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In response to those who keep claiming Islam is a religion of violence, not peace:
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Last week, New York University hosted the Intelligence Squared Debates at its Skirball Center for the Performing Arts. Four panelists, two for and two against, presented arguments on the motion of "Islam Is a Religion of Peace." About 800 showed up to learn the answer.

The Muslim community is by no means monolithic and viewing us as one is problematic. We are diverse.

Yet we find ourselves in a moment in which we are very narrowly understood. That normative understanding is equated to something radical, despite the fact that 93 percent of Muslims are found to be far from radical according to recent Gallup surveys.

What becomes more problematic is that typically when one of us from that 93 percent steps up to speak, we are vehemently told that we either do not represent Islam or even more absurdly that we are not truly practicing Islam's teachings.

Zeba Khan, a panelist for the "Islam Is a Religion of Peace" last week, was met with such a response. She started off the debate by sharing her personal story about growing up in Ohio, attending a Hebrew Day School, and being raised by Indian parents in a Muslim household. "Just because you may not hear us," said Khan," doesn't mean we are not speaking."

Ayaan Hirsi Ali , speaking against the motion, followed Zeba and immediately said, "The problem with Islam is who speaks for Islam." She went on to say, "I concede (the radical voice) is a minority," and expressed her desire that someone like Zeba Khan actually would speak for Islam, but, in her opinion, could not and does not.

And so Zeba's voice, her interpretation, and all of her efforts were collectively dismissed since she did not fit into what Hirsi Ali believed Islam to be.

Maajid Nawaz, Zeba Khan's co-panelist for the motion, was dismissed just as easily. "This debate is not about making excuses for terrorism," he said. "This debate acknowledges that Muslims bear a responsibility in reclaiming their faith from a minority."

If anyone understands the issues of that minority voice it is Nawaz. Having been a member of the political party Hizb ut-Tahrir for 14 years, Nawaz was a founding member in Denmark and Pakistan. In his own words, he eventually served a sentence for four years in an Egyptian prison as an Amnesty International prisoner of conscience, and during them that time broke away from Hizb ut-Tahrir's ideology.

He has since dedicated his life to counter-radicalism initiatives and seeks to uphold the responsibility that he spoke of through his work. He even uniquely acknowledges the presence of a radical element in Islam and how its misinterpretation is still in fact an interpretation that needs to be dealt with.

Despite this, those opposed to the motion told him that it is his peaceful understanding of Islam that is rooted in misinterpretation, since it does not match up with the interpretation put forth by the radical minority, and thus somehow ignores the fundamentals of Islam since those groups somehow are the end-all be-all of what Islam actually means.

That a peaceful interpretation of the religion, or even one that is non-radical, can only exist by ignoring fundamental texts is flawed in its logic.

Characteristic of any text - whether religious or not - is its ability to be interpreted through the lens of its reader. Interpretations of the Quran that espouse ideas of tolerance, compassion and mercy have existed and continue to exist in the majority of Muslim communities since the advent of Islam 1400 years ago.

As much as Muslims need to acknowledge the existence of a minority voice that is radicalized, so too does a broader society need to acknowledge the existence of a majority voice that is not radicalized and more importantly condemns radical thought. There are those who make Islam to be something restrictive and radical, but there are many, many more who do not.

Moderating the panel last week, ABC News correspondent John Donvan said speaking to those against the motion, "You are making it sound like Islam is what you make it to be. Why then can it not be the peaceful Islam that we see being practiced by so many around the world?"

The answer, Mr. Donvan, is that it can be, and for the majority of us, it is.
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Right on. At least they're talking about it, albeit not listening.


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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:43 AM

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This was great...Thanks AU. Nice try Nikki2. First # is killed next injured.

