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Olbermann UN-suspended from MSNBC - DEFINITELY!

POSTED BY: AURAPTOR
UPDATED: Monday, November 8, 2010 14:48
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Friday, November 5, 2010 10:37 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!





MSNBC host Keith Olbermann has been suspended indefinitely without pay after POLITICO reported that he made three campaign contributions to Democratic candidates.

MSNBC President Phil Griffin said in a statement Friday: “I became aware of Keith's political contributions late last night. Mindful of NBC News policy and standards, I have suspended him indefinitely without pay."



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/44734.html#ixzz14RTbPXIo


"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."



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Friday, November 5, 2010 10:38 AM

CUDA77

Like woman, I am a mystery.

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Friday, November 5, 2010 10:39 AM

AURAPTOR

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My subject line is more informative, but yeah....figured this would have made it to the board by now.



"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Friday, November 5, 2010 11:42 AM

WHOZIT


AHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

There IS a GOD!!!

I have the worlds greatest BONER!!

AHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Did he know about NBC's policy?! If he did, did he think he could get away with it?!

I always hoped this day would come and now it has, Republicans pick up 63 seats in the House (so far) and now this.....now if you'll excuse me.

AHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! BONER!! AHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

I'VE JUST BUSTED A GUT LAUGHING, BUT IT HURTS SOOOO GOOD!!

AHHHAHAHAHAHA!! ouch AHHAHAHAHAHA!!

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Friday, November 5, 2010 1:12 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Did they REALLY think he was "impartial"? Hell, he never made any secret of how he felt about the parties, or which one he preferred.

Olbermann was the key to MSNBC's primetime line-up. Everybody that has a show after 5pm on that network got their start guest-hosting Countdown, including Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell, as well as David Shuster and Ed Schultz. They recently brought in Cenk Uyger from The Young Turks to guest-host his show.

Be interesting to see how this shakes out.


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Friday, November 5, 2010 1:40 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Did they REALLY think he was "impartial"? Hell, he never made any secret of how he felt about the parties, or which one he preferred.

Olbermann was the key to MSNBC's primetime line-up. Everybody that has a show after 5pm on that network got their start guest-hosting Countdown, including Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell, as well as David Shuster and Ed Schultz. They recently brought in Cenk Uyger from The Young Turks to guest-host his show.

Be interesting to see how this shakes out.


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

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Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


Rick Sanchez is looking for a job.....would you like to know about my boner?

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 1:02 AM

WHOZIT


George Soros is buying 100 whores at NPR, maybe he could buy Olbermann?

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 3:18 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Olbermann was't fired for contributing to Demorats, he was fired because Republicons won.

The MSNBC/GE Military Industrial Complex has too many Pentagon contracts to risk turning down a favor.

I guarantee most media mobsters contribute to candidates, or they'd never get invited to the inaugeral parties.

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 3:20 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:

I guarantee most media mobsters contribute to candidates, or they'd never get invited to the inaugeral parties.



And it's not secret that most journalists freely contribute and endorse to the DNC, so this story that Olbermann was sacked for this silliness is just a smoke screen.

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Saturday, November 6, 2010 3:23 AM

PIRATENEWS

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:

I guarantee most media mobsters contribute to candidates, or they'd never get invited to the inaugeral parties.



And it's not secret that most journalists freely contribute and endorse to the DNC, so this story that Olbermann was sacked for this silliness is just a smoke screen.



This is the first time in world history a "journalist" was fired for political contributions.

Quote:

Think Progress points out, however, that it does not appear this NBC policy has ever previously been applied to MSNBC hosts.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/msnbc-suspends-olbermann/



So he was fired because Republicons won, and MSNBC now wants to cater to them by sucking their dicks.

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 3:42 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:

I guarantee most media mobsters contribute to candidates, or they'd never get invited to the inaugeral parties.



And it's not secret that most journalists freely contribute and endorse to the DNC, so this story that Olbermann was sacked for this silliness is just a smoke screen.



This is the first time in world history a "journalist" was fired for political contributions.

Quote:

Think Progress points out, however, that it does not appear this NBC policy has ever previously been applied to MSNBC hosts.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/msnbc-suspends-olbermann/



So he was fired because Republicons won, and MSNBC now wants to cater to them by sucking their dicks.

Comcast is buying NBC/Universal, I wouldn't be surprised if they're getting ready to overhaul MSNBC. Their ratings suck so they may try to fix the mess Jeff Zucker has made or just scrap it. I hope they do somthing about SyFy while they're at it, AMC is cranking out great shows while SyFy gives us bullshit.

