So, the US has fired 100 + tomahawk cruise missiles at Libya... by AURaptor

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So, the US has fired 100 + tomahawk cruise missiles at Libya...

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Saturday, March 26, 2011 3:44 AM

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Originally posted by MRSCOBB:
They may have the background in the "humanitarian" sector, but these guys are mostly Infantry and Expeditionary forces. Aka-The guys who make stuff go boom.

Would it be so far fetched to think that this administration would send such military folk just to hand out MRE's and bottled water ?

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To be quite honest, I can't see them sending over 2,000 Marines to sit in the Mediterranean and look pretty.

But Barry said... no troops. Which means no troops, right ?

Right ?

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Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:30 AM

RIONAEIRE

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MRS. Cobb I wish your sister safety on her deployment, that she comes home to you safe.

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Saturday, March 26, 2011 2:35 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by MRSCOBB:
They may have the background in the "humanitarian" sector, but these guys are mostly Infantry and Expeditionary forces. Aka-The guys who make stuff go boom.

Would it be so far fetched to think that this administration would send such military folk just to hand out MRE's and bottled water ?

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To be quite honest, I can't see them sending over 2,000 Marines to sit in the Mediterranean and look pretty.

But Barry said... no troops. Which means no troops, right ?

Right ?

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

Well, Dubya said "WMD", and look how that turned out, right?

Right?

"No boots on the ground" was a lie the second that F-15E augered in. We had U.S. boots on the ground, followed by search and rescue teams putting MORE troops in Libya.

Anyone who's stupid enough to think that there's any such thing as a pushbutton war with no dirty work really does need to have their head examined. Or they should join the military and join the fun.

MRSCOBB: My condolences on your son joining the military.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, March 26, 2011 2:56 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Well, Dubya said "WMD", and look how that turned out, right?

Right?

So, what's your point ?

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"No boots on the ground" was a lie the second that F-15E augered in. We had U.S. boots on the ground, followed by search and rescue teams putting MORE troops in Libya.

Come on. Even you can't be serious as to believe that. Why even make such an asinine statement ? Why ?

Advisors ? Spotters ? Spooks ? Are these considered 'boots on the ground ' ? I think most folks would agree that such terminology is reserved for actual combat troops, infantry, and the like. I don't doubt we have 'someone' on the ground, just not elements of the 1st Armored Division.

Yet.

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Anyone who's stupid enough to think that there's any such thing as a pushbutton war with no dirty work really does need to have their head examined. Or they should join the military and join the fun.

MRSCOBB: My condolences on your son joining the military.

I guess Obama needs his head examined then.

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Saturday, March 26, 2011 3:22 PM

KWICKO

MRSCOBB: Sorry, I misread, and thought you were talking about your son being in the military.

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Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:57 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Raptor, you're splitting hairs ridiculously. I have no doubt we have people IN THE MILITARY somewhere in Libya, but everyone understands "no boots on the ground" means no military troops going openly and in force to battle someone on the ground of that nation. The vernacular is understood by everyone with half a brain, and trying to parse it to mean something else is sad rationalization.

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Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:30 AM

AURAPTOR

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Niki -

Then tell it to Kwickie, not me.

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"No boots on the ground" was a lie the second that F-15E augered in. We had U.S. boots on the ground, followed by search and rescue teams putting MORE troops in Libya.

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Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:47 AM

KWICKO

The point being - and what Rappy missed, not because he didn't "get it", but simply because he CHOSE to misunderstand - that there's no such thing as a war or military action that DOESN'T put troops on the ground. It's a myth, the idea that you can militarily invade or take over a country from a distance.

Sure, we have "advisers" there... yeah, right. Heard that before, a time or seven. We had "advisers" at the Bay of Pigs, in Viet Nam, Laos, Cambodia, Korea, Somalia, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Panama, Grenada... Anywhere the "advisers" start, troops invariably follow.

The only ones stupid enough to believe otherwise are those who join up to be cannon fodder and those who cheerlead every war. We all know which kind Rappy is...

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Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:20 AM

AURAPTOR

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Kwickie - You're beyond a complete and total idiot.

That, or you simply can't read.

I stated exactly what you just said, w/regards to spooks, advisors and such. I even went so far as to spell it out for you AND NIKI, and yet the both of you are still squabbling over absolutely nothing.

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Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:23 AM

KWICKO

So you agree that we do indeed have boots on the ground in Libya. Thanks for clarifying!

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Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:29 AM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
So you agree that we do indeed have boots on the ground in Libya. Thanks for clarifying!

I'll repeat this again, since you obviously didn't read it the first time....

Advisors ? Spotters ? Spooks ? Are these considered 'boots on the ground ' ? I think most folks would agree that such terminology is reserved for actual combat troops, infantry, and the like. I don't doubt we have 'someone' on the ground, just not elements of the 1st Armored Division.

Now, you and Niki may enter into the Thunder-dome, and fight amongst yourselves. I've said my piece.

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Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:41 AM

KWICKO

Yes, and I pointed out that wherever we've put advisers, we've invariably followed with troops. Obama said no troops on the ground, which you seem to support his view on, and I say there's no military action that DOESN'T involve troops on the ground.

We have boots on the ground now, and we'll add more. Mark my words.

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