Date Country City Killed Injured Description

2010.10.10 Iraq Leheis 3 2 Sunni bombers take out three civilians by blasting their minibus.
2010.10.10 Afghanistan Paktya 9 0 Three young children and three women are among nine dismembered by a Taliban bomb.
2010.10.10 Nigeria Maiduguri 2 0 Islamists gun down a rival cleric and his assistant.
2010.10.09 Iraq Yusufiya 2 1 Two civilians are shot to death in a Religion of Peace drive-by.
2010.10.09 Iraq Abu Ghraib 1 4 Sectarian Jihadis invade a home and shoot five members of the same family.
2010.10.09 Russia Kabardino-Balkaria 1 0 A court official is murdered by suspected Muslim gunmen while walking home.
2010.10.09 Iraq Fallujah 3 0 Three brothers are pulled out of their home and shot execution style by al-Qaeda.
2010.10.08 Abkhazia Gudauta 1 2 A religious leader is killed when suspected Islamic terrorists fire into their mosque.
2010.10.08 Iraq Madaen 1 0 A young woman is reportedly tortured and killed by al-Qaeda.
2010.10.08 Philippines Cotabato 2 1 Militant Muslims previously targeting missionaries kill two people and kidnap a woman.
2010.10.08 Afghanistan Takhar 20 35 Twenty people at a mosque are sent straight to Allah by Sunni bombers.
2010.10.08 Afghanistan Kunar 1 0 A 35-year-old female British aid worker is captured and blown up in captivity by the Taliban.
2010.10.07 Iraq Iskandariyah 5 20 Sunni militia target a busy marketplace with a shrapnel bomb. Five patrons are taken out.
2010.10.07 Nigera Maiduguri 1 0 Boko Haram Islamists assassinate a top politician.
2010.10.07 Afghanistan Baghlan 1 6 A Shahid suicide bomber murders a German soldier guarding a road.
2010.10.07 Tajikistan Rasht 6 3 The Islamic Movement kills six local soldiers with a roadside blast.
2010.10.07 Pakistan Karachi 9 74 Two children are among nine Sufi worshippers taken down by two barbaric suicide blasts at their mosque.
2010.10.07 Iraq Mosul 2 0 A woman and her 13-year-old daughter are murdered in their home by terrorists.
2010.10.07 Iraq al-Mohandeseen 2 0 Suspected Sunni insurgents shoot a 3-year-old girl and her sister to death.
2010.10.06 Nigeria Borno 2 0 Two statehouse guards are gunned down by Boko Haram Islamists.
2010.10.06 Pakistan Kohat 0 3 Islamists throw a grenade into a house with children, injuring three.
2010.10.06 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two civilians die from injuries following a drive-by Mujahid shooting.
2010.10.06 Afghanistan Mizan 3 0 Three farmers carrying produce are brutally blasted to pieces by Taliban hardliners.
2010.10.05 Thailand Pattani 3 0 Three Buddhists transporting chickens are pumped full of holes by Muslim separatists at point-blank range.
2010.10.05 Afghanistan Kandahar 9 25 Eight civilians are among nine brutally slain in a Taliban ambush.
2010.10.05 Pakistan North Waziristan 2 8 Two local soldiers are sent to Allah by Islamic bombers.
2010.10.05 Thailand Yala 1 0 A 33-year-old man is murdered in his driveway by Islamic gunmen.
2010.10.05 Pakistan Sindh 1 0 A teacher is gunned down by sectarian assassins.
2010.10.04 Iraq Jalawla 4 17 Four local cops lose their lives to Jihadi bombers.
2010.10.04 Afghanistan Kandahar 4 17 Islamic hardliners murder four local cops with a series of bomb blasts.
2010.10.04 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 0 A local official is gunned down by Islamist while praying at a mosque.
2010.10.04 Dagestan Chiryurt 2 0 Suspected Islamists assassinate two local farm officials, both fathers.
2010.10.04 Somalia Mogadish 5 19 Two women and a child are among five civilians killed during an al-Shabaab attack along a city street.
2010.10.04 Iraq Garma 1 0 A television camera man bleeds out following a targeted bombing.
2010.10.04 Afghanistan Ghazni 2 6 Hardliners send rockets into a civilian district, killing two.
2010.10.04 Iraq Mussayab 1 0 An Iraqi is murdered by al-Qaeda gunmen.
2010.10.03 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A university professor is killed by fundamentalist gunmen.
2010.10.03 Algeria Tizi Ouzou 5 10 Five security personnel in a shooting and bombing ambush by armed fundamentalists.
2010.10.03 Thailand Yala 3 3 Three local soldiers are ambushed and killed by Muslim separatists.
2010.10.03 Iraq Fallujah 5 4 Five Iraqis are murdered in a series of area terror attacks.
2010.10.03 Iraq Mosul 1 0 Terrorists shoot a shepherd to death in his home.
2010.10.03 Pakistan Miranshah 3 0 Three civilians are abducted and executed by Taliban militants.
2010.10.03 Pakistan Islamabad 6 14 Six people are burned to death by a Sunni rocket attack on an industrial complex.
2010.10.03 Italy Modena 1 1 A woman is beaten to death by her own husband for trying to stop the forced marriage of her daughter, who is also put in a coma by her brother.
2010.10.02 Afghanistan Helmand 1 1 Islamic hardliners kill a child with an IED.
2010.10.02 Afghanistan Paktika 7 0 Seven members of a family are ripped apart by a Taliban roadside blast, including three children.
2010.10.02 Pakistan Mardan 1 0 Tehreek-e-Taliban militants are suspected of assassinating a rival religious scholar.
2010.10.02 Iraq Mosul 3 0 Three police officers are taken down by Jihadi bombers.
2010.10.01 Pakistan Sindh 5 8 Five people are burned alive when Jihadis fire rockets into oil tankers in two separate attacks.
2010.10.01 Iraq Baghdad 3 7 A suspected al-Qaeda blast near a mosque leaves three people dead.
2010.10.01 Pakistan Haripur 7 0 A Christian couple and their five children (ages 6-17) are brutally shot to death in their home by Muslim extremists.
2010.09.30 Afghanistan Kandahar 3 9 Three civilians are dismembered by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2010.09.29 Russia Elbrus 2 20 A woman is among two people shot to death by Islamists.
2010.09.29 Iraq Baqubah 1 1 A civilian standing near a minibus is gunned down by Holy Warriors.
2010.09.29 Yemen Shabwa 3 0 Three Yemenis are riddled with bullets by al-Qaeda cadres.
2010.09.28 Iraq Samarrah 1 0 Terrorists barge into a house and murder a policeman.
2010.09.28 Iraq Tarmiya 2 8 Two Iraqis are killed when a cafe is blasted by a Jihad bomb.
2010.09.28 Thailand Pattani 5 3 Children are among the victims when Islamic radicals brutally gun down five people buying fruit at a warehouse.
2010.09.28 Afghanistan Ghazni 5 17 Five people are shredded by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2010.09.27 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 Sectarian Jihadis gun down a Shia civilian.
2010.09.27 Iraq Mosul 2 1 A woman and a teacher are shot to death by religious militants.
2010.09.27 India Hat Thymmai 1 2 A Hindu woman is murdered by Bangladeshi radicals.
2010.09.27 Dagestan Makhachkala 2 1 A girl and her father are shot to death on the doorstep of their home by Muslim terrorists.
2010.09.26 India Baramulla 1 0 Islamic militants gun down a civilian coming out of a mosque.
2010.09.26 Ingushetia Yandare 1 1 Islamists roll up on a police post and take down one officer at point-blank range.
2010.09.26 Iraq Baghdad 4 0 Four local police are gunned down in separate terror attacks.
2010.09.26 Iraq Garma 4 4 Four Iraqis are blown up by Jihadi car bombers.
2010.09.26 Iraq Mosul 3 0 Two brothers shot in their home are among three people murdered by Mujahideen.
2010.09.25 Pakistan Kalat 1 0 Taliban sympathizers are suspected of shooting a driver to death and setting fire to his truck.
2010.09.25 Iraq Baghdad 1 0 Terrorists kill a traffic cop with an IED.
2010.09.25 Pakistan Bahawalpur 2 6 Gunmen open fire on a rival mosque, killing at least two.
2010.09.25 Afghanistan Balkh 1 15 A civilian is blown to bits by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2010.09.25 Yemen Sanaa 2 8 al-Qaeda snipers fire into a police bus, taking down two occupants.
2010.09.24 Mogadishu Hiran 2 2 Two civilians are killed during an al-Shabaab ambush.
2010.09.24 Iraq Mosul 1 2 A Shahid suicide bomber detonates at a mosque, killing a bystander.
2010.09.24 Dagestan Makhachkala 2 44 Forty-four people are injured when a suicide bomber detonates along a city sidewalk.
2010.09.24 Iraq Kohat 2 4 Two laborers are shot to death by Islamic militants.
2010.09.24 Dagestan Makhachkala 1 0 A high school principal is murdered in her home by Muslim radicals.
2010.09.24 Chechnya Grozny 3 0 Three soldiers are slain in a Jihadi ambush.
2010.09.23 Iraq Baghdad 4 4 Four young boys under the age of ten are murdered by a Mujahid bomb attack on their car.
2010.09.23 Pakistan Landi Kotal 3 0 Three people burn to death when Islamic militants bomb an oil tanker.
2010.09.23 Iraq Taji 2 0 A man and his wife are shot to death by Holy Warriors.
2010.09.23 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two Buddhists are shot to death by militant Muslims as they are delivering noodles to a store.
2010.09.23 Iraq Mosul 2 0 A woman is among two people killed in their own homes by Mujahideen.
2010.09.22 Indonesia Sumatra 3 0 Islamic radicals murder three local cops during an assault on their station.
2010.09.22 Pakistan Khyber 3 1 Three local security forces are blown apart by a roadside bomb.
2010.09.22 Iraq Mosul 1 0 Terrorists gun down a civilian.
2010.09.22 Yemen Hawta 1 0 A civilian is murdered by al-Qaeda.
2010.09.22 Somalia Bosaso 2 2 al-Qaeda linked militants kill security personnel with a roadside bomb.
2010.09.21 Iraq Mosul 4 3 A woman is among four Iraqis killed in separate terror attacks.
2010.09.21 Pakistan Karachi 2 2 Sunni radicals fire into a Shia bakery, killing two people.
2010.09.21 Nigeria Maiduguri 2 0 Two people are shot to death by Boko Harem Islamists in a motorbike drive-by.
2010.09.21 Afghanistan Parwan 5 5 Five construction workers are taken apart by Taliban bombers.
2010.09.21 Algeria Bordj Menaiel 2 3 Fundamentalists take down two local security personnel with a roadside blast.
2010.09.21 Iraq Mosul 4 20 Four local cops are taken out by a Jihadi bomb.
2010.09.20 Pakistan Liaquatabad 3 2 Sectarian snipers take out three mourners at a funeral.
2010.09.20 Iraq Mosul 1 0 Terrorists gun down a cop.
2010.09.19 Afghanistan Ghazni 1 8 The Taliban send a mortar into a family home, killing at least one.
2010.09.19 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Muslim terrorists murder a Buddhist man and his wife and set fire to their house.
2010.09.19 Iraq Baghdad 12 36 A vicious bomb blast takes down a dozen innocents.
2010.09.19 Tajikistan Rasht 25 20 The Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan ambushes and kills twenty-five Tajik troops along the border.
2010.09.19 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two elderly Buddhist villagers are shot to death in their homes by Islamic gunmen.
2010.09.19 Afghanistan Kunduz 8 0 Eight children bleed out following a Taliban rocket attack.
2010.09.19 India New Delhi 0 2 Two Taiwanese tourists riding a bus are shot by Mujahideen.
2010.09.19 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 Two minibus passengers are taken down by a roadside bomb.
2010.09.19 Iraq Fallujah 6 14 Six Iraqis are blown to bits by Jihadi car bombers.
2010.09.19 Iraq Baghdad 19 58 Islamic bombers disassemble nineteen people waiting in line at a cell phone provider.
2010.09.19 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A Shia man is murdered by Sunni gunmen.
2010.09.19 Afghanistan Balkh 3 0 Three election workers are kidnapped and brutally murdered by Religion of Peace enthusiasts.
2010.09.18 Kenya Nairobi 0 6 Six Christian missionaries are abducted, raped and tortured for three days by Muslims proclaiming the truth of Islam.
2010.09.18 Afghanistan Asadabad 1 1 A child is murdered by a Taliban rocket attack.
2010.09.18 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A civilian is brought down by Sunni gunmen.
2010.09.18 Afghanistan Nazyan 2 1 Two people are killed by a Taliban rocket attack.
2010.09.18 Afghanistan Baghlan 7 5 Seven locals are killed in an Islamist assault on a voting station.
2010.09.18 Afghanistan Sharsharak 3 4 Children are the casualties of a vicious bombing by Islamic fundamentalists.
2010.09.18 Afghanistan Zabul 3 0 Taliban bombers take out three Afghans.
2010.09.18 Iran Iranshahr 1 0 Jundallah (Soldiers of God) kidnap a civilian and kill him during a rescue attempt.
2010.09.18 Afghanistan Kunar 1 1 A voter and a woman are shot by Sunni terrorists at a polling station.
2010.09.17 Iraq Hawija 4 9 Jihadi bombers take down four civilians with a roadside blast.
2010.09.17 Afghanistan Balkh 9 0 Nine people are dismembered when a horse-drawn cart gets blasted by Taliban bombers.
2010.09.16 Yemen Shabwa 2 0 al-Qaeda ambush two local security personnel, leaving both dead.