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 3:59 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
AHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

There IS a GOD!!!

I have the worlds greatest BONER!!

AHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Did he know about NBC's policy?! If he did, did he think he could get away with it?!

I always hoped this day would come and now it has, Republicans pick up 63 seats in the House (so far) and now this.....now if you'll excuse me.

AHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! BONER!! AHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

I'VE JUST BUSTED A GUT LAUGHING, BUT IT HURTS SOOOO GOOD!!

AHHHAHAHAHAHA!! ouch AHHAHAHAHAHA!!





Oh my GAWD, hide the bagels.

This is hilarious. What an asshole olbermann is. Can it get any worse for Libtards? I can't get the smile off my face. What a week this has been.....Glorious. I have no idea how these liberals can show their faces around here. If I were Kwicko or Nikki I'd be hiding. They have to know we are all laughing at them.

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 4:17 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



*snicker* @ hide the bagels .

So, where does KO end up now ? AirAmerica....oops. PBS ? Doing sports updates for the Randi Rhodes show ?

bwwwahhhaaahaaaahaaa!!


"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Saturday, November 6, 2010 4:31 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

*snicker* @ hide the bagels .

So, where does KO end up now ? AirAmerica....oops. PBS ? Doing sports updates for the Randi Rhodes show ?

bwwwahhhaaahaaaahaaa!!


"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."





AIRAMERICA.....ROFL.....That is fucking hilarious. Can you fucking imagine tuning in and KO was on? Hahahaha

Man, this has been a bad week for libtards...lol

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 5:57 AM

RIGHTEOUS9




That's fucking hilarious that Rap is pointing out that there are no liberal outlets for Keith to go to even while he has said for years that the media leans left.

So how long have you actually known you were full of shit?

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 6:32 AM

WHOZIT


My guess is since Olbermann is a lib and on the New York A-list he'll be back, he can take the 8 p.m. slot at CNN after they fire Parker & Spitzer. I have a feeling that EVERYONE at MSNBC is in danger, an all foul tempered liberal primetime line up isn't working.

I wonder whet liberal will be the next to get axed? My guess is Ed Schultz, he's half nutz, wants to have sex with Barry, and has a nasty temper.

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 6:38 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


He doesn't. Never will. I'm glad to see you guys are onto something else to chortle with glee about, at least it's a change from politics.

Personally, I would have fired him for being such a complete big-headed idiot soaked in ego, and no, I don't believe the political contributions have necessarily anything to do with it. Maybe last straw or something. Between his ratings, those damned Friday What's-his-name readings, none of which I ever saw...well, I saw little of Olbermann for a long time anyway. Anyone wonder if it has anything to do with that last hideous rant he did on some right-winger recently? It was pretty ugly and he deserved to be FIRED for that!

I hope they find someone decent to replace him...ANYONE from the Young Turks makes me leery, but I don't know the guy. I usually don't start watching until Maddow anyway, and she's followed immediately by Jon Stewart/Colbert on Comedy Central, so that's my dose of politics for the day now.

Keith Olberman in less than one minute:



My all-time FAVORITE is the SNL skit with Ben Affleck doing Olbermann impersonation. I can't find the damned thing, and I wanted Jim to see it. Can anyone else find it?



Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off




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Saturday, November 6, 2010 7:04 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
My guess is since Olbermann is a lib and on the New York A-list he'll be back, he can take the 8 p.m. slot at CNN after they fire Parker & Spitzer. I have a feeling that EVERYONE at MSNBC is in danger, an all foul tempered liberal primetime line up isn't working.

I wonder whet liberal will be the next to get axed? My guess is Ed Schultz, he's half nutz, wants to have sex with Barry, and has a nasty temper.



.....And he's stupid.

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 7:07 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
He doesn't. Never will. I'm glad to see you guys are onto something else to chortle with glee about, at least it's a change from politics.

Personally, I would have fired him for being such a complete big-headed idiot soaked in ego, and no, I don't believe the political contributions have necessarily anything to do with it. Maybe last straw or something. Between his ratings, those damned Friday What's-his-name readings, none of which I ever saw...well, I saw little of Olbermann for a long time anyway. Anyone wonder if it has anything to do with that last hideous rant he did on some right-winger recently? It was pretty ugly and he deserved to be FIRED for that!

I hope they find someone decent to replace him...ANYONE from the Young Turks makes me leery, but I don't know the guy. I usually don't start watching until Maddow anyway, and she's followed immediately by Jon Stewart/Colbert on Comedy Central, so that's my dose of politics for the day now.

