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Free Speech Violation: Park Ranger Orders Visitor to Leave National Military Park, Citing Objection to Ron Paul Decals on Car
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Oakland, the Patriot Act and Osama bin Laden : Indybay

RaiseTheFist.com

The feds claim that Osama bin Laden was involved in the catastrophe that occurred at the World Trade Center, and other locations on September 11, 2001, and further claimed that the fascist draconian legislation passed that is called the Patriot Act, would solve our problems.

That was around 10 years ago, and the war machine is still running full steam ahead on a global scale, wasting trillions of dollars on death and destruction, spilling blood all around the planet.

Then they said Osama bin Laden was killed on Monday May 2nd, 2011, and the hype has gone on non stop in the main stream press since the evening President Obama got on the air waves and publicly made the case, that Osama bin Laden was killed by an American death squad.

The White House could not keep it's story straight, and differing versions of what allegedly happened to Osama bin Laden was quickly leaked to the press, including the claim that Osama bin Laden was immediately buried at sea.

During the past three weeks, the main stream Bay Area media covered the Osama bin Laden issue like some crazed mad dog cheer leaders pushing the public over and over again to celebrate the existence of the death squad involved in the so-called killing, of Osama bin Laden.

They call this journalism.

The death squad celebrations are still being promoted by the so-called journalists and newscasters in the local news rooms of Channel 2, Channel 4, Channel 5, Channel 7, Channel 9, and Channel 11, and this madness has been broadcast as the news for the past three weeks.

Perhaps there should be some debate about the draconian Patriot Act thats to be voted on soon. A mature discussion on how it should be allowed to die, and rest in peace after ten years of wreaking havoc on the civil rights of people in America, and around the world.

There is no need to extend the Patriot Act for another four years. The Patriot Act needs to die and rest in peace, now that Osama bin Laden has allegedly been killed.

Mission Accomplished.

Fact or fiction, see Osama bin Laden links below...

http://www.raisethefist.com/?Oakland,_the_Patriot_Act_and_Osama_bin_La
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Public libraries are also much better sources of explosives information than the pathetic Reclaim Guide. Even CNN is happy to share a pipe bomb recipe with curious readers, apparently without legal repercussions. And there is extensive information available under "explosives" at HowStuffWorks.com, including information on the construction of nuclear weapons. Again, perfectly legal. And the Wikipedia (an online encyclopedia) gives a much better recipe for a Molotov cocktail than the Reclaim Guide version.

What distinguishes Sherman Austin's copy of the Reclaim Guide from my copy, or from material offered by Amazon.com or CNN or HowStuffWorks.com, or any good university library?

Austin's crucial mistake would seem to be allowing the explosives information to appear on the same web site as his anarchist protest rhetoric. (And the Reclaim Guide itself makes explicit reference to a IMF/World Bank meeting that was scheduled to take place in Washington, DC.) Hosting the bomb-making information on a separate web site, with no suggestion as to how it should be used, would probably have shielded him from prosecution.

See Leslie Kendrick's Virginia Law Review article on "criminally instructuctional speech", which includes discussion of the Austin case and the legality of mirrors.

http://www.virginialawreview.org/content/pdfs/91/1973.pdf

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Hmm. But what are these "amendments" that Rand Paul wants added?

Boy is a far cry from his father, he's making it so the puppet masters win either way. Amendments do us no good. The only thing that does us any good is if they repeal the damn thing or let it expire.

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Reid Preempts Paul, Slips Patriot Act in Small Business Bill

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
May 25, 2011

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has circumvented a call by the newly elected senator from Kentucky, Rand Paul, to debate the Patriot Act.

In order to prevent a filibuster, Reid performed “some procedural gymnastics,” according to Fox News, and slipped Patriot Act language into a House small business bill that is considered filibuster-proof.

In doing so, Reid has skirted objections to the bill led by Paul and has moved closer to extending the Patriot Act without debate. Democrats have applauded this effort to rush the extension into law without debate.

“The suggestion that the extension should be debated fueled considerable opposition, particularly from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D – CA), who insisted it would be a ‘huge mistake’ to debate the bill and might threaten national security,” writes Jason Ditz.

On Monday, Paul went on the floor of the Senate and argued against the extension. He introduced the Leahy-Paul amendment which would have National Security Letters expire on December 31, 2013. It also requires the Justice Department inspector general to audit the issuance of NSL letters and expands public reporting on the use of such letters under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

The National Security Letter provision of the Patriot Act directly assaults the Fourth Amendment. It expands the FBI’s authority to demand personal customer records from Internet Service Providers, financial institutions and credit companies without prior court approval.

http://www.infowars.com/reid-preempts-paul-slips-patriot-act-in-small-
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Originally posted by Bytemite:

Hmm. But what are these "amendments" that Rand Paul wants added?

Boy is a far cry from his father, he's making it so the puppet masters win either way. Amendments do us no good. The only thing that does us any good is if they repeal the damn thing or let it expire.

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Originally posted by dmaanlileiltt:
You sure like the sound of your own voice. Or the sight of your own typing.

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Actually, I was asking because I didn't know, and I was expecting a scam, like I expect from all politicians.

...The 4th amendment already exists. Those protections should already exist. The Patriot Act apparently violates the fourth amendment, otherwise it wouldn't necessitate the addition. We don't need repetition in law like chronic echolalia in order to uphold any ideals we live by, we just need to stop passing the laws that violate them.

My point still stands that it would just be easier to uphold the constitution and Bill of Rights amendments if they just dropped the Patriot Act. So why don't they?

