ALERT: Japan confirms “full meltdown” at all 3 reactors by SignyM

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ALERT: Japan confirms “full meltdown” at all 3 reactors

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 19:32
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Monday, June 6, 2011 1:27 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Really??? Talk about news control!

"Fukushima: Twice As Bad As Thought — Japan gov’t more than doubles estimate for amount of radiation released after meltdown"

This has been the continuing story... obfuscate, delay, and deny. But when are they going to BURY them???

http://enenews.com/

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Monday, June 6, 2011 1:33 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Inconceivable !

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, June 6, 2011 1:51 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Can't say I'm surprised. A for-profit corporation lies and covers up the story, rather than let everyone know how badly fucked they are?

Yeah, that could never happen here, right?

Right?

Inconceivable, my ass.

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Monday, June 6, 2011 2:52 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Can't say I'm surprised. A for-profit corporation lies and covers up the story, rather than let everyone know how badly fucked they are?

Yeah, that could never happen here, right?

Right?

Inconceivable, my ass.

And governments are always above board, and answerable to the people?

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, June 6, 2011 3:51 PM

BYTEMITE

It does figure.

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Monday, June 6, 2011 4:01 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Of course it figures, it's how these things evolve...slowly, slowly so that the public has time to get used to the idea, things emerge. By the time they've fully emerged, most of the time peoples' attention has moved on.

I'm not the slightest bit surprised, just looking at the mess one had to wonder, and given how many lies had already come forth, the Japanese government saying things would be okay was laughable. Those poor people who weren't evacuated...

Watching a Law & Order episode, they were dating some wine and the tech said radition levels have changed since Hiroshima, etc. That made my ears perk up; if so, how much have they changed since Chernobyl? And now? We may be suiciding in other ways than those of which I was already aware. Shees...

Nonetheless, thanks for telling us; I hadn't caught that (yet) and might have missed it. Not that it matters in the greater scheme of things, I suppose.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Monday, June 6, 2011 4:12 PM

BYTEMITE

That's actually true. We also use radioactive tritium from Hiroshima to date ocean water as it sinks. This is still trace stuff though. Chernobyl radiation was mostly detected in milk about 40 km around where it happened. There was exposure outside that zone, of course, but much harder to correlate. Should be similar with Fukushima, though the amount of contamination, despite generally being blown by the westerlies, should also technically drop off some with distance. As I've said before, probably the big concern is sea food.

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Monday, June 6, 2011 5:40 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
As I've said before, probably the big concern is sea food.

And with the recent flooding, E coli crops and brain dead govt leaders using corn for ethanol, it's good thing we've got a bountiful ocean to go to for our food needs...

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, June 8, 2011 10:02 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Japan Admits “Worse Than Meltdown” — Nuclear “Melt-Through” In 3 Reactors
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/06/07/japan-admits-worse-meltdow
n-nuclear-meltthrough-3-reactors-23671/

Hot radioactive particles in Seattle at 50 percent of levels seen in Tokyo — Latches onto lung tissue
http://knucklz.com/2011/06/08/radiation-levels-in-seattle-only-50-perc
ent-less-than-in-tokyo.aspx

Fox News: OMG! Real Talk On Danger Of Radiation From Japanese Reactors In Meltdown
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=15263

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Wednesday, June 8, 2011 11:47 AM

BYTEMITE

PN's second article caught my eye.

I googled and I've been reading this thread to find out more about it.

http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/4459

Any additional amount of hot particles in the lungs could be problematic, so the calculations and discussions here-in do not dismiss anything.

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Wednesday, June 8, 2011 1:30 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

Meltdown? Why am I not surprised.

I guess what I want to know is if things could have been made less severe if the Japanese government had asked for help with the problem instead of sticking their heads in the sand. I know that is a cultural flaw of theirs, all cultures have flaws, but sometimes you've got to step out of your comfort zone for the good of the many. I note here that one of the pros of Japanese culture is that they value order and honorable behavior and thus there wasn't crazy looting behavior like there may have been in the US in a similar situation.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, June 8, 2011 7:00 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Yanno the thing that pisses me off? (well, ONE of the things anyway!)

Now that TEPCO and the Japanese government are finally coming clean.. cleanER, anyway, they're still understating the problem...

The IAEA and NRC are saying... Oh yeah, we knew that.

But didn't bother to tell anybody?

Like I've said more than once, I'm sure the IAEA and NRC knew, or could figure out, what the situation was. Heck, if hubby and I could... and we don't have their resources or background.... they probably had it figured out in a couple of days.

But they sat on the knowledge because... because???

Because their mandate is to "promote the 'peaceful' use of nuclear power"? Because they didn't want to embarrass Tepco and the Japanese government? Because they didn't want to roil the stock markets any more than necessary, or cost GE sales and profits?

So, while they sat on critical information, the people of Japan became irreversibly contaminated, and the entire northern hemisphere gets to deal with the fallout? It's not like this stuff goes away any time soon.

Criminy! Where are their priorities???

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Wednesday, June 8, 2011 7:32 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Up each others behinds?

I think on the whole people are extremely social, even sociopaths whose existence is tied to manipulating others. We constantly frame our perceptions socially and work our social agendas. It keeps us from seeing the impersonal.

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