Keith Olberman in less than one minute:



My all-time FAVORITE is the SNL skit with Ben Affleck doing Olbermann impersonation. I can't find the damned thing, and I wanted Jim to see it. Can anyone else find it?



Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off







Please, you bi-sexual old hag, you've been sucking Olbermann's cock for years....And when not sucking his cock you were sucking Maddow's cock....I laugh at you. What a bad month this is for you.....lol. Get back on the couch and take your temp., put on MSNBC, and cry along with the rest of the tards....ROFL

That you get your dose of politics from a gay libtard and a comedian is....Priceless.

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 7:20 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
He doesn't. Never will. I'm glad to see you guys are onto something else to chortle with glee about, at least it's a change from politics.

Personally, I would have fired him for being such a complete big-headed idiot soaked in ego, and no, I don't believe the political contributions have necessarily anything to do with it. Maybe last straw or something. Between his ratings, those damned Friday What's-his-name readings, none of which I ever saw...well, I saw little of Olbermann for a long time anyway. Anyone wonder if it has anything to do with that last hideous rant he did on some right-winger recently? It was pretty ugly and he deserved to be FIRED for that!

I hope they find someone decent to replace him...ANYONE from the Young Turks makes me leery, but I don't know the guy. I usually don't start watching until Maddow anyway, and she's followed immediately by Jon Stewart/Colbert on Comedy Central, so that's my dose of politics for the day now.

Keith Olberman in less than one minute:



My all-time FAVORITE is the SNL skit with Ben Affleck doing Olbermann impersonation. I can't find the damned thing, and I wanted Jim to see it. Can anyone else find it?



Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off







Please, you bi-sexual old hag, you've been sucking Olbermann's cock for years....And when not sucking his cock you were sucking Maddow's cock....I laugh at you. What a bad month this is for you.....lol. Get back on the couch and take your temp., put on MSNBC, and cry along with the rest of the tards....ROFL

That you get your dose of politics from a gay libtard and a comedian is....Priceless.

Maddow's cock?... She's a "SHEMALE"! I knew it!

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 2:05 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Affleck as Olbermann:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/02/saturday-night-lives-olbe_n_1
40102.html




The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 2:24 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Affleck as Olbermann:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/02/saturday-night-lives-olbe_n_1
40102.html




The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


Olbermann as Olbermann: Duh

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 4:04 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Affleck as Olbermann:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/02/saturday-night-lives-olbe_n_1
40102.html




The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


Olbermann as Olbermann: Duh




Is it not Hilarious the way these libtards eat their own...Kwicko, you have sucked olbedoggs cock for years...we remember the fifth of november and you tards...You gays are funny

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 5:22 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Olbermann did a great job reporting on Bushcrimes.

But when he said Obama was the 2nd coming of Christ he lost all credibility with me.

I wonder how many tens of millions GE Microsoft paid Olby for propaganda services?

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 5:27 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Righteous9:


That's fucking hilarious that Rap is pointing out that there are no liberal outlets for Keith to go to even while he has said for years that the media leans left.

So how long have you actually known you were full of shit?



No, just that Olbermann's at the end of his rope. He's gone from some what respectable sports analyst to ultra far left wing MSNBC. Because he's such a d-bag, and because AirAmerica is now extinct, Olbermann's made his bed , and now has to lie in it.

Had he remained sane, he could have journeyed around the real networks, ( abc, cbs, nbc ) for a while, and then gone bat shit crazy , to end up on msnbc. Now, all he has left is.....what ? Update guy for some SF radio station ? Covering Lesbian womyn's field hockey and the WNBA ?

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Saturday, November 6, 2010 5:52 PM

RIGHTEOUS9


you basically repeated that there are no outlets for a far left-wing pundit to find a home, and of course your version of far left wing is absurd...though I imagine that he's burned enough bridges with other networks just by hammering at the very things that they all fund so freely.

Olbermann is occasionally overblown, and he's been all too willing to condemn some people on the right with a weak string of facts...but at least he used facts..."200 million for an india adventure" anybody? Okay hanity, you can put your hand down, you've been counted...okay limbaugh...gottcha, okay beck... mmmm I can see this is going to take a while...who on the right didn't report this?

Olbermann has also been the one to show other people's criticism of himself on his show, and to even admit to going too far in some instances. When Stewart lampooned him, it was pretty scathing, but there was also praise in there for Olberman's work as a man of integrity, who had lost his way some in the polarized culture of them versus us. NOt that you give a shit how Stewart feels about him...


....and.... I can't believe I'm responding to Pirate News, but I'm getting the sense you just assumed that since Olbermann is a liberal he treated Obama as the second coming of christ.

