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The Onion: 1. The Fox: 0

POSTED BY: CANTTAKESKY
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 12:34
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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:20 AM

CANTTAKESKY



ROFLMAO. Hope you guys snicker as much as I did.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/fox-nation-readers-confuse-onion-ar
ticle-real-news/?utm_source=Raw+Story+Daily+Update&utm_campaign=01c4ffa507-Nov27Newsletter11_27_2010&utm_medium=email


Quote:

Fox Nation readers confuse Onion article with real news

This morning, an article and comment thread related to a piece of satire the site and its readers took seriously, went missing.

The page was preserved through Google Cache, but the comment thread, which showed dozens of loyal Fox readers reacting to a joke story from The Onion as if it were real, is gone.

Read more at link.



--Can't Take (my gorram) Sky

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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:57 AM

BLUEHANDEDMENACE


It's pretty clear that the Fox Noise viewers had no idea that this is fake news, simply because they are conditioned to believe whatever they are told is news, no matter how implausible.

This is golden comedy here, loving it.

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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:03 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


That's why you ALWAYS IMMEDIATELY grab a screenshot and save a complete copy of all interesting web pages.

It's amazing how many times I've had to do that, to preserve the censorship for future generations.

BTW Raw Story readers confuse Obama with a president, and confuse Fox News with an American corporation.


Memory Hole this you Commie motherfuckers!

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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 5:04 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I believe this phenomenon has been occurring since tripod aliens attacked the Earth.

--Anthony

Assured by friends that the signal-to-noise ratio has improved on this forum, I have disabled web filtering.

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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 5:11 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

I believe this phenomenon has been occurring since tripod aliens attacked the Earth.

--Anthony



Yeah, Orson made everyone look pretty gullible and stoopid - seems there's no shortage of believers in any party or audience. Maybe we're more alike than we think?

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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:58 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Of course, there is this alternative view, that the Orson Welles WOTW mass panic was a myth.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18487_6-ridiculous-history-myths-you-pr
obably-think-are-true_p2.html


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But in Reality...

That photo up there, of the farmer with the shotgun? Life Magazine just had the guy pose for it. Most of the War of the Worlds freak-out was exactly as fake as that photo.

There's no doubt that some people thought the broadcast was real. Radio was still new and a fake news broadcast had literally never been done before. But virtually all of them reacted in exactly the way you would have: flipped to another station, or called somebody to ask what was going on.

Reports of people immediately flying into a panic--attempting suicide, hallucinating alien death rays or fleeing to the countryside with guns in hand--were almost all anecdotal stories told second hand with no names attached. And although the phone lines to the studio were unusually busy that night, mixed in with the people asking for information, were people praising or complaining about a show that seemed like it was clearly designed to create a mass panic.



Says this Mass Panic Denial scum at Cracked magazine.

--Can't Take (my gorram) Sky

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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:05 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I have no doubt that the people who bought into the Onion article is an exaggerated phenomenon as well. Sure, some people did, but how many? And how long would they have continued to be fooled?

These kinds of hoaxes and fake news have succeeded in fooling the minority of people the majority of time, and the majority of people very rarely or very poorly. Even if the majority believes in Bigfoot or the Loch Ness Monster, how many believe in it so thoroughly that they shape their lives around it?

The big hoaxes of our time, the ones that really move people, require the involvement of multiple authorities at multiple levels, moving in concert, even if they are not actually centrally coordinated. Successful hoaxes require a large number of people to have a common self-interest in believing or fostering the lie.

This usually involves an excuse to go to war, or some such thing.

--Anthony



Assured by friends that the signal-to-noise ratio has improved on this forum, I have disabled web filtering.

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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:19 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
This usually involves an excuse to go to war, or some such thing.

Bwahahahaha! Touché.

I'm not just talking about WMDs either.

--Can't Take (my gorram) Sky

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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:51 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Uh, the Onion also presented this:
Quote:

A recent study conducted by researchers at the Ohio State University has proven something I’ve wondered for years: Conservatives think Stephen Colbert is for real.

This issue cropped up a few years back when Stephen Colbert was asked to speak at the White House Correspondent’s Dinner, where he proceeded to tear the President apart with his typical hyper-rhetorical satire while he was standing just a few feet away. I thought it seemed very un-Bush-like to allow dissent in that close of a proximity to him, so I wondered if going in, did Bush and the event planners really think Colbert was on their side?

Well, now science says yes:
Quote:

Conservatives were more likely to report that Colbert only pretends to be joking and genuinely meant what he said while liberals were more likely to report that Colbert used satire and was not serious when offering political statements.




