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American Beauty meets Killdozer

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Monday, August 1, 2011 1:55 PM

PIRATENEWS

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Banks bulldoze foreclosed homes rather than try to sell them
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=time+bulldoze+
foreclosres


Dictator Hussein Obama orders bulldozers destroy 60% of Detroit
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/2011/02/07/captured-the-ruins-of-
detroit/2672
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Monday, August 1, 2011 4:50 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Come on man, ain't no fixin most of em, they've already been stripped to the friggin beams by scavengers, are haven to rats and skells, and a goddamn fire hazard - and the city won't even LET folk take em down, although we managed to wrangle permission for Habitat for Humanity to jack some of the less trashed ones for useful parts.

And every bulldozed house is somewhere to plant food, keeping the damn Monsanto-sponsored DNR goons playing whack a mole so that poor folk can manage to harvest out of the fields they didn't get to yet.

So, why act like this is a bad thing ?

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Monday, August 1, 2011 4:54 PM

MINCINGBEAST


I clicked on this thread hoping to find a discussion of the rightfully obscure 80s group Killdozer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killdozer_(band)

I am now upset, and pouting.

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Monday, August 1, 2011 5:09 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Come on man, ain't no fixin most of em, they've already been stripped to the friggin beams by scavengers, are haven to rats and skells, and a goddamn fire hazard - and the city won't even LET folk take em down, although we managed to wrangle permission for Habitat for Humanity to jack some of the less trashed ones for useful parts.

And every bulldozed house is somewhere to plant food, keeping the damn Monsanto-sponsored DNR goons playing whack a mole so that poor folk can manage to harvest out of the fields they didn't get to yet.

So, why act like this is a bad thing ?

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.



No kidding - Detroit has lost more than half its population. Why does it still need those buildings if there's nobody there to live and work in them?

We have a strange notion in this country, it seems. We seem to believe that if a city isn't growing, it's failing. Why must there always be growth, growth, growth? What happened to the idea of sustainability?

Austin's growing, and it's a worse place for it. I wish we could lose about half our population!

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Tuesday, August 2, 2011 2:30 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Man, I wish someone would bulldoze the half-finished plywood and tarpaper mansion-shack across the street! That 8000 sq ft monstrosity would be ugly even if it were finished, and it's been standing unfinished for three years on a weedy one-acre lot right across the street ever since the idiot that started it ran out of money.

Each July 4 I hope a stray spark catches the damn thing and burns it to the ground. No such luck!

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Tuesday, August 2, 2011 2:43 AM

DMAANLILEILTT


Wow you sounded kinda Texan just then.

I didn't know how bad Detroit was getting (is). It's kinda scary that it's become this economic Chernobyl. Nobody really wants anything to do with it.

And, as an aside, right now I keep hearing "Baba O'Reilly" by The Who whenever I look at pictures of Detroit. So..."Don't cry! Don't raise your eye! It's only teenage wasteland!"

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"

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Tuesday, August 2, 2011 7:36 AM

PIRATENEWS

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Tuesday, August 2, 2011 3:55 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by dmaanlileiltt:
I didn't know how bad Detroit was getting (is). It's kinda scary that it's become this economic Chernobyl. Nobody really wants anything to do with it.


Not just economic.



He's being nice, during the day it's maybe not so dangerous, but when the sun goes down...
Visiting Detroit these days is a lot like a real-life game of Fallout 3.

And the so-called leaders, so-called protectors, and so-called captains of industry, aka Randroids...
They made it like that, THIS is the end result of their policies, their laws, their capitalism.
A devastated empty shell, much like the peeled husk of a fruit once every ounce of use has been squeezed from it, cast aside and ignored.

You wonder why I hate em so much, well, there you are - in their path lies naught but destruction.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Tuesday, August 2, 2011 4:14 PM

DMAANLILEILTT


Fallout 3, you say? Except perhaps with less Liam Neeson.

Hmm, still convinced you "won" the Cold War, America?

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"

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Tuesday, August 2, 2011 4:44 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Yeah, seems the good ol' Cold War broke at least two nations...