Did you hear his commentary when Obama's people told the "professional left" they were a problem? probably not.


When Bush was in office the right was smart enough to have one issue they could point to incase somebody told them all they do is prop up Bush's policies. They'd say...na ah...we disagree on all kinds of things, like.......his stance on illegal immigration, and....that totally proves we aren't the administration's lap-dogs.

By the way, nobody was talking about how much Bush was spending at the time. Now they all say shit like..."Bush was a big government spender...I didn't defend his policies...I talked about his spending all the time." pure BS...but maybe somebody can enlighten me with a montage made of all the right wing criticisms of bush while he was in office...

I'd need to do some serious editing if I wanted to do one for the criticisms coming out of the left wing media about our democratic, not left wing, president.

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 6:07 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Righteous9:

you basically repeated that there are no outlets for a far left-wing pundit to be, and of course your version of far left wing is absurd...though I imagine that he's burned enough bridges with other networks just by hammering at the very things that they all fund so freely.



None left, no. And for the exact reasons I gave. I didn't 'repeat' anything. I explained, for those intelligent enough to comprehend.

Quote:


Olberman is PERPETUALLY overblown, and he's been all too willing to condemn some people on the right with a weak string of facts...but at least he used facts..."200 million for an india adventure" anybody? Okay hanity, you can put your hand down, you've been counted...okay limbaugh...gottcha, okay beck... mmmm I can see this is going to take a while...who on the right didn't report this?



Fixed that one line for ya, since Olbermann hasn't seen the upside of reason since perhaps an occasional banter w/ Dan Patrick.

Maybe.
Quote:


Olberman has also been the one to show other people's criticism of himself on his show, and to even admit to going too far in some instances. When Stewart lampooned him, it was pretty scathing, but there was also praise in there for Olberman's work as a man of integrity, who had lost his way some in the polarized culture of them versus us. NOt that you give a shit how Stewart feels about him...



Olbermann and integrity in the same sentence.

Now THAT'S funny.

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Saturday, November 6, 2010 8:44 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


His mistake was not letting a corporation donate: after all they have more freedom of speech than individuals.

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 8:56 PM

JONGSSTRAW


I roar with laughter when I see Niki and Kwiki trying to separate themselves from one their great leaders and proponents of liberal insanity, Keith Olbermann. That's more than hysterical, because those two have taken his hard left ideology, along with the dishonesty and hate that goes with it, and regurgitated it in the RWED every day of their lives.





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Saturday, November 6, 2010 9:15 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"... from one their great leaders ..."

Your English is slipping - drinking again?

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 9:24 PM

RIGHTEOUS9




Jong,

who is it on the right that you trust, in terms of commentators? I look forward to learning about this paragon of virtue.

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 9:40 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by Righteous9:


Jong,

who is it on the right that you trust, in terms of commentators? I look forward to learning about this paragon of virtue.


You're looking to put me on the defensive right off by mocking any answer I give even before I give it. Nice sarcasm, looks like Olbermann schooled you well.





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Saturday, November 6, 2010 10:30 PM

RIGHTEOUS9



wtf are you talking about?


I'm asking because I've seen you post reasonable things on occasion, and I am encouraged that I can typically expect something other than talking points from you. Still, thse days, I see you frequently posting generalized, non-specific diatribes about how bad the left is.

Given the things I've seen you post in the past, and given the subject of this thread, I thought I might actually get a thought-out response from you on this.

Yes, I am absolutely dubious that you can come up with a name on the right that is solid, or even close, and yes, I indicated that outright. It doesn't mean I'm not genuinely interested. I'm going to assume your response is not in any way shape or form an indication that you yourself find the pundits you favor hard to stand by.

And you know, I'm not sure what level of polite I'm supposed to be. You characterize liberals, all of them, pretty harshly, and I happen to be one. I would think you could take a little condescension, being that you're so willing to dish out what you do.


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 2:17 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Righteous9:


Jong,

who is it on the right that you trust, in terms of commentators? I look forward to learning about this paragon of virtue.

I would like to know a right-wing pundit that YOU like, or do you think they are ALL nutz, evil, bigots, kitten eatters, etc.

I like Pat Cadell and he's a lib pundit, but he's not a foul tempered jerk who's always spewing the party line, him I can listen to and not get pissed. I may not like what he's saying but atleast he isn't trying to shame me for not agreeing with him.

