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The Seven Minutes
Monday, July 12, 2004 10:17 AM
HKCAVALIER
Monday, July 12, 2004 10:27 AM
SERGEANTX
Monday, July 12, 2004 10:36 AM
BARNSTORMER
Monday, July 12, 2004 10:42 AM
EMBERS
Quote:Originally posted by SergeantX: Did anyone else have this reaction? SergeantX
Monday, July 12, 2004 10:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BarnStormer: HK If you really believe that, I think your in need of a serious reality check.
Monday, July 12, 2004 10:52 AM
BLUESUNWORSHIPPER
THATWEIRDGIRL
Monday, July 12, 2004 10:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SergeantX: I saw the movie and I'm a rabid Bush administration hater, but I had the same reaction to the protracted focus on him waiting. I felt sympathy for the man. I wonder if that's not backfired on Moore a little. Did anyone else have this reaction? SergeantX
Monday, July 12, 2004 11:08 AM
Monday, July 12, 2004 11:22 AM
JCKNIFE
Monday, July 12, 2004 11:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BlueSunWorshipper: Nope. I'd have to say he looked like a deer caught in the headlights. He had no clue what to do. The man's not a leader, he's a robot. A freakin' Republican android. He was probably waiting around to see if his daddy would call and tell him what to do. Considering that he made the decision to go to war in Iraq, I assume he got that call. Weapons of Mass Destruction? We don't need no Weapons of Mass Destruction. We don't need no steenkeeng Weapons of Mass Destruction. - T
Monday, July 12, 2004 11:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by thatweirdgirl: No clue what to do. Darn right! What do you you do in that situation? huh? You're sitting in front of a classroom of hungry kids and some guy in black leans over and says, "People are dead. Thousands of them. There are planes flying around that may just take out the nation. I'll give you a minute to take that in and then I have orders to get you in the air and safe. okay. What would you like me to do first?" I'm a reaction person, so I would have jumped up and screamed maybe tried to hurt myself or someone else. I would be mad. I'd want to take some kind of action. But would that be the right thing to do? Would I be cristised for attacking people? Should we shoot down all the planes currently in the air just in case? Should I ignore this and stay with the kids? Should we return to the white House and face the possibilty of an attack? i mean, what do you do? i am not a big Bush fan, but I feel for people that are in insane situations, and that was one insane situation. www.thatweirdgirl.com
Monday, July 12, 2004 11:32 AM
Monday, July 12, 2004 11:36 AM
CALHOUN
Monday, July 12, 2004 11:41 AM
TIGER
Quote:Originally posted by HKCAVALIER: ...it stands to reason at the very least that the members of the Secret Service guarding the President that morning knew ahead of time the extent of the attacks. They knew the terrorists posed no threat to the President down in Florida. So, somebody briefed them, somebody knew.
Quote:Originally posted by BarnStormer: If you really believe that, I think your in need of a serious reality check.
Monday, July 12, 2004 11:44 AM
Monday, July 12, 2004 12:02 PM
Monday, July 12, 2004 12:18 PM
SGTGUMP
Monday, July 12, 2004 12:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by BlueSunWorshipper: This is the most corrupt administration on record, with the worst job performance in the history of American Democracy.
Monday, July 12, 2004 12:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by sgtgump: ..."Kerry Vs. Bush - whoever wins-we lose."... I am going to vote for the Libertarians again this election. I urge others to vote their conscience. If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.
Monday, July 12, 2004 12:39 PM
Monday, July 12, 2004 12:56 PM
TRAGICSTORY
Monday, July 12, 2004 12:57 PM
CREVANREAVER
Quote:Originally posted by sgtgump:..."Kerry Vs. Bush - whoever wins-we lose."... I am going to vote for the Libertarians again this election. I urge others to vote their conscience. If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil. Originally posted by Tiger: That idea deserves to be recognized. Nicely said.
Monday, July 12, 2004 1:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by CrevanReaver: I second that! Both of the two major parties have been virtually hijacked by crazy extremist ideologues. The Democrats, the loony anti-American left and the Republicans, the fascist far-right.
Monday, July 12, 2004 2:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Tiger: When posing the opinion that GWB planned and authorized the 9/11 attacks (or at least knew about them beforehand), you really need to ask "What does he have to gain?"
Monday, July 12, 2004 2:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by HKCavalier: This is really sad. The stakes are too high for us to be such sloppy thinkers, Tiger. Please, if you're going to insult someone, do them the courtesy of reading their actual words, 'kay?
Quote:I'm still waiting on my reality check.
