire" Economy -
The Dow closed at 10,587.60 on January 20, 2001, the day GW Bush took office. Eight years later, it closed below 8000 on the day he left office - a net loss of 25%. That's what conservatives call an economic "success".

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Monday, March 23, 2009 7:35 AM

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AuCoward,

Your completely unedited, out of context quotes by you do nothing but serve to perpetuate the hatred you claim. This crying "terrorist!" on your part, accusing all Muslims of hating for empty racist, nationalistic or religious reasons does such a disservice to the cause you're feigning to support.

You're nothing but a child, a prepubescent troll who has no concept of morality or decency. All you're interested in is posting b.s. on the internet and sniggering like a school girl every time you get a reply.

The more you reply in such manner, the more and more sad a character you become. If that's even possible. But it shows that not only do you have no life, that you'd feign caring about any damn topic for the sake of insulting strangers on the internet.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. And -- so why would I care about that? I love the guy, and I think he's gonna be great. But -- I love the fact that so many people are filling them out because the game is growing so much. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

There. Fixed that for ya.

Mike

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Monday, March 23, 2009 7:39 AM

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It should be upsetting as to who does the sentencing, the mother , or someone forced into that situation.

Are you saying we are forced to consider killing children?

Operative much?

The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, March 23, 2009 7:44 AM

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kwickie, cowboys and indians?

Wow. I never took you to be that naive, but holy shit, that frankly is stunning in its stupidity and ignorance.

I got nothing to add, I'm so stunned.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 7:46 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

It should be upsetting as to who does the sentencing, the mother , or someone forced into that situation.

Are you saying we are forced to consider killing children?

Operative much?

The laughing Chrisisall

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The topic this thread has taken, which has migrated from another thread, is despicable. We can agree on that.

At the heart of the issue, were t-shirts "some" Israeli MILITARY wore, or maybe they were just for SALE, not intended for the general public. Any military is going to have its own subculture, a part from the general population. ( A line which I think is attributed to a sniper school " You can run, but you'll just die tired " has no place in a civil society, but in context, is more understood and accepted in a military environment. So it is w/ these t-shirts. We'll never have to face what those in the military are trained to encounter , or at least it's hoped none of us will, so I don't know if those vast majority of civilians ever try to understand or take the time to see things from that view point.

We're to be reminded that the purposes of an army is to kill people and break things. As horrific and brutal as it sounds, that's what they do, and that's what those in the military have to come to terms with, every single day. If they DON'T, then they're liable to end up dead, as will their buddies and possibly a whole lot of folks that depend on them doing their job.

Anyway, that's the context of which I see the whole issue. Such messages , imo, are completely out of place in any civil society, and the mere fact so many get offended , I suppose , is a good sign.

If , however, some would take the time to see things from a different point of view, but still stay offended, we might understand ( though not approve ) a bit more.

I got nothing else to say on the matter. (except that citizen is still wrong. Very wrong )

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Monday, March 23, 2009 7:49 AM

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Monday, March 23, 2009 7:49 AM

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Are you saying we are forced to consider killing children? Operative much?

Ditto-heads... those who act without any self-reflection whatsoever.... will say

BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT!

That includes Finn, Geezer, and rapo. It's their constant refrain. How they justify doing EXACTLY what their enemies do, and still claim moral high ground.

News-flash for you guys: Its NOT different. Killing is killing, torture is torture, whether in the name of Allah or freedom or capitalism or communism.

The only justification I can see for killing is self-defense or the immediate defense of others. Even then, action will be- SHOULD BE- judged by history as to whether more lives were saved than wasted. Anything else is just so much bullshit.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 7:56 AM

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We're to be reminded that the purposes of an army is to kill people and break things.

So, that's a yes then.

You are an Operative.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, March 23, 2009 7:58 AM

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The only justification I can see for killing is self-defense or the immediate defense of others.

Or busting a cap in every mother***ker's face that looks at you wrong to pre-empt a conflict.
You forgot that one.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 8:06 AM

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We're to be reminded that the purposes of an army is to kill people and break things.
So, that's a yes then.

You are an Operative.

The laughing Chrisisall

Didn't fathom how much a Kucinich moon bat you were.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 8:07 AM

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citizen,

Your completely edited, out of context quotes by me do nothing but serve to perpetuate the hatred you claim you want to fight against. This crying wolf on your part, accusing those innocent of hating for empty racist, nationalistic or religious reasons does such a disservice to the cause you're feigning to support.

Not edited in the slightest. The only editing was to remove your signature. You probably should have changed your original post before making this accusation, then it would have been my word against yours. Unfortunately you were so stupid you've left your words as is, while still trying to claim I edited them. (I suspect now is a bit late though).