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Sunday, November 7, 2010 2:29 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I roar with laughter when I see Niki and Kwiki trying to separate themselves from one their great leaders and proponents of liberal insanity, Keith Olbermann. That's more than hysterical, because those two have taken his hard left ideology, along with the dishonesty and hate that goes with it, and regurgitated it in the RWED every day of their lives.



I'm sorry - can you maybe provide some kind of cite or evidence that I'm ideologically "separating" myself from Olbermann?


MSNBC is within their rights to suspend him, discipline him, or outright fire him. Personally, I hope they don't do the latter, but they've already done the two former.

What has me roaring with laughter is the always-present hypocrisy coming from the right, who howled with faux-righteous indignation when Juan Williams was fired for expressing an opinion, and cheered with delight when the SCOTUS said that corporations have more free speech rights than individuals do - and who now have no issue with a commentator being suspended for expressing HIS free speech rights by supporting candidates of his own choosing, without first seeking corporate approval to do so. Do you think NBC's parent company, GE, would seek approval from its employees before making unlimited campaign donations? Do you think YOUR boss should have the right to fire you for your political leanings?

It's also a bit curious that Joe Scarbrough and Pat Buchanan - both of whom also draw their paychecks from MSNBC and NBCNews - HAVEN'T been suspended or reprimanded, despite the fact that both of them also made political contributions.


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 2:38 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Righteous9:


Jong,

who is it on the right that you trust, in terms of commentators? I look forward to learning about this paragon of virtue.




Dan Carlin. He tells uncomfortable truths, regardless of the "sides" or the consequences.


I like Jongsie's dodge, though. While accusing everyone else of waffling and "separating" themselves from one pundit, he stoically refuses to take a stand on who HE listens to.


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 2:53 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Righteous9:

wtf are you talking about?


I'm asking because I've seen you post reasonable things on occasion, and I am encouraged that I can typically expect something other than talking points from you. Still, thse days, I see you frequently posting generalized, non-specific diatribes about how bad the left is.

Given the things I've seen you post in the past, and given the subject of this thread, I thought I might actually get a thought-out response from you on this.

Yes, I am absolutely dubious that you can come up with a name on the right that is solid, or even close, and yes, I indicated that outright. It doesn't mean I'm not genuinely interested. I'm going to assume your response is not in any way shape or form an indication that you yourself find the pundits you favor hard to stand by.

And you know, I'm not sure what level of polite I'm supposed to be. You characterize liberals, all of them, pretty harshly, and I happen to be one. I would think you could take a little condescension, being that you're so willing to dish out what you do.





A strange thing happens to Jongsie/RiverLove around election cycles - he goes from occasionally reasonable to full-on batshit crazy partisan. The election's over now, but he seems to still be stuck on nuts. Which is oddly appropriate, being that he's a tea-bagger. ;)


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 4:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by Righteous9:

wtf are you talking about?


I'm asking because I've seen you post reasonable things on occasion, and I am encouraged that I can typically expect something other than talking points from you. Still, thse days, I see you frequently posting generalized, non-specific diatribes about how bad the left is.

Given the things I've seen you post in the past, and given the subject of this thread, I thought I might actually get a thought-out response from you on this.

Yes, I am absolutely dubious that you can come up with a name on the right that is solid, or even close, and yes, I indicated that outright. It doesn't mean I'm not genuinely interested. I'm going to assume your response is not in any way shape or form an indication that you yourself find the pundits you favor hard to stand by.

And you know, I'm not sure what level of polite I'm supposed to be. You characterize liberals, all of them, pretty harshly, and I happen to be one. I would think you could take a little condescension, being that you're so willing to dish out what you do.





A strange thing happens to Jongsie/RiverLove around election cycles - he goes from occasionally reasonable to full-on batshit crazy partisan. The election's over now, but he seems to still be stuck on nuts. Which is oddly appropriate, being that he's a tea-bagger.



Nice try Darth Kwicko, but your desperate and immature responses only prove how right I am and how wrong you are about almost everything. I know it hurts you to the core having to see Obama and the Dems.....what was the phrase Obama used?....oh yeah, "get a shellacking"...this election. It's gotta be tough for you to live with the harsh reality that you & your tightly-wound liberal ilk really are just a small minority in America when it comes time to vote. You got lucky with your radical Lib Prez. Obama; the conditions that both created and masked his grotesquely un-qualified rise to become President won't happen again, at least hopefully not for a long while. You best get ready for a tidal wave of Conservative political and cultural victories that will surely make you even more ornery and despicable than you usually are. Your many gross, profanity-laced back & forths with AuRaptor, Wulf, and others show the entire 'verse your true self.