2010.09.16 Pakistan Khar 2 0 Islamic militants attack a home, killing two people inside, including a teen.
2010.09.16 Iraq Abu Saida 2 0 A man and his wife are gunned down by al-Qaeda.
2010.09.16 Iraq Samarrah 3 6 A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out three Iraqis.
2010.09.16 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Islamic 'insurgents' riddle a Buddhist father and his teenage son with automatic weapons fire.
2010.09.16 Afghanistan Ghazni 5 2 Five employees of a security firm are brutally murdered in their office by Taliban fundamentalists.
2010.09.16 Philippines Basilan 3 0 Abu Sayyaf militants shoot three local soldiers to death in a surprise attack.
2010.09.16 Somalia Mogadishu 3 6 Islamic militia send mortars into a government complex, killing at least three.
2010.09.15 Afghanistan Balkh 2 0 Two election workers are gunned down in cold blood by religious radicals.
2010.09.15 Afghanistan Kandahar 2 0 Two children are murdered by Taliban bombers.
2010.09.15 Iraq Tal Afar 10 5 A minibus is blasted by Jihadi bombers, leaving ten riders dead.
2010.09.14 Iraq Baghdad 1 0 A woman of 'ill-repute' is hanged in her own home by suspected fundamentalists.
2010.09.14 Ingushetia Nazran 0 1 An imam who spoke out against Islamic terrorism is quickly neutralized by a car bomb.
2010.09.14 Pakistan Hangu 1 0 Islamists shoot a journalist to death outside a press club.
2010.09.14 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two men are gunned down in separate attacks.
2010.09.13 India Poonch 1 0 Islamic terrorists abduct a civilian from his home and murder him.
2010.09.13 India Pulwama 1 0 Lashkar-e-Toiba radicals intrude into a local soldier's home and shoot him to death.
2010.09.13 Iraq Baghdad 4 6 Four Iraqis are murdered in separate Mujahideen attacks, including a father in front of his family.
2010.09.13 Ethiopia Dufti 0 1 A group of Islamists stab a Christian who had left Islam.
2010.09.13 Pakistan Kurram 6 4 A half dozen people are sent to Allah by suspected Tarik-e-Taliban bombers.
2010.09.12 Afghanistan Helmand 2 12 Two locals are taken down by a bomb. A rocket attack elsewhere injures ten family members.
2010.09.12 Dagestan Makhachkala 1 0 Muslim extremists shoot a man to death in his car.
2010.09.12 Indonesia Bekasi 0 2 Holy Warriors beat a pastor with a board and stab a worshipper in the stomach as there are on their way to church.
2010.09.12 Iraq Hudayyeb 1 1 Two men are shot, one of them an elderly man by his own al-Qaeda sons.
2010.09.12 Iraq Baquba 2 1 Two Iraqis are blown up by Jihadi bombers.
2010.09.12 Iraq Buhriz 1 3 A woman and two children are among the casualties of a vicious bombing.
2010.09.12 Somalia Mogadishu 5 24 Five Somalis are blown to bits when Islamic militia detonate a bomb outside a mosque.
2010.09.11 Iraq Baghdad 2 4 Two Iraqis die from splinter injuries after Jihadis send rockets into a commercial district.
2010.09.10 Dagestan Makhachkala 1 0 An off-duty cop is gunned down at his father's home by Islamic radicals.
2010.09.10 Ingushetia Nazran 1 0 Muslim separatists shoot a man to death outside an auto repair shop.
2010.09.09 Iraq Baghdad 3 10 Three Iraqis are taken out by Jihadi car bombers.
2010.09.09 Yemen Moudia 3 4 al-Qaeda assault a military checkpoint, killing three Yemenis.
2010.09.09 Russia Vladikavkaz 18 123 A Shahid drives an explosives-laden vehicle into a market, blasting seventeen shoppers to bits.
2010.09.09 Thailand Yala 1 0 Muslim separatists shoot a 52-year-old Buddhist in the head then kick his body under a bridge.
2010.09.09 Pakistan Kurram 10 4 Militants murder ten bus passengers with an explosive device.
2010.09.09 Pakistan Khyber 3 0 Three laborers working in a forest are abducted and murdered by Tehreek-e-Taliban.
2010.09.09 Somalia Mogadishu 9 3 Five Fedayeen suicide bombers storm an airport and kill nine others, including two women.
2010.09.09 Pakistan Quetta 5 4 A suicide bomber detonates inside an official's home, taking five lives.
2010.09.09 Iraq Abu Ghraib 1 0 A policeman is killed in his own home by terrorists.
2010.09.09 Iraq Baghdad 2 2 Two people are reportedly killed when gunmen open fire on an Anglican church in an incident tied to a threatened Quran burning.
2010.09.09 Iraq Muqdadiya 1 1 A cleric is beheaded and set on fire by Freedom Fighters.
2010.09.09 Iraq Diyala 1 0 A woman is beheaded in her own home by suspected al-Qaeda 'insurgents'.
2010.09.09 Dagestan Derbent 2 0 Two men are gunned down in separate Mujahideen attacks.
2010.09.08 Pakistan Khyber 4 0 Four political activists are shot to death by suspected Taliban.
2010.09.08 Iraq Baghdad 3 19 Three people are killed by a car bomb blast.
2010.09.08 Iraq Baghdad 3 12 A Shahid suicide bomber takes out three Iraqis.
2010.09.08 Iraq Kirkuk 4 10 Four people are mudered by Islamic bombers.
2010.09.08 Nigeria Bauchi 4 8 Boko Haram Islamists assault a prison, killing two employees and two civilians.
2010.09.07 Iraq Baghdad 2 6 Mujahid manage to take down two Iraqis with a roadside bomb.
2010.09.07 Pakistan Hangu 1 2 A police officer succumbs to injury after clinging to life for a few days following an Islamist bombing.
2010.09.07 Iraq Samarra 3 0 A married couple are among three family members slain in their home by Sunni gunmen.
2010.09.07 Pakistan Punjab 2 0 Terrorists murder a man and his nephew.
2010.09.07 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A woman is shot to death by Muslim terrorists.
2010.09.07 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two middle aged Buddhist teachers, husband and wife, are murdered by Islamic radicals.
2010.09.07 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A young Buddhist is gunned down in an Muslim drive-by attack.
2010.09.07 Iraq Baghdad 1 0 A TV anchor who tried to end sectarian violence is shot outside his home by a sectarian faction.
2010.09.07 Russia Baksanenok 1 0 Suspected Islamists assassinate a judge.
2010.09.06 Iraq Samarra 5 0 Five construction workers building a youth center are stabbed and shot to death in a barbaric Mujahideen attack.
2010.09.06 Pakistan Lakki Marwat 19 46 Nine schoolchildren are among nineteen innocent lives snuffed out by Holy Warrior suicide bombers.
2010.09.06 Pakistan Quetta 1 0 The body of a lawyer is found riddled with bullets six weeks after his abduction.
2010.09.06 Thailand Pattani 2 0 A janitor is among two civilians assassinated by Muslim gunmen in separate attacks.
2010.09.06 Thailand Yala 1 0 A middle-aged woman is shot to death by Mujahid while walking home.
2010.09.06 Pakistan Kohat 21 40 Women and children are most of the two dozen victims in a powerful suicide blast on their residential compound.
2010.09.06 Afghanistan Baghlan 2 0 The Taliban kill a district governor and his bodyguard in an ambush.
2010.09.06 Afghanistan Paktika 3 5 Freedom fighters shoot three children to death.
2010.09.06 Algeria Tebessa 2 0 Fundamentalists kill two local security personnel with a bomb.
2010.09.06 Algeria Skikda 3 2 al-Qaeda murder three local cops with a roadside bomb.
2010.09.06 Tajikistan Dushanbe 0 7 Fundamentalists toss a bomb into a disco.
2010.09.06 Afghanistan Kabul 1 0 A 45-year-old news anchor is the target of a 'brutal beheading' near his home.
2010.09.05 Yemen Abyan 3 0 Three people are shot to death in an al-Qaeda ambush.
2010.09.05 Dagestan Buinaksk 5 36 A Shahid suicide car bomber sends five other souls to Allah.
2010.09.05 Pakistan Punjab 1 0 An oil rig driver is killed by Islamic snipers.
2010.09.05 Nigeria Borno 2 4 A trader is among two men shot to death by Boko Haram Islamists.
2010.09.05 Iraq Baghdad 12 36 Six Fedayeen attack a government building, killing a dozen Iraqis.
2010.09.04 Afghanistan Kunduz 7 17 A child is among seven murdered by a Shahid suicide bomber outside a butcher shop.
2010.09.04 Afghanistan Faryab 3 5 Three local cops are exterminated in a brutal ambush.
2010.09.04 Dagestan Makhachkala 1 3 Terrorists manage to kill one person with a car bomb.
2010.09.04 Afghanistan Ghazni 1 0 Sunni extremists behead a Shia businessman.
2010.09.04 Thailand Pattani 1 1 Islamist open fire on two civilians riding a motorcycle, killing one.
2010.09.04 Afghanistan Kandahar 3 11 Three civilians including a child are blown to bits by a Fedayeen martyr.
2010.09.04 Pakistan Sindh 2 0 The wife and nephew of a police officer are murdered by suspected radicals.
2010.09.03 Pakistan Quetta 73 149 Over sixty innocents are slaughtered when a suicide bomber targets a Shia procession.
2010.09.03 Azerbaijan Gumbashly 1 1 One dead as a 'religious dispute' between mosque members results in gunfire.
2010.09.03 Somalia Galgala 5 0 At least five Puntland soliders are killed in an ambush by Islamic militants.
2010.09.03 Pakistan Peshawar 1 3 Muslim militants slay a local cop with a roadside bomber.
2010.09.03 Iraq Baghdad 4 4 Four Iraqis are shot or blown up around the country by Mujahideen.
2010.09.03 Pakistan Mardan 1 2 A Sunni suicide bomber detonates at an Ahmadiyya (minority sect) mosque, killing one.
2010.09.03 Tajikistan Khujand 2 25 A suicide bomber injures twenty-five and kills 2.
2010.09.03 Iraq Mosul 1 0 An imam is gunned down outside his mosque by Religion of Peace rivals.
2010.09.02 Thailand Pattani 1 1 A 35-year-old man is murdered in an Islamist drive-by.
2010.09.02 Pakistan Bajaur 1 2 A female teacher is shot to death by Holy Warriors.
2010.09.02 Pakistan Kyber 1 0 Mujahideen kidnap and brutally murder a taxi driver returning from a friend's funeral.
2010.09.02 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 A taxi driver and senior education ministry official are gunned down in separate attacks.
2010.09.02 Sudan Tabra 74 79 Janjiweed militia on camels sweep through a market and slaughter over seventy people, including eighteen children.
2010.09.02 Iraq Baiji 2 5 Suspected al-Qaeda shoot two opponents to death.
2010.09.02 Pakistan Turbat 2 8 Sunni gunmen open fire on a bus full of Shia pilgrims, killing at least two.
2010.09.01 Thailand Pattani 2 0 A Buddhist couple in their 50's are brutally murdered by Jihadi gunmen.
2010.09.01 Thailand Yala 1 0 A 49-year-old security worker is shot to death as he is riding home from work.
2010.09.01 Afghanistan Kandahar 2 2 Two Afghans are blown to bits by a Taliban bomb hidden on a motorcycle.
2010.09.01 Afghanistan Helmand 0 15 Fifteen people at a market are badly injured, many with limbs torn from their bodies, by a Taliban blast.
2010.09.01 Pakistan Lahore 43 270 Over thirty Shia pilgrims in a procession are dismantled by a car bomb blast and two Sunni suicide bombers.
2010.09.01 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A young mother is burned to death by her in-laws in a suspected honor killing.
2010.09.01 Algeria Boumerdes 2 26 A Fedayeen suicide bomber kills two local soldiers and injures dozens more.
2010.09.01 Israel Samaria 0 2 A rabbi and his wife are shot by Palestinian terrorists while riding in their car.
2010.09.01 Iraq Mosul 3 6 A woman is among three Iraqis taken down by a Jihadi bombing and shooting attack.
2010.08.31 Iraq Mosul 2 1 Two brothers are shot to death by suspected Mujahideen.
2010.08.31 Afghanistan Kabul 3 12 Three supreme court employees are riddled with bullets by Holy Warriors.
2010.08.31 Afghanistan Badakhshan 3 0 Three Oxmam humanitarian workers are taken out in a brutal roadside blast.
2010.08.31 Somalia Mogadishu 8 14 Five men and three women are taken down by al-Shabaab bombers.
2010.08.31 Afghanistan Kabul 11 0 Eleven US troops on security patrol are killed in three roadside bombings.
2010.08.31 India Bandipora 1 2 An Indian soldier is ambushed and killed by Pakistani terrorists.
2010.08.31 India Kishtwar 1 0 A cop is murdered inside his home by Hizb-ul- Mujahideen.
2010.08.31 Pakistan Kurram 7 1 At least one woman and two children are among seven murdered in two home invasions by Religion of Peace radicals.
2010.08.31 Somalia Las Anod 1 0 A man is shot outside his doorstep by Islamic militia.
2010.08.31 Israel Hebron 4 0 A pregnant woman is among four young Jews gunned down in cold blood by Hamas terrorists.
2010.08.30 Afghanistan Marjah 2 1 Two civilians are shot to death at a mosque by fundamentalists.
2010.08.30 Afghanistan Helman 1 0 An Estonian solder is murdered by Taliban bombers.
2010.08.30 Afghanistan Jalalabad 1 3 The Taliban assassinate a local official with a bomb.
2010.08.30 Iraq Baghdad 1 3 Jihadi car bombers kill a civilian.
2010.08.30 Somalia Mogadishu 4 8 Four guards at the presidential palace are killed during an al-Shabaab mortar attack.