Reagan decided he'd outspend the Soviets, and he didn't care how many Americans suffered for it, or how many American cities died as a result.

And then, 20 years later, Dubya decided to take the same strategy to war against a bunch of guys armed with boxcutters. And boy, did we outspend them.

And boy, did our people and our cities and our nation suffer for it.

It ain't the same old Cold War, Harry...






"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, August 4, 2011 1:56 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Sounds like Frem sees good in demolision, he has some good points, why not since no one is using those buildings anyways, more space for common areas, parks, gardens, kids to play, sounds fine to me.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, August 4, 2011 4:49 PM

FREMDFIRMA



I'm not the only one - this letter, cribbed entire and with permission, from the editorial page of the Detroit "Free" Press.
Quote:

Karen Dumas, in her July 15 column ("Detroiters need to take city 'comeback' to next level"), wrote that Detroit residents need to "stop trashing the very street you live on, or the streets you ride or walk down. And stop buying into the mentality that Detroit is dead, dying or in need of some external force to 'save' it."

This is a disheartening attack on Detroit's heroic residents.

For nearly 30 years, I've lived in Brightmoor, one of Detroit's poorest neighborhoods. During that time, I've watched and participated as community groups and concerned neighbors have fought to save our neighborhood. Time after time, we've been stymied by corrupt politicians, impossible city government infrastructure, and city leaders who have paid lip service to the neighborhoods while refusing to take action that would improve them.

We have called 911 about emergencies only to be put on hold and then waited hours for emergency responders even to be dispatched. We have complained about drug houses, dog fighting, dangerous buildings, illegal dumping, illegal scrapping and stolen cars only to have our complaints dismissed by authorities who claim they're doing all they can. Even our efforts at neighborhood revitalization have been stonewalled by the city.

Anybody who visits Brightmoor can see the difference that urban gardens are making. Teenagers are employed growing, marketing and selling fresh fruits and vegetables in the neighborhood. Unemployed people are farming vacant lots, selling the produce at markets and making enough money to meet their needs.

Instead of honoring this effort, the Bing administration has implemented new rules that make it illegal to use outside soil, build anything on these lots (including rain collection systems, fences or compost containers), or sell the produce -- rules that threaten to end urban gardening.

Detroit 300 is an effective crime-fighting organization, organized and operated by residents. Nearly every church in the city has found ways to mobilize their congregations to build and improve the city. Residents have started tuition-free schools, tutoring programs, neighborhood watches and clinics.

Many of us already pick up the garbage in the streets, and hundreds of Detroit residents mow the vacant lots next to them. Detroit's residents are taking responsibility, but City Hall is resisting resident-based revitalization.

If Mayor Bing wants us to mow the vacant lots, tear down vacant houses, hire our own security, clean the streets, attract new businesses, start our own ambulance service and take our own garbage to the dump, he should return the confiscatory income tax Detroit charges and let us do it ourselves.

Timothy Miller

Detroit


So I am far, far from alone in this, and I must admit it kinda warms my heart when I show up with some goons to help out a community project and someone says "Oh, hey, it's the Overlord..."

Bonus, cause it's just damn funny, and I LOOOOOve that game.



-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Thursday, August 4, 2011 7:40 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


It sounds like the people have spoken and are working hard to mannage things for themselves/for each other and they're doing a good job, and if the government would step aside and let them it would be even better. It sounds like depopulation of the city could be a good thing, gives everyone left more space to grow stuff and create things the way they want it. This is interesting stuff Frem.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Friday, August 5, 2011 1:55 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Very much so, cause Detroit has begun to lean heavily in the direction of Social Anarchism, and seemingly prospers for it while the established authorities flounder and flail helplessly while drowning in red tape and corruption.

And yet the bastards still manage to get in the way, and take from us - so for the most part Detroiters have gone self-help, DIY, and play nice only when the bastards in blue are right there watching, and otherwise go about their lives pointedly IGNORING the fuckers which think they're in charge, certainly they're no longer listening to them, no longer taking their orders.

I think.. that when that happened, the moment that happened, is when Detroit started turning around, cause it really is just that simple.

DO NOT COMPLY.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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