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Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani was acquitted of 284 other counts in the case, including counts of murder and the attempted use of weapons of mass destruction.

Ghailani, 36, had been charged with 285 criminal counts for participating in a conspiracy to commit two deadly bombing attacks on the U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya in 1998, in which 224 people died. The trial was considered a major test of the Obama administration’s preference for trying terrorists in civilian court.

In its fifth day of deliberations, a jury of six women and six men found Ghailani guilty of a single count of conspiracy to destroy buildings and U.S. property by use of an explosive, Dow Jones Newswires reported. The count he was convicted on carries a mandatory minimum of 20 years in prison and up to life. Sentencing is set for January.

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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:
Ok, so.....

the guy is convicted, going to spend his life in prison....and the problem is....what exactly??

I'm not entirely sure what your complaint is at the moment.

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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:
Ummm, what in my post leads you to believe I am condoning his crimes....please point it out to me.

He is going to spend his life in prison...thats what should happen to someone like this

and of course, since turnabout is fair play...why won't you answer my simple question Rap?

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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:
I dont give a rats ass about what counts he is convicted of and acquitted for. I want him in jail for the rest of his life, and thats exactly what has happenned here.

You act like Obama let the guy go free

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Either you're fine w/ the 284 counts being tossed out, or you're not.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Either you're fine w/ the 284 counts being tossed out, or you're not.

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Depends. Could be that the evidence presented didn't support conviction on most charges. Could be that the prosecutors didn't do a good job. Could be that the defense did a really good job. Could be that the jury figured life in solitary ('cause they'll never put this guy in the general population) would be worse punishment for an Islamic fundie than martyrdom by execution.

I gotta say I'm finer with a trial and conviction, even on just one count, than executing folk without due process.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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CHETRY: Meantime, he was the first Guantanamo detainee to be tried in civilian court and this morning critics of the Obama administration say he should be the last. A federal jury in New York fining Ahmed Ghailani not guilty on 284 terror-related charges including murder. He was only convicted on a single count of conspiracy to damage or destroy U.S. property for his role in the deadly 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania.

ROBERTS: The Justice Department, of course, tried to put a positive spin on that lone conviction saying they're pleased Ghailani now faces a minimum of 20 years in prison and a potential life sentence.

Our Deb Feyerick is with us this morning. And it was a near disaster for the White House.


DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT:

It was a near disaster. This was as close of a close call as you can possibly get. And as a matter of fact, being in the courtroom, sitting in the courtroom, there was an audible gasp as the verdict was read.

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Rappy won't actually consider my points, because he is afraid that he will not be able to refute them.

If he tried, we would end up very amused.

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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace:
So basically your argument is that you have no argument. Nice

You are the one who came after me with the name calling, you piss me off, i go after you, thats kinda how it works.

Unlike u, I don't fear a discussion of opinions, I guess I was naive to think that we might actually have meaningful communication when I responded to your original post.

Thank you for teaching me otherwise

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
He was directly instrumental in the deaths of 224 innocent people.

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Debate, as Niska says, is gossip. Is people talking.

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is it that we aren't killing him? is that why you are upset?

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Guys like us, we're not some brainiacs on the nerd patrol. We're not members of the factinista. We go straight from the gut. Right, sir?

That's where the truth lies, right down here in the gut. Do you know you have more nerve endings in your gut than you have in your head? You can look it up. Now, I know some of you are going to say, "I did look it up, and that's not true." That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut. I did. My gut tells me that's how our nervous system works.

--- Stephen Colbert

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

In WW2, we shot German spies who PLANNED to do very much the same thing this guy did. But it wasn't the civilian courts who tried them.

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He was directly instrumental in the deaths of 224 innocent people.

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In acquitting him of 284 counts in this case, the jury disagreed.

Could you please clarify, how is that Obama's fault?


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Ok, so.....

the guy is convicted, going to spend his life in prison....and the problem is....what exactly??

I'm not entirely sure what your complaint is at the moment.

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He was directly instrumental in the deaths of 224 innocent people.

You're fine w/ that ? A sentence of spending some time in jail is all he should get ?


Huh.

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
You can always tell the difference between a brave and principled man and an unprincipled coward.

The coward's first impulse is to harm others to create a better world.

The brave man's first impulse is to risk harm to create a better world.

Thus the man who chooses greater danger so that he can preserve a freer, fairer world is my hero.

The man who sacrifices freedom and fairness for his own safety is pitiable to me.

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Thats an awesome Colbert quote.

just perfect

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