2010.08.29 Thailand Pattani 2 0 A middle-aged Buddhist couple are shot to death in their pickup by Islamic separatists.
2010.08.29 Philippines Bukidnon 0 2 'Irate Muslims' throw a grenade into a Catholic church during mass.
2010.08.29 Chechnya Tsentoroi 7 5 A wave of armed Islamists attack a village, killing at least seven.
2010.08.29 Pakistan Khyber 2 4 The Taliban kill two local soldiers with a roadside bomb.
2010.08.29 Iraq Mosul 5 12 A woman is among five Iraqis murdered by Islamic terrorists.
2010.08.29 Afghanistan Kabul 6 0 Five election workers and a candidate are kidnapped and murdered by Taliban freedom fighters.
2010.08.29 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 2-year-old boy dies after being shot in the head by Muslim militants.
2010.08.28 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 40-year-old man is shot in the head by Muslim militants.
2010.08.28 Pakistan Khyber 1 0 A local soldier is kidnapped and shot full of holes by Mujahideen.
2010.08.28 Yemen Abyan 10 2 Ten local soldiers are ambushed and killed by terrorists who burn their bodies while chanting 'Allah akbar.'
2010.08.27 Nigeria Borno 3 0 Boko Haram Islamists shoot three policemen to death in two drive-bys.
2010.08.27 Iraq Shurqat 3 3 A suspected al-Qaeda attack leaves three dead.
2010.08.27 Iraq Baaj 3 0 Three Iraqis are gunned down by Muhahid.
2010.08.27 Iraq Mahaweel 2 0 A blast takes down two civilians.
2010.08.27 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 21-year-old man is murdered by Muslim gunmen.
2010.08.27 Thailand Yala 1 0 A young woman is shot to death by Religion of Peace proponents.
2010.08.27 Iraq Mosul 1 0 The body of a Christian man is found several days after he is kidnapped.
2010.08.27 Iraq Kirkuk 1 3 A child is taken down by Islamic bombers.
2010.08.27 Iraq Mosul 2 0 A middle-aged Buddhist couple is brutally murdered by Muslim gunmen as they are returning from market.
2010.08.27 Pakistan Ghaziabad 1 0 A 35-year-old mother of three is killed by her brother on suspicion of unauthorized sex.
2010.08.26 Thailand Yala 1 0 Muslim terrorists gun down a Buddhist railway worker.
2010.08.26 Iraq Muqdadiya 6 0 Six Sunnis are gunned down by suspected al-Qaeda.
2010.08.26 Iraq Mosul 4 11 Children are among the casualties in a series of Mujahideen attacks.
2010.08.26 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 42-year-old civilian dies from injuries after being shot twice in the chest by Muslim militants.
2010.08.26 Afghanistan Kunduz 8 1 Eight policemen are machine-gunned to death by Taliban ambushers.
2010.08.26 Somalia Mogadishu 14 8 Fourteen Somalis are shredded by two al-Shabaab bomb blasts.
2010.08.26 Pakistan Bajaur 1 0 Islamists murder the son of a surrendered militant.
2010.08.26 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 30-year-old teacher is shot to death by Islamic radicals while leaving school.
2010.08.26 Philippines Balili 4 0 Maranao Muslims pull four people off a bus and shoot them to death.
2010.08.26 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 52-year-old man is killed in a Muslim ambush.
2010.08.25 Pakistan Swat 3 6 Three Christian aid workers helping flood victims are kidnapped and murdered by Islamic fundamentalists.
2010.08.25 Pakistan Mohmand 2 2 A mother and her 9-year-old child are brutally murdered by Islamist gunmen.
2010.08.25 Yemen Zinjibar 4 1 al-Qaeda gunmen on motorcycles massacre four security men in a drive-by.
2010.08.25 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 57-year-old rubber tapper is killed by drive-by Jihadis.
2010.08.25 Iraq Baghdad 63 277 Jihadis take out over sixty Iraqis in a series of coordinated blasts from Basra to Kut.
2010.08.25 Pakistan Bajaur 1 0 Islamic militants shoot a tax collector to death on his way home.
2010.08.25 Afghanistan Badghis 3 0 Two Spanish soldiers training local cops are shot to death along with their translator by their driver.
2010.08.24 Iraq Baghdad 3 0 A man at a market and another in his home are among three gunned down by Muslim assassins.
2010.08.24 Iraq Baqubah 3 13 Three Iraqis are taken out by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2010.08.24 Somalia Mogadishu 33 150 A barbaric assault on a hotel by Muslim terrorists leaves women, children and more than a dozen visiting lawmakers dead.
2010.08.24 Mali Bamako 1 0 An older pensioner taken prisoner by al-Qaeda is murdered in captivity.
2010.08.24 Iraq Fallujah 2 2 Two children are successfully killed by Mujahideen bombers in a blast that also leaves their mother wounded.
2010.08.24 Pakistan Peshawar 1 0 A peace activist and father is killed in captivity by Sunni militants.
2010.08.24 Pakistan Bajaur 1 0 A young man is abducted and murdered by Tehreek-e-Taliban.
2010.08.23 Pakistan South Waziristan 26 40 A suicide bomber at a seminary sends two-dozen other souls to Allah.
2010.08.23 Pakistan Kurram 8 10 Islamist bombers take out seven tribal elders and a teacher at a school.
2010.08.23 Thailand Pattani 2 4 Two civilians are machine-gunned to death by Muslim insurgents in separate attacks.
2010.08.23 Iraq Baghdad 3 15 A mortar attack and separate bombing at a coffee shop leave three dead.
2010.08.23 Iraq Baiji 7 0 Suspected al-Qaeda shoot seven oil workers to death.
2010.08.23 Pakistan Landikotal 2 0 Local Taliban burn two men alive in their truck.
2010.08.23 Pakistan Matni 3 3 Three people are blown to bits by Mujahid bombers at a market
2010.08.22 Pakistan Peshawar 1 3 A civilian is taken down in a militant ambush.
2010.08.22 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 1 0 Sunni terrorists gun down an innocent Shia father of two young children.
2010.08.22 Iraq Mussayab 1 11 One employee is killed when a sectarian bomb blast rips through a store.
2010.08.22 India Pulwama 1 0 Islamic radicals murder the son of a welfare employee.
2010.08.22 Tajikistan Dushanbe 5 1 Islamic militants beat five prison guards to death.
2010.08.22 India Kulgam 2 0 A mother and her teen daughter are brutally murdered in their own home by Religion of Peace gunmen.
2010.08.21 Pakistan Baghlia 6 5 Six members of a peace committee are blow to bits by Mujahid bombers.
2010.08.21 Dagestan Kizlyar 1 3 Children are among the casualties when Jihadis attempt to blow up a passing car.
2010.08.21 Afghanistan Paktika 8 5 Eight Afghans are murdered by Taliban bombers in two attacks.
2010.08.21 Afghanistan Helmand 6 0 Six Afghan cops are bound and executed by religious hardliners.
2010.08.21 Iraq Baghdad 3 1 Three cops are taken down by Islamic terrorists in separate attacks.
2010.08.21 Ethiopia Addis Ababa 0 1 A popular church leader is brutally assaulted by Muslims with wooden clubs.
2010.08.21 Afghanistan Heart 2 0 Two men are shot to death by the Taliban (the second in Kandahar).
2010.08.20 Pakistan Sanghar 1 0 A leader of the peaceful Ahmadi sect is shot in the head by orthodox Sunni.
2010.08.20 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 0 A civilian is brutally executed and tied between two roadside bombs by the Taliban.
2010.08.20 Afghanistan Helmand 30 17 Some thirty workers and guards are massacred when Islamic fundamentalists assault a construction company.
2010.08.20 Yemen Loder 11 0 Eleven local soldiers are killed when al-Qaeda militants fire a rocket into a passing vehicle.
2010.08.20 Thailand Yala 1 0 A 63-year-old civilian is shot to death by Muslim terrorists.
2010.08.20 Iraq Baghdad 3 6 Jihadis shoot an electrical worker to death and take out two other civilians with a bomb.
2010.08.20 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 2 1 Islamic militants are suspected of gunning down two cops.
2010.08.19 Algeria Baghlia 3 4 Fundamentalists ambush a group of soldiers, killing three.
2010.08.19 China Xinjiang 7 14 An explosives-laden vehicle is plowed into a crowd and detonated, leaving seven dead.
2010.08.19 Afghanistan Logar 2 0 The bodies of two men are discovered after they were kidnapped and murdered in captivity.
2010.08.19 Pakistan Orakzai 1 0 A security guard is gunned down by Muslim militants.
2010.08.19 Iraq Mosul 3 4 A kidnapped civilian is among three Iraqis murdered in separate attacks.
2010.08.19 Yemen Abyan 2 1 al-Qaeda militants machine-gun two cops to death at point-blank range.
2010.08.19 Afghanistan Nangarhar 2 14 Two civilians are killed when the Taliban blow up a fuel truck.
2010.08.18 Pakistan Nazimabad 1 0 A children's doctor is shot to death by sectarian rivals.
2010.08.18 Iraq Diyala 3 0 Three brothers are brutally murdered on their own farm by Mujahideen.
2010.08.18 India Sopore 1 2 Islamic militants attack a lawmaker's home, killing a guard.
2010.08.18 India Kulgam 2 0 Two civilians grazing cattle are abducted and murdered by Religion of Peace radicals.
2010.08.18 Pal. Auth. Gaza 1 0 A 62-year-old woman is murdered outside her own home by Islamic fundamentalists.
2010.08.18 Iraq Tikrit 2 3 Two civilians are blown to bits by a Jihadi bomb.
2010.08.18 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 0 A suicide bomber takes out an Afghan cop.
2010.08.18 Iraq Mosul 4 2 Four Iraqis are taken down in separate terror attacks.
2010.08.17 Iraq Diyala 3 0 An auditor and two judges are assassinated by Islamic terrorists in separate attacks.
2010.08.17 Iraq Baghdad 61 129 Over sixty young Iraqis lining up for work are senselessly cut to shreds by a Shahid suicide nail-bomber.
2010.08.17 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A leader of a minority religious sect is gunned down by mainstream rivals.
2010.08.17 Russia North Ossetia 2 23 Two people are dead and twenty-three others injured in a suicide attack and separate cafe bombing.
2010.08.17 Iraq Baghdad 10 46 Sunni militants detonate a fuel tanker in a Shia neighborhood, incinerating ten innocents.
2010.08.17 Somalia Mogadishu 1 2 A civilian is killed when Mujahideen toss a grenade at a police station.
2010.08.17 Afghanistan Spin Boldak 8 0 Eight civilians are murdered by a Taliban bomb attack on a home.
2010.08.17 Afghanistan Zabul 2 0 A man and his wife are shot to death in their home by religious extremists.
2010.08.17 Pakistan Peshawar 2 0 Two civilians are murdered at a mosque by Taliban gunmen.
2010.08.16 Somalia Mogadishu 9 53 Nine refugees are killed when al-Shabaab Islamists attack a displaced persons camp.
2010.08.16 Afghanistan Kunduz 2 0 A couple in their 20's is stoned by Islamic fundamentalists for having sex. The man has to be finished off with a gunshot.
2010.08.16 Pakistan Karachi 4 0 Sunnis shoot four Shia to death in separate attacks.
2010.08.16 Afghanistan Farah 2 0 Two people are killed when Taliban gunmen fire into a bazaar.
2010.08.16 Iraq Muqdadiya 4 9 Four Iranian pilgrims on a bus are targeted and killed by Sunni bombers. Women and children are among the victims.
2010.08.16 Afghanistan Ghazni 2 5 A remote-controlled bomb on a bridge takes out two civilians.
2010.08.16 Afghanistan Heart 5 2 Three women and a child are among five civilians killed by a Taliban bomb attack on their car.
2010.08.16 Somalia Elasha Biyaha 1 0 A cleric who advocated peace is assassinated by Islamists.
2010.08.15 Iraq Numaniya 1 0 Muslim gunmen murder an Iraqi pharmacist who had returned from studies in the U.S.
2010.08.15 Iraq Jurf al-Sakhar 3 2 Three worshippers are shot to death outside a mosque by sectarian rivals.
2010.08.14 Egypt Shimi 0 11 Eleven Christians are injured in assaults by Muslims stirred to anger by a local cleric.
2010.08.14 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A local cop is shot to death by Islamic militants while traveling to work.
2010.08.14 Thailand Yala 2 0 A Buddhist man and wife are brutally murdered by Muslim gunmen while riding to their plantation.
2010.08.14 Iraq Baghdad 6 15 Islamic terrorists take down six Iraqis in a series of attacks, including policemen who were set on fire.
2010.08.14 Afghanistan Dam Abad 3 1 Three children are torn apart by a rocket fired into their home by Islamic hardliners.
2010.08.14 Afghanistan Kunduz 1 0 A local cop is shot to death by Uzbeki Islamists.
2010.08.14 Pakistan Sindh 2 8 A woman and boy are left dead when Muslim rivals attack each other over where to build a madrasah.
2010.08.14 India Sopore 1 0 Islamic terrorists kidnap and murder a civilian.
2010.08.13 Afghanistan Herat 4 12 The Taliban ambush a convoy of security guards, killing four.
2010.08.13 Pakistan Quetta 1 0 Sunni fundamentalists are suspected of firing into a barbershop, killing the owner.
2010.08.13 Yemen Lahj 1 0 A man is gunned down in an al-Qaeda drive-by outside a mosque.
2010.08.12 Iraq Baaj 4 0 A bomb placed by Jihadis kills four disposal workers.