Your crazed flailing reeks of the desperation of a Nazi whose mask has slipped, letting in the cold light of day. Which, predictably, is exactly what has happened.

AURaptor advocates child murder:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 8:07 AM

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kwickie, cowboys and indians?

Wow. I never took you to be that naive, but holy shit, that frankly is stunning in its stupidity and ignorance.

I got nothing to add, I'm so stunned.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

Maybe you can explain it all to us, then. How is it different? How is a Palestinian kid playing at being a jihadi or freedom fighter radically different from American kids playing cowboys and indians? Did we *not* kill the Indians just because of their race, because they were "different"?

Or are you just too ignorant to see the parallels?

And your little bit about "the purposes of an army is to kill people" simply proves that you have no concept of what the REAL purpose of an army is. Look into the legalities of various types of rifle bullets, and talk to people who have actually been in the army, and you'll quickly realize that a soldier's REAL objective is to take ground and hold it, preferably by WOUNDING the enemy, not killing him. A wounded man takes two or more soldiers out of battle, because he has to be cared for, tended to, and transported. A dead man only removes one person from battle.

Didn't you ever wonder why rifle rounds like hollowpoints and "dum-dum" or "tumbler" rounds were outlawed in warfare? Because they are designed primarily to kill, while a full-metal-jacketed round is designed to go through, leaving a fairly horrific (but fairly clean) hole through a soldier, thus removing him from battle without necessarily killing him.

It harkens back to the days when war was seen as a bit of a gentleman's game.

Look it up.

Mike

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Monday, March 23, 2009 8:14 AM

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Didn't fathom

Sad, foolish, bipedal machine.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, March 23, 2009 8:15 AM

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May I ask you as a direct question, then, whether the appearance you give (of proposing preventative genocide of a hate-filled society, infants and all) is congruent with your actual position or whether this is a misconception based on an unfortunate quote? I honestly can't place your position based on your reply.

AuCoward has never needed a valid reason to advocate the murder of Palestinians. Any reason to kill someone darker than him is a good reason, in his mind.

Mind you, he'll never sign up, never volunteer to DO any of the killing. His place is on the sidelines of history, being the happy cheerleader for thugs and murderers.

Mike

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Monday, March 23, 2009 8:18 AM

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He screams against Hamas because they hate the Jews and want to kill them.

Then he supports Israeli soldiers having a "sub-culture" where they reveal in hating Palestinians and killing them.

Because that's like, totally different. Because they're like, an army. And an army is supposed to kill people, but when Hamas does the exact same thing (but only a third effectively) that's like really bad man.

Not that that is in any way a double standard.

The problem with the Israelis and the Palestinians is: They're too damn alike. They're the neighbours that don't get on because of some initial slight blown out of all proportion that neither can really remember; if they'd drop the escalating campaigns they'd find out they really actually quite like each other. The reason they're so murderously opposed is because they're so damn alike.

AURaptor advocates child murder:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 8:27 AM

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kwickie, i do apologize.

You ARE that naive. I had no idea.

The U.S. military does not teach how to " wound " its enemy. The message is clear. Kill him, or be killed. Sure, some PC crap might have been circulated around the Pentagon and for public consumption, but go to Paris Island, and you'll see they're not training to 'wound'. There are no artillery shells that 'wound' other tanks. They pierce the armor, and often .... wait a minute.... you ARE pulling my leg! No one is THAT stupid !! ha ha...good one. Ya got me.

Now your whole silly 'cowboys and indians' silliness makes so much more sense!

Funny guy, you.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 8:28 AM

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Any reason to kill someone darker than him is a good reason, in his mind.

I believe he said he's culturally prejudiced, as opposed to racially.
That makes it nicer.

If 1/2% of a culture hates you, that culture is fair game. As long as it's a bad culture. And foreign-y.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, March 23, 2009 8:39 AM

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This is what you support.

The hatred you cling to is beyond measure. Someone has to stand up for reason and justice. Count me as one of them. The good guys.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 9:28 AM

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The U.S. military does not teach how to " wound " its enemy. The message is clear. Kill him, or be killed. Sure, some PC crap might have been circulated around the Pentagon and for public consumption, but go to Paris Island, and you'll see they're not training to 'wound'. There are no artillery shells that 'wound' other tanks. They pierce the armor, and often .... wait a minute.... you ARE pulling my leg! No one is THAT stupid !! ha ha...good one. Ya got me.

