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My last day of work at the World Trade Center was September 10, 2001. I remember turning around, looking at a lone guitarist playing near that fountain with the Globe sculpture, it was a beautiful Monday night, around 9 pm. I had worked late, so I was going to show up late to work on Tuesday. I woke up to my phone ringing off the hook. I lost my job, but compared to what others lost, I lost nothing.

The people who died that day were liberal and conservative, but all were American. Bin Laden hated us all, just because we were American. So please, no political games here. This isn't about left and right, this is about a cowardly attack on all of us, as Americans. As a hardcore liberal, I embrace my fellow Americans who are conservative on this good news for us all.

Come together, as Americans, left and right, lose the useless political snark and sniping, and celebrate this asshole's death. Good fucking riddance.

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It's in the fuck koran for Christ's sake! They have a waiver on any sin when it comes to fucking over infidels. Lie, cheat, steal, kill, screw over, it's all good with their Imams.

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Originally posted by Kirkules:

I love it when the libs here show their true colors, they hate America so much the excuse the murder of 3000 Americans.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Would you like a shovel with that load of bolus ?

He didn't hate us "because we were american", he hated us cause we fucked him and his country over, broke our promises, left em swinging in the breeze when the Soviets pulled out, on top of a long history of exploitation and abuse going back well over fifty years.

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There's also no evidence linking him to the events of 9-11, for a fact he denied it and as much shit as he liked talking - cause I'll give you that he really was a murderous dick and showboating asswipe, I can't see him not takin credit for it if he had anything at all to DO with it..

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Originally posted by Hardware:
Sometimes you run into a post so good that you need to just spread it as far as you can.

This comes from Slashdot, in a thread regarding the death of Osama Bin Laden.

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circletimessquare wrote;

The people who died that day were liberal and conservative, but all were American.

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Ahem, actually not true.


Apart from the approximately 2,669 United States casualties, 372 foreign nationals (excluding the nineteen perpetrators), representing just over 10% of the total number of deaths, also perished in the attacks. The following is a list of their nationalities (not accounting for some cases of dual citizenship). By far the foreign country with the largest loss of life was the United Kingdom, with 67 deaths (including the overseas territory of Bermuda). India lost 41, South Korea lost 28 and Canada and Japan lost 24 each. Colombia lost seventeen and Jamaica, Mexico and the Philippines lost sixteen each. Australia and Germany lost eleven each, while Italy lost ten.
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Come together, as Americans, left and right, lose the useless political snark and sniping, and celebrate this asshole's death.

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Originally posted by SignyM:

It might have been better to bring him to trial.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Well, dead men tell no tales.

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Originally posted by peacekeeper:
What strikes me as rather strange, is that a vast superpower nation such as the USA, is throwing a big party because they have taken 10 years to kill ONE Man. Do you think that the whole Islamic terrorist shit is now going to collapse and fold because Bin Laden is dead? Is there no more organisation below Bin Laden?
I'm sorry, but your Government is easily pleased.
The fact that just one bloke's death can cause massive chants of "USA" in the streets is a pretty poor indication of how desperate you are to achieve a victory.
I'm shedding no tears over his death, but partying in the streets over one man???It's a pretty pathetic effort IMO.


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And lay off the 'one man' nonsense. Hitler was ' one man'. Saddam was 'one man'. Iraqis danced in the streets when he was caught... .Usama is the face of modern day evil. Any time that good defeats evil, is a very good thing.

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Originally posted by SignyM:

It's that whole libertarian fantasy of "the individual"; like Ayn Rand's protagonists. Anything that we do that is significant, we do collectively. A lone individual doesn't have enough power. They may as well be jacking off in a corner.

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Hmm. I thought this thread was turning into flamebait, maybe it wasn't.

The gatherings and jubilation seem a little much, not that I could or would have prevented them. Reminded me of some of the celebrations in the Middle East whenever America gets some bad luck.