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Sunday, November 7, 2010 4:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Nice try Darth Kwicko, but your desperate attempts to smear me only prove how right I am and how wrong you are about almost everything.



DreamTrove: here is exhibit A. This is a person behaving in a very Authoritarian way. You could change the rest of the post as follows, and imagine it posted back in 2008:

"I know it hurts you to the core having to see Bush and the Repubs.....what was the phrase so-and-so used?....oh yeah, "get a shellacking"...this election. It's gotta be tough for you to live with the harsh reality that you & your tightly-wound conservative ilk really are just a small minority in America when it comes time to vote."

etc etc

This would still be an RWA mindset. Regardless of JS's race, hair, religion, gender, or anything else: this kind of ranting reveals him/her to have pretty strong RWA tendencies.

You'll note that no liberals posted things like this in 2008. But with the Reblican power waxing, the site is full of such tripe. Interesting, huh?


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hmm-burble-blah, blah-blah-blah, take a left

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Sunday, November 7, 2010 5:10 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Your many gross, profanity-laced back & forths with AuRaptor, Wulf, and others show the entire 'verse your true self.


As do quite a few of yours, both under this screen name and under the RiverLove name. Change any titles lately? "Peek-a-boo" ring any bells? I still see you, y'know.


And of course, Jongsie here still hasn't answered a simple question: Who on the right do you trust for your info? Who do you listen to? Who's your unbiased paragon of objectivity?


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 5:42 AM

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Savage.....tells it like it is, warts and all.

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Sunday, November 7, 2010 8:56 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


OH, THANK YOU, Mike! Oh, boy, now I can share it with Jim so he can get some giggles!
Quote:

But when he said Obama was the 2nd coming of Christ he lost all credibility with me.
PN, did he really SAY that? You sure it wasn’t satire? I can’t imagine anyone stupid enough to say such a thing and actually BELIEVE it!

Absolutely:
Quote:

He's gone from some what respectable sports analyst to ultra far left wing MSNBC
Sad to see deterioration and overgrown ego in anyone, but especially someone who supposedly has a brain.

What gets me is that I rarely, if ever, see anyone from your side decry ANYONE on the right, you tow the party line and defend even the indefensible, while those of us on the “other side” are quite willing to call it like we see it, whichever political point of view is eschewed, when they act like idiots. I recall a few who have called Beck and his ilk idiots, but they were very few and the rest consistently defend Fox as “fair and balanced”, and will do so to the grave. We don’t “turn on” anyone “liberal”, we denounce stupidity honestly in whoever we see it. Our denigration of Olbermann, Chris Matthews at times and my intense dislike of Ed Schultz doesn’t fit with those of you who are RWAs, so you latch onto it as “eating our own”. They were never “our own”, but you don’t seem capable of grasping that.

Yes, Righteous, you make the same point:
Quote:

but at least he used facts..."200 million for an India adventure" anybody? Okay hanity, you can put your hand down, you've been counted...okay limbaugh...gottcha, okay beck... mmmm I can see this is going to take a while...who on the right didn't report this?
While I disagree that Olbermann always used facts, and frequently slanted what facts he did use, he doesn’t hold a candle to the propaganda consistently spat out on the arm of the right wing known as Fox “News”.

Yes, Olbermann is PERPETUALLY overblown, I don’t deny that for a minute. That’s why I stopped watching him...at one time, he was amusing and right on a lot, but that time has long passed and his ego has way outgrown what talent he had. The Thurber thing really grossed me out, the first time I happed to switch during a commercial and saw it; it was the height of self-aggrandizement, as was his involving his father’s illness and death so much as tho’ it was important news to everyone. His various truly ugly rants toward people on the right, the ones I heard on clips because I no longer watch, were shameful and deserving of every condemnation I expressed for those on Fox who do the same.

Kiki: Damned straight. That judicial decision galls me no end, and kills the last hope I had that the Supreme Court had any validity and was anything more than a pawn of the corporate interests on the right. This having been the most expensive election In history is a predictable result, and it won’t be the most expensive from here on; the Chamber and every international interest who want to will just spend more and more from here on out. It’s sickening.

Righteous, your post beginning “wtf” is absolutely right on, and the responses you got are no less than what I expected. A serious question which is unanswerable is always turned back on the questioner here, and I, too, would truly love to have listed any reasonably objective pundit or analyst on the right, but I don’t think there are any. But I will check out this Pat Cadell; I am always looking for people on the left OR right who can be even slightly objective. I watch Maddow simply because she has her facts checked and, tho’ she’s obviously liberally slanted, she doesn’t lie outright. I’d love a more objective source, and one on the right so I could get perspective, but I’ve yet to find one. I’m excited to seek him out, as well as Dan Carlin, that would be a real joy. Who is Savage? First name please; because I will look him up, too.

