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Saturday, July 9, 2011 6:13 AM

HARDWARE


These events seem to be gaining in popularity.

http://www.dallasblack.com/communityChannel/samfarahs

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The upkeep and cleanliness of Sam Farah's convenience store could rival any in North Dallas.

"You don't think this store is in Oak Cliff," Farah said proudly of his investment.

But, crime is crippling his investment.

"Shoplifting is killing me," Farah added. "Shoplifting is killing me."

He said it costs him about $3,000 a month.

With 16 surveillance cameras inside and out, he has the video to prove it. Last week, a mob of people descended on his store all at once after midnight .

"They start trashing the store [and] eating," Farah said while watching surveillance video of the incident. "It's like they're robbing the store."

While several paid, the rest ate, drink and stole before police could get there, Farah said.

"We had to clean up for two hours," he said. "Plus, merchandise is gone. A bunch of merchandise is gone."

Farah estimated he lost up to $500 that night.

Shoplifting is common. Farah shared one clip from earlier this year that showed a man stealing a package of incense from a stand by the front door then running through the parking lot.

Customers have also attacked employees, according to video reviewed by News 8.

Plus, cashiers are seeing more counterfeit money. Someone passed a $100 bill recently that had a watermark of Abraham Lincoln, meaning it's really a $5 bill.

But someone apparently bleached Abe away and reprinted it with Ben Franklin and $100 markings.

Part of Farah's problem, officers said, is that three large apartment complexes are nearby his store.

Dallas police said officers have responded to 26 calls for help from his store this year, most coming within the last month for crimes like shoplifting, disorderly conduct and even aggravated assault.

DPD has made seven arrests. But, Farah wants zero tolerance and even posted a "Wall of Shame" outside his store that shows crooks his cameras caught.

"I worked hard," Farah explained. "I worked very hard to cut down on these crimes. I want somebody else to work with me."

Farah is spending money to build a restaurant, barber shop and cell phone store next door. He said he can't afford to hire off-duty police now, and short of keeping customers out or closing at dusk, he's beginning to wonder whether it's really worth investing in south Oak Cliff.

On Sunday, another store owner was murdered across the street from Farah's property. Police arrested one suspect and are still looking for two others.

Despite problems at Farah's store, Dallas police said crime in this part of town is declining. The rate is down 4 percent this year compared to last.

Overall, since Dallas police opened the South Central Station in 2007, a lieutenant said crime is down 38 percent.


http://www.dallasblack.com/resource.aspx?id=cfd70a52-0312-4659-aa1f-96
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It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics - RAH

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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Saturday, July 9, 2011 11:03 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Must be a rich neighborhood!

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Saturday, July 9, 2011 11:45 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


http://thedaleygator.wordpress.com/2011/07/08/black-mob-trashes-dallas
-convenience-store
/

I'm sure there were conflicting reports, and sources who claim there was no such mob.

Probably just some exaggeration going on here.

Move along, show's over....




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, July 10, 2011 6:27 AM

HARDWARE


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Must be a rich neighborhood!



Ah yes, the "Kwicko, it's okay to steal from the wealthy" philosophy.

It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics - RAH

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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Sunday, July 10, 2011 6:35 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
http://thedaleygator.wordpress.com/2011/07/08/black-mob-trashes-dallas
-convenience-store
/



There it is. The first report very carefully didn't mention the race of the mob. This one, it's the first two words. Wonder which one is distorting the facts, and the reason why.

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Sunday, July 10, 2011 6:48 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


The video speaks for itself.

There's a universal blind spot in the MSM to ignore race , where ever possible.

Routinely, I'm hearing reports on the radio, of this or that criminal activity, where the perp is identified as a " male, about x ft tall, and weighting at x lbs, wearing ... "

No mention of race, what so ever.

Caps and even wigs can hide hair color, clothes can cover tattoos and the like, but rare is it that a criminal will conceal their entire body, head to toe, with out an square inch of skin showing.

But, in honor to the above daleygator link...




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:05 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Hardware:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Must be a rich neighborhood!



Ah yes, the "Kwicko, it's okay to steal from the wealthy" philosophy.



Not really. It was an oblique reference to another current post, in which studies show that the rich are 30% more likely to shoplift and steal than the poor are.

Sorry you weren't able to keep up, but it DID give you yet another chance to make ASSumptions, didn't it? You should see to that.

Care to show me where I've ever said "it's okay to steal from the wealthy"? You can't, because it's not a position I hold to. Thanks for being sure to assign positions to me that I've never expressed, though. ;)

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:50 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
The video speaks for itself.

There's a universal blind spot in the MSM to ignore race , where ever possible.

Routinely, I'm hearing reports on the radio, of this or that criminal activity, where the perp is identified as a " male, about x ft tall, and weighting at x lbs, wearing ... "

No mention of race, what so ever.

