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Comparing MyPlate to farm subsidies

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Friday, June 10, 2011 7:34 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Something that hadn't occurred to me in quite such detail, but probably should have:
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If the USDA says that vegetables and fruits should make up half of our diets, why does less than 1 percent of its food subsidies go to farmers who grow produce?

If you saw the movie “Food, Inc.,” you’re likely to remember the family of four who discovered eating at fast-food restaurants was more affordable than buying groceries. They were able to buy four hamburgers for less than it would cost them to buy four pieces of fruit.

The message was clear: Because beef and grains are highly subsidized by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, the price of the beef patty and bun can be kept low. Since fruit receives little of the USDA’s money, the price of fruit can be cost-prohibitive.

Last week, with the introduction of the USDA’s MyPlate brought this problem into focus. Half of the foods we should be eating should be fruit and vegetables, according the the the USDA. Yet, fruits and vegetables make up less than 1 percent of the foods that the USDA subsidizes. MyPlate puts dairy off to the side, diminishing its importance, and protein (which includes meat) is less than a quarter of the plate. Yet, 63 percent of the USDA subsidy budget goes to meat and dairy.

Nutritionist Andy Belatti, on his Small Bites blog, makes this spot-on observation.
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I don’t believe Americans are lacking knowledge or awareness that fruits and vegetables are healthy; the problem is that fruits and vegetables compete with artificially priced junk food in the marketplace. Lucky Charms and Trix are so cheap because they are made with crop subsidies; meat is cheap because cows are fed government-subsidized crops, and so on and so forth. Is My Plate suddenly going to make a pound of vegetables cost less, and a box of Lucky Charms cost more? Will My Plate turn food deserts into areas where residents can have access to healthy foods? No.
This is exactly the problem the family of four in “Food, Inc.” faced. The new MyPlate icon makes much better recommendations than the old food pyramid, but the reality is that the fruits and vegetables that should be filling our plates are still more expensive at the grocery store than the $1 burger from the fast-food restaurant.

I have to wonder if the USDA was expecting this discussion to pop up about the MyPlate recommendations vs. where the money goes. If it didn’t, there’s a lot of panicking going on at the USDA right now. If it did, perhaps Secretary Tom Vilsack and his staff hoped that this discussion would happen. Maybe they’re hoping that people get vocal — very vocal — about this disparity. It might make fixing the subsidies problem a lot easier for them if this discussion went viral and didn’t end.

Head over to the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine website and take a look at the MyPlate icon placed side by side with a graph of farm subsidies to get a true picture of the disparity. Discuss this disparity with people you know. Let’s keep this discussion going so that when it’s time for the farm bill to be voted on, Congress knows that we want subsidies for the right foods so that everyone can afford to eat nutritiously.

Right on. Another thing I think we should think about when it comes to subsidies and "reducing the deficit"

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Friday, June 10, 2011 5:53 PM

FREMDFIRMA


While there's good points to all that, I would reccommend heavily AGAINST trusting the "Physicians Committe for Responsible Medicine", as they're in truth a front group and pack of astroturfing shills.

As always, follow the money.
http://activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/o/23-physicians-comm
ittee-for-responsible-medicine


Not that the idea of subsidies doesn't need addressing, but in this one can all too often find themselves trapped between two sets of bad actors, NEITHER of which has your best interest in mind.

By all means, address the subsidy issue, but before affiliating with the PCRM, know who you're getting in bed with, ehe ?

-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.

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Friday, June 10, 2011 6:29 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


What's funny is that meat prices have gotten so high since the economic collapse that it's having the unintentional consequence of teaching people how to eat LESS meat, and as a result, to be healthier by spending less!

I went this whole week eating my lunches at work. Not a new occurrence by any means, but what WAS new was that this week's lunches included not a scrap of meat or processed foods. Nothing but fresh fruits and vegetables.

Breakfast was similarly meatless, and dinners involved a little bit of meat - two pieces of bacon on a BLT on night, a quarter-pound of lean ground split between two of us on tacos the next, a link of Italian sausage in spaghetti, carnitas another night, we split a chicken breast tonight, etc.

We're eating LESS, we're eating MUCH more healthy foods, and we're actually spending less in the process.

Really couldn't tell you the last time I had a steak. And I don't miss it too much.

Of course, as the factory meat farms start to fail for lack of customers, they'll scream that they need more subsidies - and of course the politicians will cave in and give 'em to them.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, June 13, 2011 7:49 PM

RIONAEIRE

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Interesting point Niki.

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Tuesday, June 14, 2011 2:18 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Uh, Mike, I don't think you're right, in general:
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What's funny is that meat prices have gotten so high since the economic collapse that it's having the unintentional consequence of teaching people how to eat LESS meat, and as a result, to be healthier by spending less!
If you haven’t shopped for fruit and veggies, you may not realize that THEY have gotten equally expensive, or close to it!

What’s actually happening is that, the less people have to spend, the more they eat fast foods. That’s been show a lot lately, and, while Mickey Dee and such are adding salads and stuff to their menus, I think the families who eat there don’t do it for the salads.

About the subsidies, tho’: Yes. Unfortunately. There’s the latest killing of the bill to get rid of subsidies to corn farmers, while we’re talking veggies; killed bipartisanly by those who have corn growers in their state. At that rate, NO subsidies will ever be killed. As it has always been, so it will always be...


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Wednesday, June 15, 2011 3:33 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Well, here's one way to cut out the middle man, albeit I have better local connections in multiple townships.

Ann Arbor's Real Time Farms: 'connecting you to fresh sources of food'
http://www.annarbor.com/entertainment/food-drink/ann-arbors-real-time-
farms-connecting-you-to-fresh-sources-of-food
/

And direct link:
http://www.realtimefarms.com/

Of course, given my rep for being so handy and helpful for local farmers, ain't too far a stretch to wonder who's gonna be helping hook the non-tech savvy ones up to this thing, is it now ?

Oh joy, oh joy...

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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