Heh, AURaptor's closest contact with the military is that Rambo marthon he watched, and he turns up here chatting about "military docterine", refuting Kwicko's entirely correct statements, with half wit idiotic statements. Now, THATS funny.

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This is what you support.

This is an entirely incorrect statement. NO ONE here has supported the actions of Hamas, they've opposed YOUR gleeful delight in child murder.

YOU however have come out in direct support of Israel, and everything it does. As such, by your own words, you support this:
This image shows Israeli children signing their name and "With love from" on bombs destined to be dropped on Palestinians. IF YOU were consistent you'd be jabbering about executing Israeli children, but you're hatred is only directed at Arab "towel heads" (his own term).

Some images of the people AURaptor supports "dealing with":

Nothing like a massacre to give AURaptor a hard on:

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Someone has to stand up for reason and justice. Count me as one of them. The good guys.

I'm sure we'll count you among those you emulate that came before you:

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Adolf Hitler (1936):
I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work.

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Adolf Hitler speech before the Reichstag about Jews and international "warmongers," 4 May 1941:
But he who dares to use the word "God" for such devilish activity blasphemes against Providence and, according to our belief, he cannot end except in destruction.

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Adolf Hitler (1945):
Providence shows no mercy to weak nations, but recognizes the right of existence-only of sound and strong nations. …

This Jewish bolshevist annihilation of nations and its western European and American procurers can be met only in one way: by using every ounce of strength with the extreme fanaticism and stubborn steadfastness that merciful God gives to men in hard times for the defense of their own lives. …

We have suffered so much that it only steels us to fanatical resolve to hate Our enemies a thousand times more and to regard them for what they are destroyers of an eternal culture and annihilators of humanity. Out of this bate a holy will is born to oppose these destroyers of our existence with all the strength that God has given us and to crush them in the end. During its 2,000-year history our people has survived so many terrible times that we have no doubt that we will also master our present plight.

AURaptor advocates child murder:

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 12:42 PM

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The U.S. military does not teach how to " wound " its enemy. The message is clear. Kill him, or be killed. Sure, some PC crap might have been circulated around the Pentagon and for public consumption, but go to Paris Island, and you'll see they're not training to 'wound'. There are no artillery shells that 'wound' other tanks. They pierce the armor, and often .... wait a minute.... you ARE pulling my leg! No one is THAT stupid !! ha ha...good one. Ya got me.

Go to Parris Island (correct spelling), and you'll see they're not training the U.S. Army for anything. That's a Marine Corps training base.

Supposedly we were discussing the purpose of the ARMY, not the marines...

And you are correct - artillery shells don't "wound" tanks - that's why I referred quite specifically to RIFLE ROUNDS. Did you not notice that? A rifle round isn't going to "wound" a tank, either - it will bounce right off.

Maybe you should look into the Stoner series of weapons (M16 family) and see what you can dig up on them. Ever wonder why our troops are using basically a .22 bullet in their main battle rifle, when practically every other military is using 7.62mm (or 30 caliber)? It's because it's more likely to wound, less likely to kill.

Ask some of the soldiers coming home from Iraq; they WANT a round that will kill better, but that's not the goal. After all, as you yourself can attest, you can't torture a dead terrorist, right?

Mike

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Monday, March 23, 2009 1:19 PM

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I said U.S " MILITARY", not "Army" ( as if that really matters - at all ) And to point out the absurdity of you claim of a army that "wounds", I specifically made mention of the armor piercing artillery round.

Other things not built to merely 'wound'....
Aircraft carriers
Cruise missiles
ICBMs
Abrams A-1 Tank
F - ANYTHING that flies
B - ANYTHING that flies and bombs

And the latest in line of Howitzers , the M777

It can hurl a 100lb round at 3x the speed of sound for 15 + miles.

" It's merely a flesh wound! "

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Ever wonder why our troops are using basically a .22 bullet in their main battle rifle, when practically every other military is using 7.62mm (or 30 caliber)? It's because it's more likely to wound, less likely to kill.

Gee, I dunno, might have something to do w/ fighting in and around heavily populated areas, and they want to minimize the risk of civilian deaths ,and a smaller bullet might be about the only way that can be achieved in a combat situation ?

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 1:58 PM

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Gee, I dunno, might have something to do w/ fighting in and around heavily populated areas, and they want to minimize the risk of civilian deaths ,and a smaller bullet might be about the only way that can be achieved in a combat situation ?

I didn't realize Vietnam was such a heavily populated urban area...

Or did you forget that the M16 came into service there?

Mike

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Monday, March 23, 2009 2:10 PM

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Iraq, not Vietnam, numb nutz

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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