Caps and even wigs can hide hair color, clothes can cover tattoos and the like, but rare is it that a criminal will conceal their entire body, head to toe, with out an square inch of skin showing.

But, in honor to the above daleygator link...




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "





fucking amazing....wow...we are doomed.

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Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:51 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Care to show me where I've ever said "it's okay to steal from the wealthy"? You can't, because it's not a position I hold to. Thanks for being sure to assign positions to me that I've never expressed, though. ;)




Never stopped you before from doing the exact same to others.


So, what's good for the gander, isn't so good for the goose ?

Huh.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:12 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Care to show me where I've ever said "it's okay to steal from the wealthy"? You can't, because it's not a position I hold to. Thanks for being sure to assign positions to me that I've never expressed, though. ;)




Never stopped you before from doing the exact same to others.


So, what's good for the gander, isn't so good for the goose ?

Huh.




I notice it's never stopped YOU from doing it.

Good to know you answer to the name "Hardware" now. ;)


And isn't this one of those posts that HW whines about all the time, that seem to imply that we're all doomed? Apparently he finds black people far more scary than nuclear meltdowns. I'm totally shocked to learn that. Really. ;)



"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:20 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Good to know you answer to the name "Hardware" now. ;)



Never have, and have no plans on ever starting to. Maybe you need a reading comprehension refresher.

Or a brain.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:23 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Good to know you answer to the name "Hardware" now. ;)



Never have, and have no plans on ever starting to. Maybe you need a reading comprehension refresher.

Or a brain.




So why were you responding to a post I directed specifically at HW? Just to throw in another of your inane, asinine responses?

Or did reading comprehension just EPICALLY fail you?

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Sunday, July 10, 2011 4:53 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:


So why were you responding to a post I directed specifically at HW? Just to throw in another of your inane, asinine responses?

Or did reading comprehension just EPICALLY fail you?



It's a message board.

Still not grasping that finer point yet, huh?


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, July 11, 2011 6:50 AM

HARDWARE


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

And isn't this one of those posts that HW whines about all the time, that seem to imply that we're all doomed? Apparently he finds black people far more scary than nuclear meltdowns. I'm totally shocked to learn that. Really. ;)



I'm going to respond to your claim that I am racist. I know you couched it in terms that allow you to back away from stating that I am a racist. Classic passive-aggressive action there by the way, Kwicko.

I don't hate any group of people based on factors that they cannot control. I don't hate groups of people for actions of a few individuals. I will hate whole groups of people for the actions of that whole group. Since that cannot possibly apply to blacks, asians, latinos, native americans or any other ethnicity, we can rule wholesale hate out.

I dislike individuals for their actions. When you see multiple repetitions of the same sort of actions by members of the same ethnic group you can start to build a pattern. At the same time you can encounter members of the same ethnic groups that do not display the maladaptive behaviors. This reminds you that even though they are the same ethnic group, they are still individuals and are capable of independent action and thought.

I live between two of the largest entitlement areas in the US, Philadephia and Baltimore. If I want a bad example of the behavior of a minority all I have to do is turn on the news or pick up a newspaper. Add in New York City and Washington being in easy driving distance. And Delaware being a well known spot to go to when you need to lie low, and you have to step off the sidewalk to get around the bad examples. I have plenty of reasons to dislike any one of many minorities.

Of course, there's the couple that owns the home next to me. They are black Jamaican immigrants. They have lived in the neighborhood for a couple of months longer than I have, about 11 years now. They are my constant reminder that you have to judge people based on individuality. Plenty of bad examples can be negated by just a couple of good ones.

So, Kwicko, fuck you. I'd wish you and your whole family would be anally sodomized with a porcupine. Except you'd probably enjoy that.

When your argument is being defeated, come up with a better argument instead of attacking the opposition. I don't think you are capable of learning that lesson however.

It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics - RAH

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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Monday, July 11, 2011 7:07 AM

BYTEMITE


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I have plenty of reasons to dislike any one of many minorities.


There's a pretty big difference between "They're all individuals" compared to "I have plenty of reasons to dislike any one of many minorities."

Since you are a self-proclaimed misanthrope, I'm willing to extend the benefit of the doubt that this post was more about not liking people in general than anything else.

In any case. Instead of sorting people in to "good folk" and "bad folk," with "good folk" being more the exception than the rule, maybe a little thought is required here in regards to "why" than "race."

I suspect that this is actually some form of protest, and it may even boil down to racial grounds, such as poor inner city black dissidence. But even that is a better explanation than "because they're black/ because this is black entitlement culture." Frankly, we do not know. Assumptions are being made. Maybe this is the new stupid youth craze, like planking, or icing.