Sometimes it almost seems like people lack awareness of what people on their own side are doing, and how something like this could provoke and perpetuate feud violence.

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Hmm. I thought this thread was turning into flamebait, maybe it wasn't.

The gatherings and jubilation seem a little much, not that I could or would have prevented them. Reminded me of some of the celebrations in the Middle East whenever America gets some bad luck.

Sometimes it almost seems like people lack awareness of what people on their own side are doing, and how something like this could provoke and perpetuate feud violence.

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I'm trying to think of a time when this sort of spontaneous celebration has occurred. Other than New Yorkers and in D.C., I don't know that there was much in the way of open celebration. There wasn't wide spread talk of it on FB, least not that I saw. But I'm not all that heavy into FB or Twitter....


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Originally posted by Hardware:
Oh yes, how tragic. We're the big bad Americans. We feel so guilty because we can actually make our systems work.

Sorry, time for you children to WAKE THE FUCK UP.

OBL and a whole bunch of his sand-workshipping kinsmen would love to kill you, and your children and run your women off to slavery.

It's in the fuck koran for Christ's sake! They have a waiver on any sin when it comes to fucking over infidels. Lie, cheat, steal, kill, screw over, it's all good with their Imams.

So, if you want me to apologize because we stomped the life out of a cockroach, you're going to be waiting a long, long time.

The only regret I have is that they didn't throw his body to the hogs.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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It's in the fuck koran for Christ's sake! They have a waiver on any sin when it comes to fucking over infidels. Lie, cheat, steal, kill, screw over, it's all good with their Imams.

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Jews too. The same thing is in the OT. And look at our Crusades, and the way we wiped out native populations for God, gold, and glory. All part of that lovely militaristic Judeo-Xtian-Muslim heritage.

BTW- Not apologizing at all. But WTF are we doing in THEIR countries? How would YOU feel if the Saudis decided they would set up an army base in Texas, and then took over Washington and rewrote our laws to be acceptable to them? Goose sauce= gander sauce, no?

Hardware, as an exercise in logic why don't you try re-framing things? For example, in anti-abortion discussions, every time you read the word "abortion" substitute "war" or "death penalty". In discussions about "terrorists", every time you read the word "terrorist" substitute the phrase "American military" or "police". You might see that the same arguments and logic apply in different contexts. Perhaps, logically, there is no separation.

FWIW I'm relieved that he's dead. That is one less boogeyman to hype people up with. But I don't kid myself that this spells an end to jihadism specifically or terrorism in general.

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Originally posted by Kirkules:
I think after a rocky start Barak Obama has come to the realization that when it comes to the war on Islamist terror the Bush administration had it right for the most part. Bush fell short on persuing terorists in Pakistan while Obama has done so admirably.

I love it when the libs here show their true colors, they hate America so much the excuse the murder of 3000 Americans. Its makes me sick, but I've come to expect it from the sick fucks here.

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Originally posted by peacekeeper:
What strikes me as rather strange, is that a vast superpower nation such as the USA, is throwing a big party because they have taken 10 years to kill ONE Man. Do you think that the whole Islamic terrorist shit is now going to collapse and fold because Bin Laden is dead? Is there no more organisation below Bin Laden?
I'm sorry, but your Government is easily pleased.
The fact that just one bloke's death can cause massive chants of "USA" in the streets is a pretty poor indication of how desperate you are to achieve a victory.
I'm shedding no tears over his death, but partying in the streets over one man???It's a pretty pathetic effort IMO.


Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
Well I'm glad he's dead. And the celebrating (not that much in the grand scheme of things, just in New York and DC as has been said) makes sense to me, I think people are feeling closure, maybe even a closure that they didn't know they were looking for in some cases, I felt it and I didn't know I would, or that I was seeking it, I didn't know until it happened. I like the comradery I see in the news footage of people at the White House etc. Call me whatever you want I don't rightly care.