I loved your bringing up the hypocrisy about Williams, and the resulting glee about Olbermann, which shows exactly the compartmentalized thinking so often exhibited. In both cases, PRIVATE ENTERPRISE was within its rights to hire and fire whomever they choose, yet those very proponents of individual freedom seem incapable of grasping the concepts involved.

You know what’s interesting in this discussion? From the right I see nothing but “overblown” rhetoric and constant comments that we’ve “turned against” our “ilk”. Nowhere is any credence given to the concept that ANYONE liberal might be someone we don’t like, and in virtually every post there is little but denigration. It’s like there IS no concept of any small spark of realization that we can be individuals and have likes AND dislikes, but it keeps being intoned that we worship everyone on the left. I see some valid answers from the “other side”, questions and comparisons and explanations of why most of us either disliked or came to dislike Olbermann, but there seems to be no ability to comprehend that, nor to mention ANYONE on the right they don’t like. The old concept that some are unable to conceptualize others thinking differently than they do themselves comes to mind. Ot are they jist one-note voices with nothing to say anyway?


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 11:07 AM

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That's just too bad. I rather liked and respected Olbermann. His point of view on many matters were usually right on the mark. It's really too bad that he got caught doing something lame.


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 11:11 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Not really related... BUT...

"Most expensive election in history" rang my "damn we WASTE so much" bell and got me thinking.

If you're gonna spend THAT MUCH MONEY politically, why *not* do something bloody useful, helpful, with it ?

Feed the poor, build some houses, help some people, you know ?

For all the money they spend on political bombardment, which just irritates people to no end, they could generate good will and word of mouth by this, and cheaper, to boot!

I mean, you help someone out, you stand at least some chance of gaining their support, or at least some "cred" with them - I barely even *KNOW* Ben Cardin, for example, but his staff helped force a hearing on an important legal matter for me, and I pay my debts.

And yes, I bloody well KNOW it's all bread and circuses, but hey, don't forget the BREAD - you can't eat junkmail (although that'd be a damn fine idea, make it edible, wouldn't it ?) and a phone call won't buy you a cup of coffee, so that effort is in most cases completely wasted.

Which is STUPID, and this is why the Powers That Be are eventually gonna lose, cause when it comes to cases they're so mentally disconnected from the rest of us that they might as well be aliens.
(Cue: Spooky Music, PN rant)

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Sunday, November 7, 2010 11:29 AM

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Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Ah, Frem, you're such a dreamer...why not? Because there's no power, no profit in it! See, the voters on the right don't GIVE A SHIT about that kind of stuff, so it wouldn't buy them any votes. Read what our RWAs wrote about the "poor and disadvantaged"...you really think they'd vote for someone who spent their election dollars on THEM?! They'd give 'em the finger, is what they'd do.

But yes, everything you said is true, it's just not realistic.


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 11:58 AM

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I dunno Niki - you could make a case of it, really, if you're gonna send me a flyer, why not send a cookie with it ?

Thing is, the psychological factor of sharing/accepting food is, hands down, one of my best "tricks" - I mentioned Rev, who served in Kosovo (the guy whos pic they stole for that stupid sniper hoax) before, well, him and I cooked up a plot around this after the germans, seeing how terribly KBR was "feeding" our troops, took pity on him and dragged him into their mess hall for some REAL food...

This then lead to him offering to teach them how to use our weapons and vice versa, in case that knowledge might be useful in a combined force engagement - which given the boredom of garrison duty and the fact that it was something useful for them to do, wound up being a MUCH larger project supported by the local commanders, and not only was all that cross training helpful, it did wonders diplomatically and for troop/force relations.

Well, out of that we hatched a plan, and while I baked a regular buttload of chocolate chip cookies, he started cramming Serbian/Albanian - and the next time he stepped off post to have a smoke, he pulls out a bag of cookies, and seeing interest, offers some to the locals standing around glaring at him, with a kind word or two.

Eventually they started telling "The cookie guy" where old weapons caches and minefields were, so the NATO forces could remove them, cause a lot of em were old, degraded and dangerous - but they didn't want to go through official channels and maybe get accused of things... so they told "The cookie guy" and we found almost as much stuff that way as with the actual sweeps and searches, not to mention one still live minefield we thankfully didn't blunder into.

So... never underestimate the power of cookies, or the psychological impact of the simple-trust act of sharing food.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Sunday, November 7, 2010 12:32 PM

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Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


On a personal level, I can see it working. On a national, political level: Not so much. :biggin:


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 1:48 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Not really related... BUT...