I'm not going to quote the rest, but suffice to say, looks like you've taken the gloves and masks off.

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Monday, July 11, 2011 1:15 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Hardware:


So, Kwicko, fuck you. I'd wish you and your whole family would be anally sodomized with a porcupine. Except you'd probably enjoy that.

When your argument is being defeated, come up with a better argument instead of attacking the opposition. I don't think you are capable of learning that lesson however.




So really, that was the best argument you could come up with? Attack the opposition? Like you just did?

Or do you fancy yourself more of the "do as I say, not as I do" kind of racist?


As you pointed out, when whole groups of people (say, right-wing neo-conservatives) start behaving a certain way, and keep behaving that same way (such as pointing out ONLY crimes committed by blacks, or Muslims, or gays, or any other group they've been told to hate this week in support of their agenda of hate), I start to see the patterns develop. And as you've pointed out, it's not necessarily wrong to point out the patterns when you see them, right?

So I see a pattern here of right-wing assholes posting up their new favorite thing: "flash crimes" by "gangs of black thugs", with little to no substantiation other than relying on the old tried and true stereotypes of "everybody knows" and "that's how they all do".

So if I inferred that you're a racist, it's only because of the patterns I see in your behavior. Looks like you're into some freaky kinds of bestiality, too! Careful - Rick Santorum might get the idea that you're gay!

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, July 11, 2011 1:49 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


In my experience, thugs come in all shapes and sizes, nationalities, creeds and so on. I don't get why certain violent gangs start to form, but I do know that gangs need some sort of familiarity in order to exist. For some, it might be that you are related, from the same religion, from the same race, but generally you need something to bind you together. That is why you get racially aligned gangs. When that happens, it seems all too easy for people to start bringing out the racist labels about minorities.

So where you have black and hispanic gangs, we have lebanese and vietnamese. Same story. Some right winged fasc will start bleating on about 'sending them all home'. I guess the question is - why do people resort to gang violence, what are the factors that cause this to happen. Race clearly ISN'T a factor, because you'll find gangs in every society. What I do know is that they tend to occur amongst lower socio economic and disenfranchised groups, such as immigrant groups.

Sometimes I think they just act out their visciousness in a more obvious way. If you are a hispanic gang member you might rob at the end of a gun. The wealthy and powerful have more subtle ways of fucking us all over.

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Monday, July 11, 2011 2:38 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I agree with Magon's about gangs. Back in the day you had the Bowry Boys and the Plug Uglies, now you've got the Vicelords and the Bloods etc. Its always poor folk or folk who identify with their poor neighbors. Back in the day the Irish boys were running around killing, they were the poor ones, now its other people. But the concept holds firm.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, July 11, 2011 2:53 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
So I see a pattern here of right-wing assholes posting up their new favorite thing: "flash crimes" by "gangs of black thugs", with little to no substantiation other than relying on the old tried and true stereotypes of "everybody knows" and "that's how they all do".

So if I inferred that you're a racist, it's only because of the patterns I see in your behavior.


Oh screw that, for my part, I ain't inferring a goddamn thing - they ARE racist, and imma call em out on it, cause I do keep a loose eye on the pathetic losers of the mighty-whitey-righty crowd, in part for my own amusement cause the only thing even holding that lame bullshit up these days is the influx of money and resources from Federal and SPLC plants so they can be held up as a "threat" to justify their own damn existence...

Ergo, I *KNOW* what their current "talking points" are, and when I see that shit posted here damn near verbatim, right after it's posted there, it doesn't take a whole lot of effort to make the bloody friggin obvious conclusion, especially when it's coming from folk who haven't had an original thought in their head since selling their soul to an agenda, oh hell no.

You can try all you want to hide it behind weasel words and dancing around it, but the mask always slips, and your true colors always shine through at some point.
(tactically, you overplayed your hand, especially when you copy/pasted exact, tsk, tsk, goddamn amateurs, the lot of ya.)
And apropros of nothing, just to grind your gears, this.



-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Monday, July 11, 2011 6:12 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Posted by Magonsdaughter:


Sometimes I think they just act out their visciousness in a more obvious way. If you are a hispanic gang member you might rob at the end of a gun. The wealthy and powerful have more subtle ways of fucking us all over.




Yup. White people have their own gangs. They call them "country clubs". It's where they hatch their plans for how they're going to rob the rest of us, lie us into their various wars, and control us.

Here's one of those white folk gangs at work:



"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, July 11, 2011 6:16 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
I agree with Magon's about gangs. Back in the day you had the Bowry Boys and the Plug Uglies, now you've got the Vicelords and the Bloods etc. Its always poor folk or folk who identify with their poor neighbors. Back in the day the Irish boys were running around killing, they were the poor ones, now its other people. But the concept holds firm.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya




Sometimes the white kids in the gang even get their own hit show. Some of y'all may have heard of "The Jersey Shore", I take it? A "gang" of white thugs behaving badly, getting arrested, getting wasted, doing crimes, and getting ratings.

