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POSTED BY: KANEMAN
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Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:10 AM

KANEMAN


May their numbers increase or we are doomed.

Okay it is official. There are only twenty two Tea Party members in the house. The others that ran under the banner and voted for that bill ...are frauds.

Although, one could count the 188 dems that also voted against this bill. Nope. Something tells me they did it for other reasons

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Saturday, July 30, 2011 6:19 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


There are officially *NO* "Tea Party" members in the House, or anywhere else, because there is officially no Tea Party.

Nobody in the movement has the balls to stand up and create an actual Tea Party, because they know full well that they are nothing more than this year's neo-cons.

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Saturday, July 30, 2011 6:32 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
If their numbers increase or we are doomed.



I fixed that for you! You can thank me later.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:09 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I think you meant
Quote:

If their numbers increase THEN we are doomed
Not that they will, no worries. They've gotten JUST enough power to screw things up monumentally, but I have faith that they've screwed them up SO monumentally that their days are numbered.

What gets me is the a mere 22 legislators in one House can hold the entire country hostage, despite the vast majority of Americans not agreeing with either their aims OR their tactics! That they can hold an entire party hostage as well, when many of those in their Party (not to mention the country!) KNOW that compromise is the only way to solve anything in a multi-party system and would compromise if they could just blows my mind and makes me ill.

They don't seem to have the ability to conceive of the damage they're doing, or else they don't care, either of which means they are NOT working for the good of the country, only determined to force their own ideology on everyone.

And Mike, you're right: there is no "Tea Party". They haven't the guts to create a party of their own, they just latched onto the GOP (which was stupid enough to think they could use them) and are leeches using the power they got by lying to get elected (oh, yes, they DID...they went on and on about jobs, when they have obviously got no real intention of focusing on that, only pushing their own agenda), damaging that party too. If they put up their own candidate, it will split the Republicans, thereby making impossible even the slightest bit of their agenda. I want a VIABLE system, however many parties, and that no one, SMALL, group of people be allowed to do the kind of damage they've done and are poised to do.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:40 AM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
There are officially *NO* "Tea Party" members in the House, or anywhere else, because there is officially no Tea Party.

Nobody in the movement has the balls to stand up and create an actual Tea Party, because they know full well that they are nothing more than this year's neo-cons.



officially there are 60, there's a tea party caucus.

ETA: Kaneman, which bill?
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:44 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
There are officially *NO* "Tea Party" members in the House, or anywhere else, because there is officially no Tea Party.

Nobody in the movement has the balls to stand up and create an actual Tea Party, because they know full well that they are nothing more than this year's neo-cons.



officially there are 60, there's a tea party caucus.

ETA: Kaneman, which bill?
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.




How many of them are registered as "Tea Party" on their ballots? How many of them actually got nominated and ran as registered Tea Party candidates?


"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:51 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yup. There's a "Tea Party Caucus", but they got voted in on the REPUBLICAN ticket, not a "Tea Party ticket". They only created their own caucus once they got INTO office. And there is still, as far as I know, no official Tea Party exists. Per Wiki:
Quote:

The Tea Party movement has no central leadership but is composed of a loose affiliation of national and local groups that determine their own platforms and agendas. As of 2011, the Tea Party movement is not a national political party, but has endorsed Republican candidates. Polls show that most Tea Partiers consider themselves to be Republicans.
So they are a 22-person "gang" which used the Republican PARTY to get elected.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Saturday, July 30, 2011 10:59 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Astroturf and Sock Puppetry, in a political sense, and this is why I refused to support the so-called Libertarians...

Of course what sank THEM good and proper was when 96% of their membership supported one candidate, and their Republican puppetmasters insisted on Barr instead - and they picked Barr, didn't they ?

Let's not pretend these jerks are anything but what they are, right ?

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Saturday, July 30, 2011 6:09 PM

DREAMTROVE


Not to nitpick, because I'm very disappointed in the tea party, which failed to stay with its creator and sold out to special interests, but I did not hear this kind of commentary when I was talking about the Blue Dogs. I think by the logic everyone just posted, there are also no blacks in congress because they weren't elected on a black ticket. Meet the two party system. It sucks, but hey, it's ours.


That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:32 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
If their numbers increase or we are doomed.



I fixed that for you! You can thank me later.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.




Seeing no one else said it..I will...Epic Fail..Naw Mean? But thanks anyway. For the record I agree with your tag, and you scare me.

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