Byte's point is worth considering though, it feels good to celebrate and have said comradery as countrymen, but will it lead to more trouble for our warriors? It may, which bothers me. But I don't think we can stop spontaneous jubilation, so we'll have to handle things as they come.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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One man ranting about evil Jewish bankers would simply be a lonely soapbox orator without the cooperation of millions.

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Pirate News has the cooperation of millions?

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Each and every time Fidel Castro has died, sneezed, or been hospitalized, Miami experiences a similar celebration.

I've seen it enough times that it makes me a bit sad.

--Anthony

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Each and every time Fidel Castro has died, sneezed, or been hospitalized, Miami experiences a similar celebration.

I've seen it enough times that it makes me a bit sad.

--Anthony

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Likely they were celebrating the death of the one who killed their siblings, parents and or grandparents, as he took their land.

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That zealots follow leaders like Hitler, Saddam or Usama, has nothing to do w/ what Ayn Rand was talking about, at all.

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Originally posted by peacekeeper:
What strikes me as rather strange, is that a vast superpower nation such as the USA, is throwing a big party because they have taken 10 years to kill ONE Man. Do you think that the whole Islamic terrorist shit is now going to collapse and fold because Bin Laden is dead? Is there no more organisation below Bin Laden?
I'm sorry, but your Government is easily pleased.
The fact that just one bloke's death can cause massive chants of "USA" in the streets is a pretty poor indication of how desperate you are to achieve a victory.
I'm shedding no tears over his death, but partying in the streets over one man???It's a pretty pathetic effort IMO.


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I wasn't aware this became a national holiday. I certainly wasn't let out of work for it. Not that I would want to celebrate another person's death, regardless of how evil I considered them. Still, I get your point. It wasn't a royal wedding after all

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What strikes me as rather strange, is that a vast superpower nation such as the USA, is throwing a big party because they have taken 10 years to kill ONE Man. Do you think that the whole Islamic terrorist shit is now going to collapse and fold because Bin Laden is dead? Is there no more organisation below Bin Laden?
I'm sorry, but your Government is easily pleased.
The fact that just one bloke's death can cause massive chants of "USA" in the streets is a pretty poor indication of how desperate you are to achieve a victory.
I'm shedding no tears over his death, but partying in the streets over one man???It's a pretty pathetic effort IMO.


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Did nobody in England celebrate when Hitler's death was announced?

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That zealots follow leaders like Hitler, Saddam or Usama, has nothing to do w/ what Ayn Rand was talking about, at all.

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Oh? I thought you were HER zealot! My bad.

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Good one. I lol'd. :)

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I'm surprised someone actually got it, rather than thinking that I simply misread the post. I was expecting a rant from someone, but they're too busy bickering like an old married polygamous couple (imagine the nightmare ) to notice that I was here at all. Maybe it's time we started seeing other forums

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Hey Pakistan, I know you think you're being cute when you say that it was your intelligence that led to the death of Bin Laden, but you might want to stop drawing attention to yourself while we go over Bin Laden's little black book of friends.

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I'm pretty sure that they did. But Hitler's death signalled the end of a world war, and he was a man that had total political power in that. The death of OBL signifies the end of nothing.This war will carry on and possibly escalate VERY soon.No comparison whatsoever.

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Did nobody in England celebrate when Hitler's death was announced?

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I'm pretty sure that they did. But Hitler's death signalled the end of a world war, and he was a man that had total political power in that. The death of OBL signifies the end of nothing.This war will carry on and possibly escalate VERY soon.No comparison whatsoever.

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I think you're misremembering your history. Unless you believe that Japan surrendered the day Hitler died. As I remember it, the war carried on for quite some time after Hitler died. In fact, it escalated to a nuclear war!

If anyone expected that the death of Bin Laden would equate to the end of all terrorism, I'd have to ask them if the death of Hitler signaled an end to all Nazism. Or an end to Germans.

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