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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:15 AM

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That looks like a lot of Muslim violence, but it really isn't. Most of that stuff occurred in Afghanistan and Iraq, which are understandably violent due to the war going on. Ever watch Lock Up on MSNBC? Ever hear those stories of what those Americans did to other Americans? It's frightening and chilling. Or the un-imagineably horrific Connecticut home invasion case that just concluded, no Muslims involved there.





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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:02 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
That looks like a lot of Muslim violence, but it really isn't. Most of that stuff occurred in Afghanistan and Iraq, which are understandably violent due to the war going on. Ever watch Lock Up on MSNBC? Ever hear those stories of what those Americans did to other Americans? It's frightening and chilling. Or the un-imagineably horrific Connecticut home invasion case that just concluded, no Muslims involved there.







Did Americans kill Americans in the name of god? Not really. Take Afganistan and Iraq out of that list and it is still HUGE.

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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 8:05 AM

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
That looks like a lot of Muslim violence, but it really isn't. Most of that stuff occurred in Afghanistan and Iraq, which are understandably violent due to the war going on. Ever watch Lock Up on MSNBC? Ever hear those stories of what those Americans did to other Americans? It's frightening and chilling. Or the un-imagineably horrific Connecticut home invasion case that just concluded, no Muslims involved there.



Yup, we're told time after time after time by those on "the right" that "America is a Christian nation!" So if I grant you that, that some 85% of Americans claim to be "Christian", then it stands to reason that an awful lot of the prisoners and criminals in this country must necessarily be Christian.

We have more people - in raw numbers AND in percentages - in prison in this country than any other nation on Earth. Clearly, we must have an awful lot of criminal Christians. We also have one of the highest murder rates on the planet; again, we make more murderous religious folks than just about any other nation on Earth.

Seems Christianity breeds hateful religious zealots just as well as other religions!


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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by QuestionableQuestionality:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
That looks like a lot of Muslim violence, but it really isn't. Most of that stuff occurred in Afghanistan and Iraq, which are understandably violent due to the war going on. Ever watch Lock Up on MSNBC? Ever hear those stories of what those Americans did to other Americans? It's frightening and chilling. Or the un-imagineably horrific Connecticut home invasion case that just concluded, no Muslims involved there.



Did Americans kill Americans in the name of god? Not really. Take Afganistan and Iraq out of that list and it is still HUGE.



How do you know that? Or DO you "know" that? Sounds to me like you're making an awful lot of assumptions, "u ass".

You're *assuming* that all Iraqi and Afghani violence is "in the name of God", and that NONE of the American violence is. Your assumption follows no logic at all.


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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 8:55 AM

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Al-Qaeda magazine published 'tips on how to kill Americans'


A magazine run by the Yemeni group al-Qaeda of the Arabian Peninsula has published a list of tips on how to kill Americans.

"A random hit at a crowded restaurant in Washington, DC at lunch ... might end up knocking out a few government employees," one article reads, according to the private SITE Intelligence Group, which studies, tracks and analyses the global jihadist network and terrorism financing.


The edition also includes "The Ultimate Mowing Machine," which describes how to use a pickup truck "as a mowing machine, not to mow grass, but mow down the enemies of Allah." It says "to achieve maximum carnage, you need to pick up as much speed as you can while still retaining good control . . . to strike as many people as possible in your first run."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/yemen/8058063/Al-
Qaeda-magazine-published-tips-on-how-to-kill-Americans.html

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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 10:16 AM

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Well, shit, QQ - Detroit can better those casualty figures any day of the week, this is supposed to impress me...

How, exactly ?

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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 10:29 AM

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Indeed, that list of "muslim violence" is imposing...for about 30 seconds, til u notice it is a list of three years worth of incidents and there are 11,000 gun deaths in the USA PER YEAR

kinda puts your list to shame actually...in the scheme of things i would say the muslims are waaaaay behind on their quotas.

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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 12:58 PM

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:
Indeed, that list of "muslim violence" is imposing...for about 30 seconds, til u notice it is a list of three years worth of incidents and there are 11,000 gun deaths in the USA PER YEAR

kinda puts your list to shame actually...in the scheme of things i would say the muslims are waaaaay behind on their quotas.


Actually, I think the figures on gun deaths in the U.S. are something like 30,000 per year. Praise be, and Amen!

And again, if people are going to INSIST that every crime, every murder, every rape, every molestation that occurs in a predominantly Muslim nation like Iraq or Afghanistan is automatically, 100% caused by Islam, then I think it's only fair to put every single death in the U.S. - or at least the same percentage as their are Americans who claim to be "Christian" - on that religion. After all, y'all claim that we live under Judeo-Christian law, right?

Just seems like you ought to be playing all by the same rules, is all.


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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:01 PM

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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The edition also includes "The Ultimate Mowing Machine," which describes how to use a pickup truck "as a mowing machine, not to mow grass, but mow down the enemies of Allah." It says "to achieve maximum carnage, you need to pick up as much speed as you can while still retaining good control . . . to strike as many people as possible in your first run."


Conservative humorist (and avowed Christian!) P.J. O'Rourke once wrote an article on the joys and perils of drunk driving in large, open-air markets.

Does this make him a religious terrorist? Or would that only apply if he were a Muslim?


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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:27 PM

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Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


A) Yes, to claim every death listed was "in the name of Allah" is fallacious at best

B) "Al-Qaeda magazine"??? This represents Islam?

C) Yes, American violence way outshines anything anywhere else as far as how many it kills, and has for decades. So it kinda begs the question, which is worse, murder in the name of one's god, or murder just for the hell of it, or murder for revenge, money, gang purposes, or whatever else?