Almost sounds to me like the language of the proposed amendment is to make getting warrants easier, and allow judges to issue warrants for more in-depth investigations of more frivolous suspicions. If a judge issues a warrant immediately without affadivits mentioned or implied (the "oath" mentioned in the fourth amendment) in the wording of the Patriot Act, then law enforcement can make up charges without fear of perjury.

I don't support passing draconian bullcrap with some mouth service claiming the government is looking out for our best interests. I'll only accept repealing it or expiring it.

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Reid Preempts Paul, Slips Patriot Act in Small Business Bill

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
May 25, 2011

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has circumvented a call by the newly elected senator from Kentucky, Rand Paul, to debate the Patriot Act.

In order to prevent a filibuster, Reid performed “some procedural gymnastics,” according to Fox News, and slipped Patriot Act language into a House small business bill that is considered filibuster-proof.

In doing so, Reid has skirted objections to the bill led by Paul and has moved closer to extending the Patriot Act without debate. Democrats have applauded this effort to rush the extension into law without debate.

“The suggestion that the extension should be debated fueled considerable opposition, particularly from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D – CA), who insisted it would be a ‘huge mistake’ to debate the bill and might threaten national security,” writes Jason Ditz.

On Monday, Paul went on the floor of the Senate and argued against the extension. He introduced the Leahy-Paul amendment which would have National Security Letters expire on December 31, 2013. It also requires the Justice Department inspector general to audit the issuance of NSL letters and expands public reporting on the use of such letters under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

The National Security Letter provision of the Patriot Act directly assaults the Fourth Amendment. It expands the FBI’s authority to demand personal customer records from Internet Service Providers, financial institutions and credit companies without prior court approval.

http://www.infowars.com/reid-preempts-paul-slips-patriot-act-in-small-
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Originally posted by Bytemite:

Hmm. But what are these "amendments" that Rand Paul wants added?

Boy is a far cry from his father, he's making it so the puppet masters win either way. Amendments do us no good. The only thing that does us any good is if they repeal the damn thing or let it expire.

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Paul's 71 page Amendment about library books:
http://leahy.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/AmendmentText-Leahy-PaulAmendmen
t.pdf

The Stamp Act allowed British soldiers to write their own search warrants to enter Colonial American homes, to search for Stamp Tax seals on all printed papers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stamp_Act_1765

British soldiers were allowed to seize and live in any home they wanted in the American Colonies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_independence

Just like the Feds do in Amerika today.

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Originally posted by dmaanlileiltt:
You sure like the sound of your own voice. Or the sight of your own typing.

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"

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-Tom Cruise, Taps

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Originally posted by dmaanlileiltt:
You sure like the sound of your own voice. Or the sight of your own typing.

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Yeah. :(

I'd like to think there's SOMEONE ethical out there who would try to stall it until it expires, maybe this "amendments" thing is that. But I'm too cynical to believe it.

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Actually, I was asking because I didn't know, and I was expecting a scam, like I expect from all politicians.

...The 4th amendment already exists. Those protections should already exist. The Patriot Act apparently violates the fourth amendment, otherwise it wouldn't necessitate the addition. We don't need repetition in law like chronic echolalia in order to uphold any ideals we live by, we just need to stop passing the laws that violate them.

My point still stands that it would just be easier to uphold the constitution and Bill of Rights amendments if they just dropped the Patriot Act. So why don't they?

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Almost sounds to me like the language of the proposed amendment is to make getting warrants easier, and allow judges to issue warrants for more in-depth investigations of more frivolous suspicions. If a judge issues a warrant immediately without affadivits mentioned or implied (the "oath" mentioned in the fourth amendment) in the wording of the Patriot Act, then law enforcement can make up charges without fear of perjury.

I don't support passing draconian bullcrap with some mouth service claiming the government is looking out for our best interests. I'll only accept repealing it or expiring it.

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Well, I'm always for contingency plans and back up strategies. Though I'm cautious here because if the supreme court were to backfire on us in striking down the Patriot Act, it would give it... legitimacy. *shudder*

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Rand Paul, avowed fascist cocksucker, said:

I'm not for profiling people on the color of their skin, or on their religion, but I would take into account where they've been traveling and perhaps, you might have to indirectly take into account whether or not they've been going to radical political speeches by religious leaders. It wouldn't be that they are Islamic. But if someone is attending speeches from someone who is promoting the violent overthrow of our government, that's really an offense that we should be going after -- they should be deported or put in prison.

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Rand Paul, avowed fascist cocksucker, said:

...but I would take into account where they've been traveling ...But if someone is attending speeches from someone who is promoting the violent overthrow of our government, that's really an offense that we should be going after -- they should be deported or put in prison.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Of course he MEANS it to apply to people like Anwar Al-Alakih (sp?), the radical Muslim cleric and American-born American citizen who has had a death warrant placed on him by the U.S. government, no trial needed.

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In Sept of last year, Adam Gadahn [aka Adam Perlman], the son of Jewish parents, the son of Jewish parents [who are on the board of directors of ADL] in Southern California, who himself converted to Islam, went on to become Osama Bin Laden's spokesman."
-Rep "Jihad" Jane Harman (D-CA), chairman, Homeland Security Subcommittee on Intelligence, Information Sharing, and Terrorism Risk Assessment, CSPAN, "Use of the Internet by Terrorists: Using the Web as a Weapon", November 6, 2007
http://www.piratenews.org/page2.html

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