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US government says small gun shops selling guns across border as they arm the cartels

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Wednesday, June 1, 2011 5:40 AM

HARDWARE


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/28/americas-war-arming-mexican-carte
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If you ever watch video or look at pictures of the drug war in Mexico, you'll notice some pretty heavy weapons. This is a war being waged with rockets and plastic explosives, not pea shooters and Saturday Night Specials. Consider these incidents:
- A M26A2 fragmentation grenade used against a U.S. Consulate in Mexico in 2008
- Explosive projectiles and 21 grenades found during a raid in Guadalupe
- An unexploded grenade and pull ring used to attack a TV station in Monterrey
- Automatic weapons, including U.S.-made M16s, found at a cartel crime scene in May 2009
- U.S. military-issued ammunition found in a cartel raid in Reynosa in November 2008
You can't buy this stuff at a U.S. gun store. So where do the cartels get it? According to leaked diplomatic cables, there are three sources.
1. U.S. Defense Department shipments to Latin America, known and tracked by the U.S. State Department as "foreign military sales."
2. Weapons ordered by the Mexican government, tracked by the State Department as "direct commercial sales."
3. Aging, but plentiful arsenals of military weapon stores in Honduras, Guatemala and Nicaragua.
Even though these facts were well-known by the Obama administration, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Attorney General Eric Holder, it blamed much of the violence in Mexico on U.S. gun stores.
"More than 90 percent of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States, many from gun shops that line our border," President Obama said in February 2009.



Anybody who knows anything about guns could have told you the stuff in the dog and pony shows of the guns rounded up in Mexico are not being sold in US gun shows or gun shops.

At least now it is out in the mainstream. I wonder if the other government mouthpieces,.. err, news organizations will pick this up?

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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Wednesday, June 1, 2011 8:44 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



If the MSM had any credibility, they'd be holding AG Holder's feet to the fire.

But what do we hear ?

Crickets.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, June 1, 2011 8:54 AM

BYTEMITE


...Well, guys, there's your proof that they really are after your guns. There's not a whole lot of other policies a statement like that could lead to.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2011 9:22 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


The BATFE (and their liby-prog-soci friends) are PISSED that folks found out about "GunRunner" and "Project: Fast and Furious" (look it up)

After all, they were trying to use these programs as an EXSCUSE to implement gun control.. again.

Oh hell. Since these assclowns won't bother looking it up... might as well post it myself.

Want something done right, etc..

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/03/eveningnews/main20039031.sht
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Gunrunner

God Bless the NRA for helping to expose this.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"



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Wednesday, June 1, 2011 6:52 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Hell, did y'all just now figure that out? I posted about it a couple years ago, in pointing out that the things the cartels are being accused of buying at Texas gun shows simply ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR ANY KIND OF LEGAL SALE AT GUN SHOWS.

I also pointed out that this DOESN'T mean that the U.S. isn't the main source of cartel weapons - it just means that they aren't being sold to Mexico by mom-n-pop gun shops. I postulated that they were coming from law enforcement or the military here.


"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Wednesday, June 1, 2011 10:40 PM

FREMDFIRMA



No shit sherlock, between us, the russians and the chinese - we're arms merchants to the world at large, and we ship tons of guns to fascist-friendly jackasses in south and central america, always have, many of whom have links to the cartels which we ignore cause if we can prop them up in power they'll let us loot their country - duh.

Not to mention certain of our so-called protectors, our own alphabet goons, with full access to military hardware and no oversight or accountability, have a tendancy to directly arm the goddamn cartels right from US Military stores, since not only do they bleed us dry for their so-called "protection", but also supplement their budgets quite heavily from drug money.

This is WHY the "war on (some) drugs" is set up to fail in the first place, and legalization is abhorrent to them, because without the de-facto prohibition (which didn't work the first time and no one seems to have learned the lesson) there would be insufficient PROFIT involved - it's a lucrative business from both ends, with a side order of largess from weapons dealing.
Hell, some of those confiscated weapons go right back into inventory and get sold right back to the fuckers, never think otherwise - so it's win-win all the way down the line for the bastards supposedly "protecting" us, which are in fact a greater threat to us and our freedoms than any external force.

To be blunt, if american gun shops WERE supplying the cartels in any material fashion, the BATFE would come down on them with both boots, not for any moral/legal reason, but rather to eliminate the competition!

Our so-called protectors are a problem masquerading as it's own solution, is what it is, and it's long past time we stood up and dealt with that.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Thursday, June 2, 2011 3:43 PM

RIONAEIRE

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Why am I not surprised.

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