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Originally posted by Niki2:
Pretty desolate landscape. Would be neat if we were able to check out the geology and see what it was like long ago. Of couse, eventually we probably WILL.

(We don't even need to point out how assinine Raptor's statement is, guys, he's only goading you, okay?)


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Really? I mean, point about the blue sky, but we're questioning now whether NASA is really even sending robots into space?

I mean, with humans in space, you maybe had some good reasons to question, reasons I don't agree with, but reasons none-the-less. But why would NASA fake robotic Mars photos?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Is that where the astronauts left the American flag ?




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Originally posted by Bytemite:


This is the only thing your loving govt is really good at:


So STFU in the land of the coward and home of the slave

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Decorating Christmas Trees?



Jayne: "Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..."

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It's impossible to land on Mars or Moon using rockets

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Originally posted by piratenews:
To keep you paying your voluntary income taxes to the private foreign jewish "Federal" Reserve Bank. They prefer that to violent Revolution and hanging them till their heads pop off like we did to "Saddam Hussein".

The problem with robots is there's no air on Mars so how the frak do robots land on Mars using PARACHUTES?

It's impossible to land on Mars or Moon using rockets, just like its impossible to take off from the Moon using a teeny tiny itty bitty rocket BETWEEN THE ASTRONOTS LEGS AT PENIS LEVEL WITHOUT ANY SOUND AND WITHOUT ANY FIREBALL/EXHAUST.

NASA's blue sky on "mars" looks just like Earth, ie Antarctica

NASA!!!...Psy-op, Photoshop, Terra-forming... What's Up, NASA?
This is the only thing your loving govt is really good at:

So STFU in the land of the coward and home of the slave

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Is that where the astronauts left the American flag ?

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Sir Alexander Dane: Miners, not minors!

Fred Kwan: You lost me.

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Alas, my jab at Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee ( D-TX ) went over everyone's head.


Oh well.

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Um. There is atmosphere on Mars. It's mostly carbon dioxide, so it's just not human breathable air.

If there were no air, you'd be right, parachutes wouldn't work and instead to slow down they'd have to try to position themselves and fire some rockets, difficult since I'm pretty sure they use all their fuel getting there.

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Why?

You might have a point about the lunar landers, I'll have to look up how they were supposed to work and see if that makes scientific sense.

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An altitude of 120 km (75 mi) is where atmospheric effects become noticeable during atmospheric reentry of spacecraft. The average atmospheric pressure at sea level is about 1 atmosphere (atm) = 101.3 kPa (kilopascals) = 14.7 psi (pounds per square inch) = 760 torr = 29.9 inches of mercury (symbol Hg).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth

The atmospheric pressure on the surface of Mars varies from around 30 pascals (0.0044 psi) on Olympus Mons's peak to over 1,155 pascals (0.1675 psi) in the depths of Hellas Planitia, with a mean surface level pressure of 600 pascals (0.087 psi), compared to Earth's sea level average of 101.3 kilopascals (14.69 psi), and a total mass of 25 teratonnes, compared to Earth's 5148 teratonnes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Mars

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Mars' atmosphere is less than 1% as thick as Earth's, which is not enough CO2 "air" on Mars to slow a parachute, which may be why so many landers crashed officially (or do you really think NASA can't tell the difference between US and Metric?).

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An altitude of 120 km (75 mi) is where atmospheric effects become noticeable during atmospheric reentry of spacecraft. The average atmospheric pressure at sea level is about 1 atmosphere (atm) = 101.3 kPa (kilopascals) = 14.7 psi (pounds per square inch) = 760 torr = 29.9 inches of mercury (symbol Hg).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth

The atmospheric pressure on the surface of Mars varies from around 30 pascals (0.0044 psi) on Olympus Mons's peak to over 1,155 pascals (0.1675 psi) in the depths of Hellas Planitia, with a mean surface level pressure of 600 pascals (0.087 psi), compared to Earth's sea level average of 101.3 kilopascals (14.69 psi), and a total mass of 25 teratonnes, compared to Earth's 5148 teratonnes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Mars

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Alas, my jab at Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee ( D-TX ) went over everyone's head.

