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Custer's Last Stand flag sold at Antiques Roadshow

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Friday, December 17, 2010 4:51 AM

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A flag carried by Lt Col George Armstrong Custer and his 7th Cavalry troops into their last stand at the Battle of Little Bighorn has been sold at auction for $2.2m (£1.4m).

The guidon is the only one not captured or lost during the 1876 battle in the state of Montana.

The flag, previously valued at $5m, was bought by a private US collector in the auction at Sotheby's in New York.

The former owner, Detroit Institute of Arts, paid $54 for the flag in 1895.

"We'll be using the proceeds to strengthen our collection of Native American art, which has a rather nice irony to it I think," said Graham Beal, director of the Detroit museum.

Lt Col Custer and all his soldiers - more than 200 in number - were killed by thousands of Lakota Sioux and Northern Cheyenne warriors during their attempt to reclaim the Black Hills region from the Lakota as part of a US government campaign.

The flag was found beneath a dead American soldier following the Battle of Little Bighorn - or the Battle of Greasy Grass Creek, as the victors of the battle named it.

The flag was renamed Culbertson Guidon after Sgt Ferdinand Culbertson, a member of the burial party who recovered it from the field.

Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse were among the Lakota leaders who fought in the battle.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11974405

Lakota Nation's $850 gold coin for Custer Massacre hero Sitting Bull
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Friday, December 17, 2010 5:11 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

I stood on that ground. There's nothing there. Nothing around for miles and miles.

What a waste.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, December 17, 2010 5:40 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I stood on that ground. There's nothing there. Nothing around for miles and miles.

What a waste.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

Hello,

At the time, resources deemed valuable to the nation were discovered in the region. This was seen as a sufficient reason to violate a sovereign nation and murder the locals.

--Anthony

Assured by friends that the signal-to-noise ratio has improved on this forum, I have disabled web filtering.

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Friday, December 17, 2010 6:17 AM

HERO

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I stood on that ground. There's nothing there. Nothing around for miles and miles.

What a waste.

I blame the Indians. If Custer had won or the Indians had submitted that wasteland would be filled with suburban development. Homes, schools and Little Bighorn State University where a young man would have certainly discovered the cure for cancer.

So no cure for cancer...because of the Indians.

H

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Friday, December 17, 2010 7:06 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

At the time, resources deemed valuable to the nation were discovered in the region. This was seen as a sufficient reason to violate a sovereign nation and murder the locals.

--Anthony

Now where have I heard that before? ;)

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Friday, December 17, 2010 8:44 AM

RAHLMACLAREN

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Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:

At the time, resources deemed valuable to the nation were discovered in the region. This was seen as a sufficient reason to violate a sovereign nation and murder the locals.

--Anthony

Now where have I heard that before? ;)

*Iraq-ing cough*

Pardon.

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Friday, December 17, 2010 9:25 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Anthony

No, there wasn't & isn't anything there. It's as desolate as it was the day those young men took each other's lives. Dunno if you've had the opportunity to visit a battle field... Just offering a reflective comment, is all.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, December 17, 2010 11:30 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

I've seen a few. Not as many as I'd like.

The principal thing there were natives. That was the object of the thrust. Kill the natives, bring them to heel. The attacking general (military commander) hastened to do so, with an inflated sense of his power and a deficient sense of his enemies' power.

The object of the war was Gold. Gold lies in the black hills, if not specifically on the patch of land where the battle was fought.

The land might have been a desert. The gold might have been yellow or black. The age might have been one century or another.

It is not the land that is desolate or was. It was the souls of men.

This is my reflection, for yours.

--Anthony

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Friday, December 17, 2010 2:39 PM

KWICKO

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A suggestion for your space:
"Never get involved in a land war in Asia."

I'm thinking "Free Tibet - While Supplies Last!"

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Friday, December 17, 2010 2:55 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Anthony -

I "get" the bigger meaning you're trying for here, I really do. But MY point, was more specific to the individuals who died there, and looking around, under that big sky, with very little in sight, anywhere....

I guess it was a " you had to be there " moment, which I should have kept to myself.

Never mind.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:00 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I stood on that ground. There's nothing there. Nothing around for miles and miles.

What a waste.

At the time, there was everything the tribes needed to live. Water, grass for their pony herd, buffalo, dried buffalo dung for fires. They would set up in one spot for a few days until the grass was gone, and then move a few miles upstream. In a country with no communications, no reliable maps, and terrain that could hide a huge village from someone a mile away, the biggest problem the army had in the "Indian" wars was finding someone to fight.

Just finished reading The Last Stand by Nathaniel Philbrick. Interesting take on the personalities involved, the events that occurred, and the backbiting and political in-fighting.

Did you know that during the 1868-1870 period, Custer followed what was described as "a nervy, verging on suicidal, policy of diplomacy." with the Cheyenne, traveling with only an interpretor to hostile villages and convincing them to return to agencies and reservations, even when his officers thought it was too dangerous and wanted to attack?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Wednesday, December 22, 2010 9:24 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER

Isn't it funny that some people still refer to Custers Last Stand as a Massacre. Seems he was fully armed and ready to do "battle" (or to attack the smaller encampment that he could see at the edge of the valley) with the Natives. I'm sure he would have regrouped and met up with the other forces in the area had he seen the huge encampment of multi-tribe forces. Oh the strides we would have made with a hero like Custer as President.

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Wednesday, December 22, 2010 12:31 PM

KWICKO

Well, it pretty much WAS a massacre - just not quite in the direction Custer had hoped it would be.

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