None of this relates to Islam...REAL Islam, not the prostituted-for-our-own-aims Islam represented by Al Qaeda or ANYONE who is manipulated into thinking they're killing in the name of Allah.

And yet again, the small, SMALL minority of the world's Muslims who either misunderstand or are manipulated into misbelieving in the tenants of their religion are nothing when compared with the millions and millions of Muslims who understand and practice their religion.

Once again, the attempt is made to say "All Muslims are terrorists" and "Islam is a violent religion".

It...just...won't...fly.


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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:44 PM

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Once again, the attempt is made to say.... "Islam is a violent religion".

It...just...won't...fly.


It's not an " attempt ", ma'am. It's the way of things.


You not liking it doesn't change matters.



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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:06 PM

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B) "Al-Qaeda magazine"??? This represents Islam?



To the same degree that Soldier of Fortune magazine represents all Christianity.


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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Once again, the attempt is made to say.... "Islam is a violent religion".

It...just...won't...fly.


It's not an " attempt ", ma'am. It's the way of things.


You not liking it doesn't change matters.




And you not liking Islam doesn't make it evil.


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And again, if people are going to INSIST that every crime, every murder, every rape, every molestation that occurs in a predominantly Muslim nation like Iraq or Afghanistan is automatically, 100% caused by Islam, then I think it's only fair to put every single death in the U.S. - or at least the same percentage as their are Americans who claim to be "Christian" - on that religion. After all, y'all claim that we live under Judeo-Christian law, right?

Just seems like you ought to be playing all by the same rules, is all.


There you go, Mike, trying to use The Logic again. You silly foolish man! There's no place for that that - fear and complacency only must rule!

I'll note that Rappy has still made no statement allowing that a Muslim might be a decent person and upstanding American citizen. The fact that the Rapster won't admit such a possibility, yet in the same breath claims to not be a bigot, makes him all the more a cartoon character in my mind. But what would such an obvious, one dimensional, cackling and finger-jiggling villain be named? What color are his tights and mask? What emblem marks his weak, caved in chest?

Hmm. I'll save my musings for future threads...

Thank you for the continued info Niki. My perusal of the news isn't complete without a stop here. No matter the bad stuff that happens in RWED, it continues to bring to light precious little nuggets like this.


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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:27 PM

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And you not liking Islam doesn't make it evil.


There you go again, putting the cart before the horse.

Maybe Islam was evil FIRST, which causes me to not like it ?

Ponder that one, for a while, before you reply.

However, I fully acknowledge that a Muslim might be a decent person and upstanding American citizen. I not only see it as a very real possibility, I claim it to be a fact, until proven otherwise.



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There you go again, putting the cart before the horse.

Maybe Islam was evil FIRST, which causes me to not like it ?


Nope, Christianity was definitely evil long before Islam existed. ;)

Quote:

However, I fully acknowledge that a Muslim might be a decent person and upstanding American citizen. I not only see it as a very real possibility, I claim it to be a fact, until proven otherwise.


Of course, in RappyWorld™, wanting to build a community center within 10,000 miles of ground zero is "proof"...


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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:34 PM

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Judaism and Christianity indeed did exist before Islam.

Islam has proven to be far, FAR more evil in my life time.

It's not even close.


And not with in " 10,000 miles " of ground zero, but AT ground zero.

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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:17 PM

NIKI2

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Oh, Raptor, you just can't do it, can you. You can't extrapolate to any other time in history, you can't see the dichotomy of a "religion" being based on hate and evil, can you? You REALLY think Islam was born, and gained so many millions of followers, because it preached hate and violence? Really???

Yes, in OUR time, there's a lot of violence being done by Muslims. In a hundred years we'll all be dead, the world will have gone 'round, and something ELSE will have someone ELSE screaming that it's the single most important thing in the world, that X is evil, X religion/political party/philosophy/nation is violent, and on and on and on.

I ask again; if you believe Islam is violent and Muslims are evil...or vice versa, I lose track...WHAT exactly do you propose we do about it? I mean beyond spewing hate and personal attacks and obscenities all over some minor forum board on the internet?

No, wait, a far more important question. Did you read the first post in this thread? I'd really like to know, because it seems as if any effort to put up anything positive about Muslims or Islam is immediately attacked with all kinds of posts about horrors and terrorism, etc., etc. It's like anything positive HAS to be countered, it's vitally important THAT it be countered, which mystifies me.

So

1) Did you read the first post in this thread, and if so, what do you have to say about IT, not anything else, not terrorist acts which happened yesterday or anything else?

2) Why is it so important to interject into anything positive put up about Muslims or Islam mention of terrorism, bad things done by anyone in a Muslim country, etc., etc.?

3) THEN, what do you propose we do about the violence done by Muslims, other than screaming at one another?


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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:34 PM

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Why is it so important to interject into anything positive put up about Muslims or Islam mention of terrorism, bad things done by anyone in a Muslim country, etc., etc.?


Because it isn't merely "BAD THINGS DONE BY ANYONE IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY ", and that's precisely the point. What has been brought up by me and others aren't jut random acts of violence, but brought upon SPECIFICALLY for the glory of Allah ! Admittedly misguided, but still true, none the less. Until you acknowledge that and START to understand that, I'll continue to post such things.

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THEN, what do you propose we do about the violence done by Muslims, other than screaming at one another?


Do what you Lefties always love to do - raise awareness. Acknowledge the problem. Get people talking and standing up to these thugs. ALL people,including 'REAL' Muslims, who aren't afraid to stand up to the PC NAZIs and will face the issue in the full light of day.

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Sigh...okay:
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brought upon SPECIFICALLY for the glory of Allah
No. That's exactly the point--first, you can't prove they "all" were, because they WEREN'T.

Some were retaliation for one thing or another.

Some were personal battles, murders, robberies, etc.

Some were intended to terrorize this group or that for this reason or another.

Some were instigated by terrorist leaders USING the "name of Allah"...and promises of virgins or whatever.

Some were acts of hatred against foreigners.

Some were acts of terrorism related to war.

AND some where stupidly done in the belief that it was "in the name of Allah"

And on and on and on. I guess that's the crux of it. You truly BELIEVE every act of violence by a Muslim anywhere, for any reason, is actually done "in the name of Allah". In which case, there's no way to get through to you.

Nonetheless...I say again: Why is it NECESSARY TO INTERJECT into any thread about Islam or Muslims a listing or spewing of violent acts by Muslims? Why is that necessary? Why can't you post it in one of the MANY threads put up about the violence of Muslims? Why do you need to interject it into threads on ANYTHING positive about Muslims or Islam? There's something perversely desperate in not being satisfied joining threads about terrorism but having to inject terrorism into threads having nothing to do with it. I don't think you can even answer that, to be honest.
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raise awareness. Acknowledge the problem. Get people talking and standing up to these thugs. ALL people,including 'REAL' Muslims, who aren't afraid to stand up to the PC NAZIs and will face the issue in the full light of day.
Okay, that's just plain absurd. EVERYONE KNOWS about terrorism, what awareness needs to be raised??? REAL MUSLIMS DO STAND UP, I've put up tons and TONS of material about how they're standing up all around the globe, in big numbers, important Muslims...THEY DON"T GET MEDIA PLAY. That's the ONLY problem, dammit, and you just don't get it. How do you MAKE the media cover Muslims speaking up against terrorism, protesting, demonstrating against terrorism??? Because it's happening every goddamned day, IN THE LIGHT OF DAY.

So what you want is impossible. No awareness needs to be raised, PARANOIA has been raised, to the point where peaceful Muslim mosques--ACTUAL mosques--are being attacked, shut down, because people fear the peaceful Muslims who worship there, even when they've been there for decades.

Muslims, millions of them, ARE speaking up, ARE demonstrating against terrorism, but nobody cares because in a political climate it's more advantageous to sow hatred and fear, because in the media it's not exciting if someone's not shooting something or blowing something up.

Can you possibly see what I'm saying? Myself, I think it's something else. I think you need those of us who disagree with you that Islam is evil and (virtually?) all Muslims are dangerous (or vice versa) to AGREE WITH YOU. I think you can't let a thread about Islam as a peaceful religion, or about the good things Muslims do around the world every day, or about all the millions of Muslims who are protesting terrorism, stand. I think you need desperately to interject contrast, to deny the validity of anything positive that's put up, like it doesn't exist, like it's wiped out by the bad stuff, there can only be one.

I think that's what it is. Because otherwise it doesn't make sense...there are plenty of threads about terrorism, Muslim terrorists, etc., and you can start your own, and do. There is no need to come crashing into threads which are informing people about the good things they don't hear on the news. There's room for both. So why else do it, unless you can't stand the existence of threads just about the positives?

If you think I'm wrong, tell me how YOU see that need and why you feel compelled to do it.


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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 5:14 PM

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Sorry Niki, I don't buy your premise that EVERYONE knows about terrorism.

How much coverage have we ( here in the US ) really seen of the horrific attacks in Mumbai? Beslan ? Bali ? Too far away?

What of the Major who shot up Ft Hood?
Or the Times Square bomber ?

And while we do get stories on these guys, we ALSO get nonsensical counter stories, based purely on speculation, about how one was 'stressed' and maybe that caused him to snap...or he lost his job, and had mortgage payments due.... or maybe he was somebody upset at the healthcare bill passed..... please!

The news is watered down, packaged and tailor made by folks who want to present to us a puppet theatre. They're hell bent on only giving us a version of the story which will keep us in check and more focused on which survivor will be voted off the island, or who'll get to stay in the bachelorette house for another night.

You see things being reported in a manner which fans the flames of fear and distrust. I see it the exact opposite. They're not over playing the terrorism threat, they're minimizing it. What's going on is barely getting a brief mention before it's off to report the sports and the weather.


I have no particular use for religion, as I've made clear, time and time again. Practice what you want, pray to what ever you'd like, just not on my boat. But I'm sure as hell not going to sit by and pretend something isn't going on because it upsets the sensibilities of a few who simply refuse to see the world as it is.

Just leave well enough alone ? Hell no. Not when we have folks who are promoting the murder of civilians , after having praised the murder of civilians, time and time again.

