Speaking of censorship.. This is kind of funny.. by Connorflynn

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Speaking of censorship.. This is kind of funny..

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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:52 AM

http://www.protestwarrior.com/

The protesting of protesters. It is a Conservative group, but funny that the Anti-war protesters wanted them to be removed LOL. I guess if you aren't with em, then they're (the Anti-War Protesters) are against ya hehehe.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,126035,00.html

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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:03 AM

KNIBBLET

Quote:
Originally posted by Connorflynn:
http://www.protestwarrior.com/
I guess if you aren't with em, then they're (the Anti-War Protesters) are against ya hehehe.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,126035,00.html

The perfect answer would be for Protest Warrior to show up at a anti-war protest being held near a presidential fund raiser, photo op ....

ohhh but that wouldn't work as the 'designated protest areas' are 2 miles from the President and no one in the media is anywhere near them to cover the inequality. Sad, isn't it?

"Just keep walkin, preacher man."

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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:11 PM

PURPLEBELLY

Perhaps the Protest Warriors are a covert anti-war group, designed to get coverage of anti-war events on pro-war news media?

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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:16 PM

ANNIK

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Originally posted by PurpleBelly:
Perhaps the Protest Warriors are a covert anti-war group, designed to get coverage of anti-war events on pro-war news media?

Oooh ... (rubbing my hands with glee) ... and are they funded by the secret society that controls the world in league with the evil grey abducting aliens? (PurpleBelly ... you've just *got* to read Paranoia Magazine some time, LOL!)

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:04 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

I couldn't decide if the reference to "Paranoia Magazine" was in jest or real. I couldn't believe my eyes:
http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/

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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 4:09 PM

CYBERSNARK

Personally, I prefer Fortean Times. Wider range of wierdness, coupled with dry British wit. The sort of magazine Rupert Giles would read.

http://www.forteantimes.com/

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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 7:23 PM

ANNIK

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
I couldn't decide if the reference to "Paranoia Magazine" was in jest or real. I couldn't believe my eyes:
http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/

I was really surprised to see they'd gone to the Web ... the last time I picked up a copy (print) they seemed to be pretty paranoid (!) about that sort of thing.

Odd but true story: I picked up my first and last copies when I visited the absolutely fascinating Conspiracy Museum in Dallas, Texas. For about three years afterwards, every single piece of mail from friends in the USA was opened and placed in those postal baggies before I received it.

Coincidence????

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:42 PM

TIMBEISHIR

Is it just me or doesn't it seem funny that whenever the media says something that a conservative doesn't like it is all of a sudden called the "lies of the liberal media"? But they all still scramble for their remotes when the Bill O'Reilly or Rush Limbaugh come on tv.

The media in this country are not going for what points to their values(except for editorials), they are going for whatever story is going to sell the most copies, get them the highest ratings. It is not about information anymore, it is about entertainment. No offense to anyone here who may be in journalism in one form or another. Just my personal view.

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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:48 PM

ANNIK

Quote:
Originally posted by timbeishir:

The media in this country are not going for what points to their values(except for editorials), they are going for whatever story is going to sell the most copies, get them the highest ratings. It is not about information anymore, it is about entertainment. No offense to anyone here who may be in journalism in one form or another. Just my personal view.

It's not just you ... friends of mine in journalism would agree with you wholeheartedly.

If you're in the USA you might not have had the opportunity to see/read his stuff, but Noam Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent" is well worth a look. There's a great documentary on it as well. I've heard he's 'persona non grata' in the US, but he's well-known here in Canada.

http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/index.cfm

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

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Friday, July 23, 2004 8:42 AM

OPUS

Quote:
Originally posted by timbeishir:
Is it just me or doesn't it seem funny that whenever the media says something that a conservative doesn't like it is all of a sudden called the "lies of the liberal media"? But they all still scramble for their remotes when the Bill O'Reilly or Rush Limbaugh come on tv.

Be more specific about what they say, I'd suggest you check out how Dan Rather first reported the Sandy Berger situation.
I would also suggest you read books by Bernie Goldberg, who is a long time reporter.
When you have a business that's dominated by one particular group,( such as the media, who in polls have turned out to be predominatly liberal) your going to get a skewed result without intentionally trying to do so.
Secondly, although I don't listen to Rush but occasionally to O'Reilly, they are commentators, they're paid to give opinion, journalist are not, so the comparison doesn't gell.