"Most expensive election in history" rang my "damn we WASTE so much" bell and got me thinking.

If you're gonna spend THAT MUCH MONEY politically, why *not* do something bloody useful, helpful, with it ?

Feed the poor, build some houses, help some people, you know ?

For all the money they spend on political bombardment, which just irritates people to no end, they could generate good will and word of mouth by this, and cheaper, to boot!

I mean, you help someone out, you stand at least some chance of gaining their support, or at least some "cred" with them - I barely even *KNOW* Ben Cardin, for example, but his staff helped force a hearing on an important legal matter for me, and I pay my debts.

And yes, I bloody well KNOW it's all bread and circuses, but hey, don't forget the BREAD - you can't eat junkmail (although that'd be a damn fine idea, make it edible, wouldn't it ?) and a phone call won't buy you a cup of coffee, so that effort is in most cases completely wasted.

Which is STUPID, and this is why the Powers That Be are eventually gonna lose, cause when it comes to cases they're so mentally disconnected from the rest of us that they might as well be aliens.
(Cue: Spooky Music, PN rant)

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.




The numbers from California are rather astonishing. Meg Whitman - the loser in the governor's race - spent over $140 million OF HER OWN MONEY on the losing race. They're saying she spent $47 *PER VOTE* in that race.

Given recent SCOTUS rulings, why not just give everyone $50 cash in the hopes they'll vote your way? Isn't that exactly what's being done now?



Back to Olbermann: Niki points out that many "liberals" don't like him, and some can't stand him. I'm not among their number. I like Olbermann, and have for years. And I've come right out - repeatedly now - and said that MSNBC is within their rights to suspend him, fine him, fire him, etc., if he broke his contract and/or violated policy. I can *hope* they won't fire him, but I'm the first to admit they have the right to do so.

Meanwhile, for those who, like me, would like to see Olbermann back on his show - back on the NUMBER ONE-RATED SHOW ON MSNBC - here's the petition that's garnered nearly 300,000 signatures since Friday afternoon.

http://saveolbermann.com/?akid=2664.724143.91ckiH&rd=1&source=e3-share
&t=3


My wife and I both signed, and both let them know that in our house, MSNBC is completely off our schedule as long as Keith is off theirs.


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 1:56 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


And yes, Frem - on the issue of spending that campaign money on something useful, YES! That's a brilliant grass-roots campaign idea for some idealistic young candidate.

Put *SOME* of your money into an ad buy, sure - but make the ad that shows you building homes for the homeless, using the campaign money to actually BUILD things and actually FEED people and actually HELP them.

And the best part? It generates word-of-mouth buzz, gets passed around on its own, and it becomes not a campaign commercial, but A NEWS STORY - so in addition to the ad buy, you likely get several news cycles worth of coverage out of it on all the local news outlets, morning, noon, and night.

And in the ad and all the coverage, you have to make damned sure that you tell people that THIS IS WHAT THEIR CAMPAIGN DONATIONS ARE GOING TO. Not gotcha commercials, not dirty and sleazy snark, but actual concrete HELP for those who need it most.

Something tells me you get that momentum behind you, you won't be able to spend the money as fast as it's pouring in - and the corporations are going to be jumping in, too, just to try to get some good exposure for themselves. And if a few people get helped in the process of the corpies glad-handing your candidate, so much the better.


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Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 3:52 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Actually I am undecided, locally, on Cookies or Brownies...

You'll laugh, cause, well, it *IS* a joke, but then the last time I made one of those on a political level it got votes, so, why not roll with it ?

So there's this local company which makes rubber stamps, only imma have em to a reverse mold of something maybe more heat resistant so it can press a logo into freshly baked cookies/brownies...

A little evil smiley with "VOTE FOR THE OVERLORD" around the outer edge.

The hi-larious part is that this is a PLANNED failure, the whole idea isn't to obtain an office, but to provoke other potentials and incumbents to match the ante and start offering food products with their campaigning, at which point, they can't reverse themselves without looking like total punks, heh heh heh.

Of course, my main concern for this is what if it DOESN'T "Fail as Planned", like my bid to reform the former townships city council, arggh.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpringtimeForHitler

Which of course, leads into it's own trope there.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GoneHorriblyRight
Oh so amazingly horribly - just the mere fact that we scored EIGHT PERCENT for someone who wasn't even running, and who's platform was "Evil done Efficiently" is kinda scary.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PragmaticVillainy

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I do not serve the Blind God.

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