Niki, you quite literally do NOT get it, and it's clear you never will. Why ? Because you CHOOSE to not understand it. I sincerely hope that no one you ever know has any close calls or worse with these ' religion of peace' types you claim hardly even exist.



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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 6:07 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Sorry Niki, I don't buy your premise that EVERYONE knows about terrorism.


Really? You think there are people who have never heard of terrorism? Where are they? Do you have ANY kind of evidence to back such a claim?

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How much coverage have we ( here in the US ) really seen of the horrific attacks in Mumbai? Beslan ? Bali ? Too far away?


Quite a bit, really. If you're paying attention, that is. And if you get your news from somewhere other than FauxNews.

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What of the Major who shot up Ft Hood?
Or the Times Square bomber ?


What of them? One just had his hearing postponed, and the other got a lengthy sentence (6 consecutive life sentences) after a guilty plea. Again, did you not hear about this? Hinting that others are as ignorant of events as you are only showcases your own ignorance for all to see.

Quote:

And while we do get stories on these guys, we ALSO get nonsensical counter stories, based purely on speculation, about how one was 'stressed' and maybe that caused him to snap...or he lost his job, and had mortgage payments due.... or maybe he was somebody upset at the healthcare bill passed..... please!


We get a lot of those stories about white guys who fly planes into buildings, too. And about guys who shoot doctors for performing perfectly legal procedures. So you're saying that those are all just cover to try to obscure their religious zealotry, eh? On that, we're agreed!

Quote:

The news is watered down, packaged and tailor made by folks who want to present to us a puppet theatre. They're hell bent on only giving us a version of the story which will keep us in check and more focused on which survivor will be voted off the island, or who'll get to stay in the bachelorette house for another night.

You see things being reported in a manner which fans the flames of fear and distrust. I see it the exact opposite. They're not over playing the terrorism threat, they're minimizing it. What's going on is barely getting a brief mention before it's off to report the sports and the weather.

I have no particular use for religion, as I've made clear, time and time again. Practice what you want, pray to what ever you'd like, just not on my boat. But I'm sure as hell not going to sit by and pretend something isn't going on because it upsets the sensibilities of a few who simply refuse to see the world as it is.


That's EXACTLY what you're doing, every single time you claim that Christianity has no blood on its hands. You're pretending something isn't going on because it upsets your sensibilities to think that people on your side of the political spectrum can behave in such a way. You refuse to see the world as it is. You can't see the 30,000 gun deaths all around you every year, because you're ONLY focused on what "they" are doing, the Muslims, the "evil ones", the ones you'll never trust, the ones you think MUST BE connected to terrorism, else why would they want to live and worship here in the U.S.?

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Just leave well enough alone ? Hell no. Not when we have folks who are promoting the murder of civilians , after having praised the murder of civilians, time and time again.


When we invaded Iraq, you shrugged about that, and called it "collateral damage". Funny that you don't feel that way when the collateral damage is on your own soil, huh?

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Niki, you quite literally do NOT get it, and it's clear you never will. Why ? Because you CHOOSE to not understand it. I sincerely hope that no one you ever know has any close calls or worse with these ' religion of peace' types you claim hardly even exist.


Oh, hell, you don't hope that at all. You openly advocate death for anyone who disagrees with you, and you goddamn well know it. But regardless of that, Niki is about ten thousand times more likely to be gunned down by a so-called "Christian" than she is to be blown up by any Muslim. That you're too chickenshit to face facts doesn't change those facts. They don't go away just because you bury your head in your ass.

Oh, and before you start whinging about my profanity, just take a look at the quotes in my signature, ya fuckin' hypocrite.


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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:53 AM

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Your childish sign off tells everyone what sort of petty imbecile you are.


Islamo terrorists HAVE no such thing as 'collateral damage'. They intend on killing anyone and everyone they can.


I'm done shoving your face in the mud. It's become tiresome.



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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:12 AM

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Don't start right off with a blatant lie:
Quote:
you claim hardly even exist
I've been very clear that terrorism is a serious problem, that there are many terrorists, so that is an out-and-out lie. I have also said that they are a minority of the millions AND MILLIONS of peaceful Muslims in the world, but that in no way equates to "hardly even exist".

Unfortunately for you, everything Mike has said is true. I see DAYS worth of coverage on terrorist attacks, on everything from cable to network to MSNBC to CNN and on. I don't know what you're watching, but it's covered extensively. Hell, Maddow even WENT to Afghanistan for a whle week and talked to the soldiers there, that was her entire program for a full week. Network "reporters" have done the same, and given us blow-by-blow video of the atrocities. How can you begin to say it's not covered? That's insane.

Sure, the news is infotainment manipulation. But if anything, it is geared toward scaring the pants off us and convincing us ALL Muslims are violent terrorists, or would be given half a chance. Ft. Hood, Mumbai, Times Square, they were covered FOR DAYS...how can you claim otherwise? To try to do so is totally absurd and deluded, if you’re serious, which I doubt you are. I think you’d only be happy with wall-to-wall coverage, 24/7 of the atrocities, and nothing less. Got news for you; when the same things happen again and again, they don’t constitute “news” to be focused on, torn apart bit by bit, especially in the midst of an upcoming midterm. It takes the BIG stuff to make the news...and the big stuff does.

You’re disingenuous statement that there is ANYONE who doesn’t know about the terrorist threat is pathetic on the face of the fact that you keep claiming 70% of the population is against the New York Community Center. Why would they fear that and hate the idea so much if they didn’t think Islam equated somehow to terrorism? The bullshit about it being a “victory mosque”, a place for conspirators to gather, yada, yada, is a clear indication of the state of the country: In large part, they have been conditioned to fear and hate anything Muslim.

What we don’t hear about AT ALL, and you can’t deny this, is all the Muslims denouncing terrorism, demonstrating against it, protesting it. How often do we hear about that, and in contrast, how often do we hear the cry that “Muslims should speak out against terrorism!” THAT’s what people are unaware of...terrorism is shoved down our throat virtually daily on every form of media.

In your world, it’s only Muslims who can’t crack under pressure and do horrific things. That’s very sad and extremely bigoted. Americans—NON-Muslim Americans—kill people in multiples all the time, that makes the news too, and they try to profile the “whys” of it just as they do ANY killings...not terrorist killings overseas, but individuals here in America who use Islam as a subconscious rationalization for acting out violently. What about the white guy flying into the IRS? Was HE a Muslim terrorist? What about Jeffrey Dahlmer, or any of the other murderers, or the anti-abortion doctor killers? It’s insane to say that someone raised in our culture, whatever their background, ONLY goes on a rampage and kills people “in the name of Allah”. “In the furtherance of life” is the cry from anti-abortion people; do you really believe that’s their only motivation? Do you really think just any American flies off for psychologically sick reasons, but every Muslim who does so is doing so because he’s Muslim? I’m sure, actually, that you do. Double standards are bullshit.

Mike is also right in that the odds of my being involved in, or even KNOWING anyone involved in, a terrorist attack of any kind are miniscule compared to those of me being killed in an auto accident, raped and killed, robbed and killed, car jacked, or any of the myriad other ways Americans die DAILY. It’s patently irrational to be so obsessed as to think otherwise.

I would actually say “insane” again, because that’s precisely what your determined stand is: “being afflicted by or manifesting unsoundness of mind or an inability to control one's rational processes”. Obsessive, too: “to haunt or excessively preoccupy the mind”. You are bewitched, dominated, gripped, held, possessed, prepossessed; bedeviled, beset, dogged, haunted, plagued, troubled by the concept of Muslim terrorism, to the point where you are unable to see reality.

Reality, simply put, is: There is a severe terrorist threat in the world today. By and large that threat is caused by Muslim terrorists. Muslim terrorists make up a small portion of the millions of Muslims around the world. The chances of anyone IN AMERICA ever being affected by Muslim terrorism is miniscule. Islam is not a terrorist religion. Our government, military and politicians, and through them our media, have an agenda that includes fanning the flames of hatred and fear of anything Muslim or having to do with Islam. That’s the whole story.

And I'se got news for you: Our military doesn't care much about "collateral damage" either; we know it, it seeps through despite their efforts to censor it. The vast majority of the time we hear "Huzzah! Our drones killed X terrorists!", and no mention of how many others were killed as well. You can't deny that. They do their very best to keep the truth of collateral damage from us, and only a small sliver gets through.

There is also nothing childish or otherwise in Mike quoting your obscenities; you wrote them, you are responsible for them. You know I have many more, I just got tired of having them muck up my signature. As a reminder:
Quote:
“Mr. President--you're a god damn, mother fucking liar. Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.... oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. President” ”Anthony--go fuck yourself...make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard” ”Frem--You miserable piece of shit” ”Niki--My guess is it won't just be your ugly face you dislike....if you had a soul.” ”Kwicko--You're the putrid slime which oozes between troll's toes, you're so low.” ...sayeth Raptor
What's petty and imbicilic, and more, is your having written those things, not others reminding us of it.


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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:18 AM

THENEWIMPROVEDKANEMAN


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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Well, shit, QQ - Detroit can better those casualty figures any day of the week, this is supposed to impress me...

How, exactly ?

-F


I'll answer. I think the "in the name of god" part is what you are missing. Americans kill each other over money, drugs, and anger. Rarely in the name of god. Rapt's point is that the religion is fostering lots of killers in the name of their god. I think your comment misses the point and may be better off in another thread.

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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:22 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Don't start right off with a blatant lie:
Quote:
you claim hardly even exist
I've been very clear that terrorism is a serious problem, that there are many terrorists, so that is an out-and-out lie. I have also said that they are a minority of the millions AND MILLIONS of peaceful Muslims in the world, but that in no way equates to "hardly even exist".

Unfortunately for you, everything Mike has said is true. I see DAYS worth of coverage on terrorist attacks, on everything from cable to network to MSNBC to CNN and on. I don't know what you're watching, but it's covered extensively. Hell, Maddow even WENT to Afghanistan for a whle week and talked to the soldiers there, that was her entire program for a full week. Network "reporters" have done the same, and given us blow-by-blow video of the atrocities. How can you begin to say it's not covered? That's insane.