But it's always different when it's white folks doing it.


Right?

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Monday, July 11, 2011 6:30 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


It's plain that the Left wing's response to this is like anything else they can't defend.

Ridicule it, ignore the actual problem, and then poorly segue onto a completely different, irrelevant non issue, and say " see ? exactly the same! Nothing new here, move along "






" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, July 11, 2011 7:29 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
It's plain that the Left wing's response to this is like anything else they can't defend.

Ridicule it, ignore the actual problem, and then poorly segue onto a completely different, irrelevant non issue, and say " see ? exactly the same! Nothing new here, move along "




You mean "segue onto a completely different, irrelevant non-issue" like claiming that the entire "left wing" is responding here because *I* responded here?

You assign me far too much power over you, child. I'm just one man.

Besides, I'm not ridiculing the problem; I'm ridiculing YOU. And HardWhere. Because you're both laughable. To ridicule "the problem", I'd have to be convinced that there IS such a "problem" as you claim. You still can't seem to find much in the way of supporting evidence for it.

If I show you gangs of thuggish white people behaving badly - in fact, behaving WORSE, will you acknowledge that white people are more of a "problem" than black people?







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Monday, July 11, 2011 7:35 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I've seen feeble attempts like yours, Kwickie, for well over a decade. It's not JUST you, but figures you'd be so deluded as to think I was only referring to you. I wasn't.

You deny there's a problem? Just as I said.. you ignore it, even when you see it for yourself, on video. ( or more accurately, you close your eyes, and DON'T watch the video, even though it's readily available )

I'm not talkin' about Euro trash soccer hooligans, but the problems right here in the US. It's a very real problem, and one which you and the MSM are refusing to acknowledge.

Because you're cowards. And you don't want to face reality.

I get that. I really do.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, July 11, 2011 7:37 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


White man good. Black man bad. Woof.

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Monday, July 11, 2011 7:44 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
White man good. Black man bad. Woof.




Who is committing the violence ?


You don't care.

Why is it being committed ?

Again, you don't care.

Woof.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, July 11, 2011 7:54 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
White man good. Black man bad. Woof.




Who is committing the violence ?


You don't care.

Why is it being committed ?

Again, you don't care.

Woof.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "



Astonish me, Rappy. Why don't you answer these questions? Why don't you try to do it in a thoughtful way, based on some deep thinking about the issues? Why don't you put up a post that is not a video link or a 3 line cliche, but something with some substance.

I'll happily discuss with you anything you like, will happily and respectfully agree or disagree depending on your views, but I reckon I'll be eating my dog's Pal with extra Meaty Bites before any of that happens.

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Tuesday, July 12, 2011 1:35 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

Astonish me, Rappy. Why don't you answer these questions? Why don't you try to do it in a thoughtful way, based on some deep thinking about the issues? Why don't you put up a post that is not a video link or a 3 line cliche, but something with some substance.

I'll happily discuss with you anything you like, will happily and respectfully agree or disagree depending on your views, but I reckon I'll be eating my dog's Pal with extra Meaty Bites before any of that happens.




And like that - POOF! - he's gone!





"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:15 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Here's a point worth mentioning.

You know what the difference between a gang, and a government, really is ?

Perceived Legitimacy - that's IT.



-Frem

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Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:04 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Love The Usual Suspects. But no, I'm not Kaiser Soze.

As I've explained many times before, there's no point in continuing the discussion when others have stopped being rational and instead insist on taking an adversarial position, simply out of habit.

And as for why I tend to not post wordy , tediously long replies ? It's a waste of time here. The message and effort gets lost on those who don't care to read anything they dismiss, out of hand, from the start. So I go with the 'brevity is the soul of wit ' route instead, and move on.


Life waits for no one.



" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, July 13, 2011 1:11 AM

DREAMTROVE


Frem,

Well said


Rap,

Learn to ignore,


Mike,

Is it really a fair trade to waste your own time to waste Rap's if you're *not* gay married?


Hardware,

This is a non-event. Someone poorly managed a store. This is what happens when you attract the maximum amount of customers and don't hire enough staff. I've seen it happen to many people who have owned stores. The main problem is not being stingy or greedy but just poorly managing a store. Each person who comes into the store should be generating income, but that doesn't mean they should be buying from you. If a manhour is worth $10, then a bunch of customers at your store will generate that, if you run it right.

The problem is seldom, if ever, as simple as "crime." The business will fail, but not because of this incident. The owner hasn't really thought it through.


That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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