Monday, July 12, 2004 2:28 PM
TERRIBLETINK
Quote:Originally posted by sgtgump: I am going to vote for the Libertarians again this election. I urge others to vote their conscience. If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil. But whatever you do, I love you guys. www.cafeshops.com/miestelita
Monday, July 12, 2004 2:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by terribletink: In my heart, I agree with you -- but my brain says otherwise. The sad truth is that in the current system, a Libertarian vote is a throw away vote. And there is just too much at stake in a national presidential election -- especially this one -- to throw away your vote. If you want to make the Libertarian party a truly viable third option, then work to invigorate it at the grass roots level and work upwards from there. Strengthen it through local and state-level support and work to make it a vote that counts by 2008. We should have a third option, and hopefully we will soon -- it's up to us to get off our behinds and make that happen. But truth be told, in this election, a Libertarian vote is not so much a vote as a statement of neutrality, a protest that won't be half as effective as real work to strengthen the actual party. Again, I don't like this situation, but I accept it as reality. And as Dante said, "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality." Make your votes count, folks! I love all you guys too. (So I apologize in advance if this posts multiple times -- I'm on my wonky work computer that seems to want to post every message 5 times. )
Monday, July 12, 2004 2:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by terribletink: In my heart, I agree with you -- but my brain says otherwise. The sad truth is that in the current system, a Libertarian vote is a throw away vote.
Quote:If you want to make the Libertarian party a truly viable third option, then work to invigorate it at the grass roots level
Quote:...a Libertarian vote is not so much a vote as a statement of neutrality
Quote:I love all you guys too.
Monday, July 12, 2004 3:41 PM
Monday, July 12, 2004 4:07 PM
SUCCATASH
Monday, July 12, 2004 4:16 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Monday, July 12, 2004 4:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Succatash: My goal is to remove Bush from office.
Monday, July 12, 2004 4:46 PM
Monday, July 12, 2004 5:15 PM
Quote:The sad truth is that in the current system, a Libertarian vote is a throw away vote. And there is just too much at stake in a national presidential election -- especially this one -- to throw away your vote. Make your votes count, folks!
Monday, July 12, 2004 6:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Tiger: Quote:Originally posted by Succatash: My goal is to remove Bush from office.Tash, I know why I don't like Bush (and Kerry and Nader), but you're obviously a anybody-but-Bush guy. What don't you like about him? Is it just him or republicans in general?
Monday, July 12, 2004 6:29 PM
PURPLEBELLY
MELEAUX
Monday, July 12, 2004 6:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by meleaux: I am sorry to say that threads like these make me sad to visit this websight. I just want to read about favorite quotes and favorite scenes, maybe pick up some news about the upcoming movie.
Monday, July 12, 2004 7:12 PM
Monday, July 12, 2004 7:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by meleaux: I love firefly and I love calling myself a browncoat. I am sorry to say that threads like these make me sad to visit this websight.
Tuesday, July 13, 2004 12:07 AM
SOUPCATCHER
Quote:Originally posted by SergeantX But your comment about Farenheit 9/11 rung true with me. I saw the movie and I'm a rabid Bush administration hater, but I had the same reaction to the protracted focus on him waiting. I felt sympathy for the man. I wonder if that's not backfired on Moore a little. Did anyone else have this reaction?
Tuesday, July 13, 2004 5:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Tiger: Quote:Originally posted by HKCAVALIER: ...it stands to reason at the very least that the members of the Secret Service guarding the President that morning knew ahead of time the extent of the attacks. They knew the terrorists posed no threat to the President down in Florida. So, somebody briefed them, somebody knew.Quote:Originally posted by BarnStormer: If you really believe that, I think your in need of a serious reality check.BarnStormer may not have chosen the best way to express it, but his sentiment is correct. When posing the opinion that GWB planned and authorized the 9/11 attacks (or at least knew about them beforehand), you really need to ask "What does he have to gain?" Some people might say it's fat government contracts for his buddies, or the needed excuse to take revenge on Saddam for his father. The problem is that it's not even remotely possible for a small group of people, no matter how powerful, to predict what the consequences will be of an event like 9/11. It's much more plausible that he just took advantage of 9/11 to do things things he couldn't have done otherwise (and if anyone out there thinks their favorite democrat wouldn't have done the same, you could use a 'serious reality check' to borrow a phrase). The fact is, nobody but W himself knows what he was thinking during those 7 minutes. All else is useless speculation. I'm no Bush lover, but it's nice to keep our accusations in the realm of possibility, so when we have legitimate concerns we aren't dismissed out of hand. --------------------------------------------- ...The beauty of things was born before eyes and sufficient to itself; the heart-breaking beauty Will remain when there is no heart to break for it.
Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Succatash: Quote:Originally posted by meleaux: I am sorry to say that threads like these make me sad to visit this websight. I just want to read about favorite quotes and favorite scenes, maybe pick up some news about the upcoming movie.Meleaux! We love you and need you to stick around but maybe you should stay away from this Category: Thank you Succatash. Thats probably good advice "Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."
Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:26 AM
JASONZZZ
Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:23 PM
GHOULMAN
Quote:Originally posted by HKCavalier: Quote:Originally posted by meleaux: I love firefly and I love calling myself a browncoat. I am sorry to say that threads like these make me sad to visit this websight. The sad thing is I feel the same way and I started this thread! I really wanted to know what other intelligent, well-informed people thought about those 7 minutes. Why that can't be discussed calmly and respectfully I do not know.
Wednesday, July 14, 2004 2:12 PM
Wednesday, July 14, 2004 4:42 PM
LOSTINTHEVERSE
Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:51 AM
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