Oh well.

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Or everyone realizes that you're exactly as "smart" as she is...

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Mars' atmosphere is less than 1% as thick as Earth's, which is not enough CO2 "air" on Mars to slow a parachute, which may be why so many landers crashed officially (or do you really think NASA can't tell the difference between US and Metric?).

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An altitude of 120 km (75 mi) is where atmospheric effects become noticeable during atmospheric reentry of spacecraft. The average atmospheric pressure at sea level is about 1 atmosphere (atm) = 101.3 kPa (kilopascals) = 14.7 psi (pounds per square inch) = 760 torr = 29.9 inches of mercury (symbol Hg).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth

The atmospheric pressure on the surface of Mars varies from around 30 pascals (0.0044 psi) on Olympus Mons's peak to over 1,155 pascals (0.1675 psi) in the depths of Hellas Planitia, with a mean surface level pressure of 600 pascals (0.087 psi), compared to Earth's sea level average of 101.3 kilopascals (14.69 psi), and a total mass of 25 teratonnes, compared to Earth's 5148 teratonnes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Mars

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You should know that density is different then pressure, and that even with a less dense atmosphere a parachute would just need to be larger.

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With an historic failure rate of 66 per cent, the entry, descent and landing phase of the Mars mission is the most dangerous six minutes of the nearly two-year journey. Because the Mars surface pressure is less than one per cent of Earth’s—not enough to slow a spacecraft down—the engineering challenge is to find a way to slow the Mars lander from its entry velocity that might be in excel of of 19,000 kilometres an hour to zero impact in just six minutes.
http://www.racetomars.ca/mars/article_descent.jsp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_entry#Successful_atmospheric_
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

How can someone be 'exactly' as smart as another ? Where's your proof for that ? Or are you lying, as you so often do, when you post here ?

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How can someone be 'exactly' as smart as another ? Where's your proof for that ? Or are you lying, as you so often do, when you post here ?

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Where's your proof that you were joking when you asked about the flags the astronauts left on Mars? Can you prove you didn't really think Mars and the Moon were the same? Can you prove that I've ever lied?

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You lied when you pretended you didn't go back and add the word " there " to one of your sentences. I posted it once, so proof is already given.

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You lied when you pretended you didn't go back and add the word " there " to one of your sentences. I posted it once, so proof is already given.

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Couple things: You never proved any such thing, because no such thing ever happened. By your standards, I just proved my claim. ;)

Also, the word you falsely claim I added was "here", not "there". So once again, you're lying.

You really just can't help it, can you?

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The Jews stole all the air and are hiding it in teeeny-tiiny baloons under their beards.

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You lied when you pretended you didn't go back and add the word " there " to one of your sentences. I posted it once, so proof is already given.

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Couple things: You never proved any such thing, because no such thing ever happened. By your standards, I just proved my claim. ;)

Also, the word you falsely claim I added was "here", not "there". So once again, you're lying.

You really just can't help it, can you?

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How would you know which word you added if you didn't add it, or that there was no proof?

See? You just outed yourself.

Thanks for playing.

( man, you're an easy mark )

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Gosh, how on Earth could I remember which word you falsely accused me of adding? I mean, it's not like you went on a bitch-fit for about a year whining over it or anything, is it? How could I *possibly* remember...

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The Jews stole all the air and are hiding it in teeeny-tiiny baloons under their beards.

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We should stop this venture before we accumulate a Martian debt.


That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Gosh, how on Earth could I remember which word you falsely accused me of adding? I mean, it's not like you went on a bitch-fit for about a year whining over it or anything, is it? How could I *possibly* remember...

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I never falsely accused you of adding any word. You did exactly that. And since I had already forgotten, and you didn't, it seems your guilty conscious continues to weigh on you, even to this day.

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