They think he’s being serious. I’ve seen Republican’s cluelessness in action before, but this has to be a new all-time record. I mean look at the picture I’ve used for this post! It should be a mural you’d see in Rush Limbaugh’s personal hell, and they’re actually taking him at face value?

http://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2009/04/28/study-shows-that-conserva
tives-dont-know-stephen-colbert-is-joking
/

Report of study at http://hij.sagepub.com/content/14/2/212.abstract

Lest you think THAT's a hoax, there are others:
Quote:

At yesterday's Law School graduation ceremony, Gordon Smith got a chance to talk to Rep. Tammy Baldwin about -- well, what would you talk to her about? -- Stephen Colbert:
Quote:


It turns out that she's a fan of Stephen Colbert, too. She asked whether I thought he was, at heart, a liberal or conservative. (Apparently, this is a matter of dispute among members of Congress.) I told her that I assumed he was a liberal, but she said that the congressman who claims to know Colbert best is convinced that he is a conservative.

Yeesh, are our representatives that dumb?

[---quote from Colbert saying]
Quote:

And then when I got to "The Daily Show," they asked me to have a political opinion--or rather Jon did. When Craig was there, it wasn't so political. Jon asked me to have a political opinion, and it turned out that I had one, but I didn't realize quite how liberal I was until I was asked to make passionate comedic choices as opposed to necessarily successful comedic choices.
A nice thing about Colbert is that he cared first about being funny and only explored his political ideas because it was part of the comic role he had taken. The passion was for comedy, not politics. That means he's not a natural politico. (I like people like that; I identify with them.) Forced to take a political position, he was surprised by how liberal he was.

Now, you could say, but the environment of "The Daily Show" is so liberal that perhaps an unpolitical person would falsely "discover" that he was a big liberal. Creating his own show, he embodied himself in a ridiculous conservative character. But why did he do that? Our Congressmen and -women are wondering! Maybe at some point, he saw that he was only a chameleon on "The Daily Show" and longed to express conservative opinions, so he created the "Colbert Report" character so he could say all those things and still not lose all his liberal friends.

Sorry, that's the best I can do in an effort to absolve our representatives of the charge of cluelessness.

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2006/05/who-is-clueless-enough-to-think.h
tml


Okay, let's see you rationalize THAT one away...

By the way, if anyone saw the video posted of Colbert at the White House Correspondent's Dinner, how could ANYONE think he was a serious Conserative (with Bush sitting--not standing as noted--right there)? Here's the full video, in two parts:

Part one:



Part two:




Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off




He'll NEVER be asked back again, you can bet! He gets away with things nobody else dares...that few feet away from Bush.

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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:03 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Here is a link to the OSU publication abstract. Not a hoax.

http://hij.sagepub.com/content/14/2/212.abstract

Stephen describes what I believe so convincingly... he must secretly believe what he's saying.

Or that actor plays a gay/straight guy so well, he must be gay/straight on the "inside."

I remember someone once said to James Spader, "Wow, you're a really nice guy. You're not an asshole!"

James Spader deadpans, "Yes, it's called acting."



There is a lot of projection and confirmation bias in this world.

--Can't Take (my gorram) Sky

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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:09 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I THINK that's the link I posted above to show it wasn't a hoax, or did my "copy/paste" abilities screw up again?

Anyway, watch both parts, if you have time; he doesn't just take Bush on, he nails some others REAL good, too!!! I forgot part 3:




Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off




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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 11:12 AM

DREAMTROVE


Actually, it's Onion 2, Fox 0, and possibly CNN 0. This happened before, but I can't remember if it was FOX or CNN that ran the Onion story unawares. This was like, maybe two years ago? I don't remember what the item was.

Our media folk is some kinda dumb.

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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 11:33 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


FOX isn't dumb; they don't give a shit. Facts are irrelevant, if the story fits their agenda. Anyone who hasn't realized that by now is self-deluded, and as we know, there are many. They're in it for two reasons and two reasons only: profits and ideology. They know how to work the game, and they work it excellently.

As for the rest of the MSM, yup, they can be damned stupid at times. The number of times idiocy--like the $200,000,000-a-day President's trip--gets passed around, touted on Fox as "news", unresearched, and then presented on MSM is insane. Somebody on an article I read called it something..."circular" something, and it has become that. Shows up on a blog somewhere, someone grabs it, especially if it's Fox they toss it out either as fact or "is it true...?" which infers fact, it gets repeated, eventually even the MSM "reports" it. It's disgusting.

[/rant]


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off




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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 12:26 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Actually I've seen this done WELL, before - and in a fashion chilling enough to have a real profound effect on the idea of blowing stuff up for political reasons, not that I was so sympathetic to it before.

This movie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Bulletin

I saw it in 1984 when the only disclaimers were padded in at the commercial breaks, and happened to initially catch it right AFTER one, so I was kinda horrified...

These days, though, as often as the propaganda ploys and button pushing have been used by the powers that be, you'd have trouble getting folks to take a REAL emergency seriously, and that concerns me some as well.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 12:28 PM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
I THINK that's the link I posted above to show it wasn't a hoax, or did my "copy/paste" abilities screw up again?

Oh right, you did paste it. I musta missed it. Sorry to post the link again.

--Can't Take (my gorram) Sky

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Tuesday, November 30, 2010 12:34 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Good heaven's, no apologies! Someone might click on your link who didn't see/click on mine, and I think it's meaningful (if hysterical) that it's no hoax.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off




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