Sure, the news is infotainment manipulation. But if anything, it is geared toward scaring the pants off us and convincing us ALL Muslims are violent terrorists, or would be given half a chance. Ft. Hood, Mumbai, Times Square, they were covered FOR DAYS...how can you claim otherwise? To try to do so is totally absurd and deluded, if you’re serious, which I doubt you are. I think you’d only be happy with wall-to-wall coverage, 24/7 of the atrocities, and nothing less. Got news for you; when the same things happen again and again, they don’t constitute “news” to be focused on, torn apart bit by bit, especially in the midst of an upcoming midterm. It takes the BIG stuff to make the news...and the big stuff does.

You’re disingenuous statement that there is ANYONE who doesn’t know about the terrorist threat is pathetic on the face of the fact that you keep claiming 70% of the population is against the New York Community Center. Why would they fear that and hate the idea so much if they didn’t think Islam equated somehow to terrorism? The bullshit about it being a “victory mosque”, a place for conspirators to gather, yada, yada, is a clear indication of the state of the country: In large part, they have been conditioned to fear and hate anything Muslim.

What we don’t hear about AT ALL, and you can’t deny this, is all the Muslims denouncing terrorism, demonstrating against it, protesting it. How often do we hear about that, and in contrast, how often do we hear the cry that “Muslims should speak out against terrorism!” THAT’s what people are unaware of...terrorism is shoved down our throat virtually daily on every form of media.

In your world, it’s only Muslims who can’t crack under pressure and do horrific things. That’s very sad and extremely bigoted. Americans—NON-Muslim Americans—kill people in multiples all the time, that makes the news too, and they try to profile the “whys” of it just as they do ANY killings...not terrorist killings overseas, but individuals here in America who use Islam as a subconscious rationalization for acting out violently. What about the white guy flying into the IRS? Was HE a Muslim terrorist? What about Jeffrey Dahlmer, or any of the other murderers, or the anti-abortion doctor killers? It’s insane to say that someone raised in our culture, whatever their background, ONLY goes on a rampage and kills people “in the name of Allah”. “In the furtherance of life” is the cry from anti-abortion people; do you really believe that’s their only motivation? Do you really think just any American flies off for psychologically sick reasons, but every Muslim who does so is doing so because he’s Muslim? I’m sure, actually, that you do. Double standards are bullshit.

Mike is also right in that the odds of my being involved in, or even KNOWING anyone involved in, a terrorist attack of any kind are miniscule compared to those of me being killed in an auto accident, raped and killed, robbed and killed, car jacked, or any of the myriad other ways Americans die DAILY. It’s patently irrational to be so obsessed as to think otherwise.

I would actually say “insane” again, because that’s precisely what your determined stand is: “being afflicted by or manifesting unsoundness of mind or an inability to control one's rational processes”. Obsessive, too: “to haunt or excessively preoccupy the mind”. You are bewitched, dominated, gripped, held, possessed, prepossessed; bedeviled, beset, dogged, haunted, plagued, troubled by the concept of Muslim terrorism, to the point where you are unable to see reality.

Reality, simply put, is: There is a severe terrorist threat in the world today. By and large that threat is caused by Muslim terrorists. Muslim terrorists make up a small portion of the millions of Muslims around the world. The chances of anyone IN AMERICA ever being affected by Muslim terrorism is miniscule. Islam is not a terrorist religion. Our government, military and politicians, and through them our media, have an agenda that includes fanning the flames of hatred and fear of anything Muslim or having to do with Islam. That’s the whole story.

And I'se got news for you: Our military doesn't care much about "collateral damage" either; we know it, it seeps through despite their efforts to censor it. The vast majority of the time we hear "Huzzah! Our drones killed X terrorists!", and no mention of how many others were killed as well. You can't deny that. They do their very best to keep the truth of collateral damage from us, and only a small sliver gets through.

There is also nothing childish or otherwise in Mike quoting your obscenities; you wrote them, you are responsible for them. You know I have many more, I just got tired of having them muck up my signature. As a reminder:
Quote:
“Mr. President--you're a god damn, mother fucking liar. Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.... oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. President” ”Anthony--go fuck yourself...make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard” ”Frem--You miserable piece of shit” ”Niki--My guess is it won't just be your ugly face you dislike....if you had a soul.” ”Kwicko--You're the putrid slime which oozes between troll's toes, you're so low.” ...sayeth Raptor
What's petty and imbicilic, and more, is your having written those things, not others reminding us of it.


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What is troubling is that you have a quote attributed to Auraptor that he didn't make. If you are trying to smear the guy all over this site, maybe you should have your quotes right. Right? Or do facts and accuracy mean nothing to the liberal mind?

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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:59 AM

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If so, I apologize, I had to dig them back up. It would no doubt have been you, whichever misquote I put up...which one, so I can correct it, please?

Why can't you and yours just stick to your own handle and stop proving over and over that you are quite capable of making sockpuppets? What is it that makes you feel you need to come in as "another person" anyway? It's strange.

I have yet to see anything "new" or "improved", by the way...or did the "Question" alias just not work well enough, given we figured it out in about two seconds?


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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 12:56 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Your childish sign off tells everyone what sort of petty imbecile you are.


Actually, it tells everyone what kind of petty imbecile YOU are.


Quote:

I'm done shoving your face in the mud. It's become tiresome.


In other words, you've got no case, so you're quitting and running away, as usual. "No answers for you." "Death for you."

Y'know, your usual pussified internet tough-guy bullshit.


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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:03 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by thenewimprovedkaneman:
Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Well, shit, QQ - Detroit can better those casualty figures any day of the week, this is supposed to impress me...

How, exactly ?

-F


I'll answer. I think the "in the name of god" part is what you are missing. Americans kill each other over money, drugs, and anger. Rarely in the name of god. Rapt's point is that the religion is fostering lots of killers in the name of their god. I think your comment misses the point and may be better off in another thread.



I'm sure that comes as a great comfort to the dead.

If FauxNews leaves off "in the name of god" when referring to people like Scott Roeder and David Koresh, and tacks it on when talking about every single crime involving someone with a "Muslim-sounding" name, it doesn't change the nature of the crimes. Lots and lots of American commit crimes "in the name of god". That you're utterly and completely blind to it doesn't change that fact.




The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.

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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:00 PM

FREMDFIRMA


One could make the case that money, drugs and anger ARE our "Gods" - some days it sure seems so.
Quote:
"Ever wonder what the gods think of money, look at the people they give it to..."

-Caine

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:26 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
If so, I apologize, I had to dig them back up. It would no doubt have been you, whichever misquote I put up...which one, so I can correct it, please?

Why can't you and yours just stick to your own handle and stop proving over and over that you are quite capable of making sockpuppets? What is it that makes you feel you need to come in as "another person" anyway? It's strange.

I have yet to see anything "new" or "improved", by the way...or did the "Question" alias just not work well enough, given we figured it out in about two seconds?


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off




You dumb cunt. How is QQ or the newkanemane me? I think it is someone fucking with you libs. I could start a Niki22 tomorrow and fuck with you. I am 1 person I only post under Kaneman, that there are people who agree...fantastic...Nov. 2nd comes soon.

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Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:53 PM

CATPIRATE


Q Q Excellent post.

This video contains extreme violence against a US Marine from nasty muslims.


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Sunday, September 12, 2021 4:59 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


The Taliban regime | Return of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan
https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/the-taliban-regime-return-
of-the-islamic-emirate-of-afghanistan/article36407047.ece

Afghan women can study at university but classes must be segregated - Taliban
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2021/09/afghan-women-can-study-at
-university-but-classes-must-be-segregated-taliban.html

Biden Asks Congress to Rush Afghan Citizenship Before Vetting
https://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/3301606-b
iden-asks-congress-rush-afghan-citizenship.html



Quote:

America's problem isn’t "violent extremism," it's radical Islam

https://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/3302319-a
mericas-problem-isn-t-violent-extremism.html



Women in Afghanistan will only be allowed to study in universities in gender-segregated classrooms and Islamist mohammedan Sharia Law dress codes?
https://gandhara.rferl.org/a/afghanistan-taliban-women-university/3145
6438.html

The botched withdrawal from Afghanistan will cost humanity greatly
https://www.dailynews.com/2021/09/12/the-botched-withdrawal-from-afgha
nistan-will-cost-humanity-greatly/

Afghanistan in 1970 vs 2021. See if you can spot the difference.
https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/afghanistan-in-1970-vs-2021-see
-if-you-can-spot-the-difference.919111/



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Sunday, September 12, 2021 5:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


LOL

This thread title is hilarious.

Niki was Woke before Woke was a thing.

Fuckin' dummy.

--------------------------------------------------

Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Sunday, September 12, 2021 7:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
The Taliban regime | Return of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan
https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/the-taliban-regime-return-
of-the-islamic-emirate-of-afghanistan/article36407047.ece

Afghan women can study at university but classes must be segregated - Taliban
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2021/09/afghan-women-can-study-at
-university-but-classes-must-be-segregated-taliban.html

Biden Asks Congress to Rush Afghan Citizenship Before Vetting
https://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/3301606-b
iden-asks-congress-rush-afghan-citizenship.html



Quote:

America's problem isn’t "violent extremism," it's radical Islam

https://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/3302319-a
mericas-problem-isn-t-violent-extremism.html



Women in Afghanistan will only be allowed to study in universities in gender-segregated classrooms and Islamist mohammedan Sharia Law dress codes?
https://gandhara.rferl.org/a/afghanistan-taliban-women-university/3145
6438.html

The botched withdrawal from Afghanistan will cost humanity greatly
https://www.dailynews.com/2021/09/12/the-botched-withdrawal-from-afgha
nistan-will-cost-humanity-greatly/

Afghanistan in 1970 vs 2021. See if you can spot the difference.
https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/afghanistan-in-1970-vs-2021-see
-if-you-can-spot-the-difference.919111/


I think if 'humanity' is so greatly concerned, maybe 'humanity' can step up and step in on its own behalf.

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