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Friday, July 23, 2004 3:32 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Odd but true story: I picked up my first and last copies when I visited the absolutely fascinating Conspiracy Museum in Dallas, Texas. For about three years afterwards, every single piece of mail from friends in the USA was opened and placed in those postal baggies before I received it.

And you didn't become absolutely stark-raving narapoid?

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Friday, July 23, 2004 7:33 PM

TIMBEISHIR

Okay, I am man enough to admit when I am wrong on some things. Truth be told, I watch hardly any television news and hardly read the paper. If anything, I will listen to NPR in the car. I really do not have much use for the press at all because of the sensationalism I mentioned in my post.

You are correct on my Limbaugh and O'Reilly comment. I will eat crow there. And there is bias in the media. It just seems to me like whenever the "liberal media" comment is thrown around by people in discussions at work, etc., it is just an answer for why a story is aired in the first place instead of the slant that it takes. Like the ENTIRE system is biased. I was a bit hot when I posted that, so excuse the slight irrationality.

But, and I'm sure that you will agree with me on this, I stand behind the entertainment over information comment.

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Friday, July 23, 2004 8:10 PM

OPUS

Yes it's become more focused towards grabbing an audience...now they all have something like "Flash news", to make a story sound new or important. That started during 9/11.
The fact is we really don't need 24 hour news channels, 10 per cent is actual news...all the rest is commentary or programs where they scream at each other.
As for entertainment and news, one L.A. station has these sexy hot hosts, they have commercials for it where they're dancing around to music.....it really is ridiculous, I think they even do most of the program standing up.

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Saturday, July 24, 2004 6:28 AM

ANNIK

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Annik: Odd but true story: I picked up my first and last copies when I visited the absolutely fascinating Conspiracy Museum in Dallas, Texas. For about three years afterwards, every single piece of mail from friends in the USA was opened and placed in those postal baggies before I received it.

And you didn't become absolutely stark-raving narapoid?

Not particularly. I'm so danged fascinating to the entertainment media in general that with all the paparazzi and such, someone opening my mail doesn't phaze me much anymore.

(yeah, right!)

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

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Saturday, July 24, 2004 6:32 AM

ANNIK

I like to arrive at my health club around 9 am ... earlier, I run into all the "serious" business-types who always put CNN on the tellies to impress everyone else. Me? I look for MacGyver or Kung Fu or something fun to watch whilst working out.

Anyhow ...
for awhile, this snotty gal was coming in a bit later too, and she always insisted on having CNN on. One day I mention how silly CNN coverage is, and she replies with an ultra-haughty tone in her voice (admonishing me, really), that "It's important to stay informed."

I laughed in her face and pointed out that we had just spent 20 minutes watching a talking head interview a reporter about how the actual interview had gone (with some third party). It was pure nonsense, and not the slightest bit informative (unless you know nothing about the mechanics of journalism) or newsworthy.

Thankfully, I offended her badly enough that if she's coming, she's gone before I get there.

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

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Saturday, July 24, 2004 12:08 PM

OPUS

Quote:
Originally posted by annik:

I laughed in her face and pointed out that we had just spent 20 minutes watching a talking head interview a reporter about how the actual interview had gone (with some third party). It was pure nonsense, and not the slightest bit informative (unless you know nothing about the mechanics of journalism) or newsworthy.

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All the 24 hour news stations have the same type of programing...10% actual news..80% talking about the news and arguing and spinning it,10% the reporters then sit around and talk about themselves and how they reported it.
I don't understand the watching of it all day and think you'll be kept informed, 10 minutes at the right time is all it takes.

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Monday, July 26, 2004 6:47 AM

ANNIK

I agree ... 10 minutes is usually plenty. I really like CBC Radio One news ... generally well put-together and direct to the point. They do both national and regional news quite well.

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

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Tuesday, July 27, 2004 3:59 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

One of the things I TRULY miss about not living next to Canada (besides the 5mile (~8km) drive to the border) is CBC radio. I could probably get shortwave here but I suspect it's not the same.

I envy your ability to click on real news.

Cheers.

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Tuesday, July 27, 2004 4:43 PM

ANNIK

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
One of the things I TRULY miss about not living next to Canada (besides the 5mile (~8km) drive to the border) is CBC radio. I could probably get shortwave here but I suspect it's not the same.

I envy your ability to click on real news.

Cheers.

They're live on RealAudio: http://www.cbc.ca/audio.html

Enjoy!