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NATO takes over

POSTED BY: NIKI2
UPDATED: Monday, March 28, 2011 14:45
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Monday, March 28, 2011 11:51 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


How much or little this really means, I don't know. But publicly at least, "we've" pulled back and NATO is in charge, as of today:
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Brussels, Belgium (CNN) -- NATO's North Atlantic Council on Sunday approved an operations plan that will shift the entire Libyan military mission to alliance command, officials said, easing the burden on the United States and its allies to protect civilians in the war-torn country.

NATO ambassadors unanimously approved a so-called "no-fly plus" plan that will put the alliance in charge of protecting civilians as well as enforcing a no-fly zone and an arms embargo.

"Our goal is to protect civilians and civilian-populated areas under threat of attack from the Gadhafi regime," NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said. "NATO will implement all aspects of the U.N. resolution. Nothing more, nothing less."

All alliance members will have to abide by the rules of engagement approved Sunday, albeit with caveats that may allow some nations not to participate in operations in Libya. However, it is assumed that none of these nations will prevent other alliance members from executing the military plan and rules of engagement that were approved.

A senior U.S. administration official spoke to reporters soon after the announcement.

He stressed the NATO mission is to protect civilians and did not rule out the possibility of an attack on the rebels if they were to go on the offensive and strike cities with civilian populations, now held by pro-Gadhafi forces.

The official also said he expected more countries to participate in the Libyan mission now that NATO has assumed command of it. He praised the speed with which the group of 28 allies reached a consensus.

The office of British Prime Minister David Cameron similarly cheered the news of a NATO agreement.

"NATO is already enforcing the arms embargo and the no-fly zone. Today's agreement to transfer complete command and control of all military operations to NATO both ensures that partners from the region are able to participate and represents a significant step forward as we plan for the next phase of this vital mission," it read.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/27/libya.nato/index.html

Whether this is just for show or for real, seems to me as a member state of NATO, we'll still be involved, won't we?

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Monday, March 28, 2011 11:55 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


After putting up a billion $'s in ordinance and jet fuel...

Sounds fair.



(Libya )... it was not a vital national interest to the United States. - Sec Def Gates. March 27, 2011.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, March 28, 2011 11:57 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


You're such an ass, Raptor. You dog my posts, and I swear, if I were to put up a thread saying "the sky is blue", you'd find some way to deny that and use it as an excuse to diss Obama, liberals, Democrats, etc.

And we ALL know that if Obama had done nothing, people would have been screaming about not doing anything about the slaughter; if he'd taken his time about it, people would have screamed about the delay...and we all know who those people are, don't we? No matter WHAT he did, you and those of your ilk desperately need a way to make it bad.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Monday, March 28, 2011 12:10 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2: No matter WHAT he did, you and those of your ilk desperately need a way to make it bad.


Gee... wonder where we got THAT idea.

Face facts, Niki, this kinetic Libya operation has folks on BOTH sides scratching their head. Left AND Right. Hell, some Lefties want Obama to give his Nobel prize back.

Obama's own SecDef said it wasn't a vital interest. You gonna bitch at ME for what Gates said ?




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, March 28, 2011 12:15 PM

DREAMTROVE


It means he's a fucking coward. Big surprise.

Obama, not Auraptor. The reality behind these NATO missions is that the US runs them anyway, but we get to shift the blame, and claim that it wasn't us. This is largely not because the admin. Is afraid of failure, but because they don't want to answer to their own base as to why they're invading a sovereign nation against the wishes of the majority 53% according to left-biased MSNBC and 83% according to right biased FOX.) I think thats a fair partisan breakdown on this one. Obama knows his voters oppose this move, so he doesn't want to accept responsibility for it. So reminiscent of Clinton.

My opinion? We're invading to add Lybia to MEFTA and the WTO, but frankly, Qaddafi is not our problem. Yet we funded a rebellion, and now we're bombing.

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Monday, March 28, 2011 2:43 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Heck, it has Newt Gingrich scratching BOTH sides of his head, as he struggles to flip-flop from one position to another!

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Monday, March 28, 2011 2:45 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
You're such an ass, Raptor. You dog my posts, and I swear, if I were to put up a thread saying "the sky is blue", you'd find some way to deny that and use it as an excuse to diss Obama, liberals, Democrats, etc.

And we ALL know that if Obama had done nothing, people would have been screaming about not doing anything about the slaughter; if he'd taken his time about it, people would have screamed about the delay...and we all know who those people are, don't we? No matter WHAT he did, you and those of your ilk desperately need a way to make it bad.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off






Yup. And if you put up a Brian Cox spoof, Rappy will say something that has fuck-all to do with the show or the post, and then insist that he knows more than you about that, too.

Rappy's what we call a 3-ball. If someone were to say that they had two balls, Rappy would insist that HE has THREE!

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