Neil Armstrong says Obama space program 'embarrassing -- that's what happens with a fake moon hoax' by piratenews

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Neil Armstrong says Obama space program 'embarrassing -- that's what happens with a fake moon hoax'

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Monday, September 26, 2011 3:41 PM

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Neil Armstrong, the first man to walk on the moon, told lawmakers Thursday that the end of the space shuttle era has left the American human spaceflight program in an "embarrassing" state.

"We will have no American access to, and return from, low Earth orbit and the International Space Station for an unpredictable length of time in the future," Armstrong told the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology.

"For a country that has invested so much for so long to achieve a leadership position in space exploration and exploitation, this condition is viewed by many as lamentably embarrassing and unacceptable."

Armstrong was part of a four-member panel of space experts who told lawmakers that NASA needs a stronger vision for the future and should focus on returning humans to the Moon and to the International Space Station.

"A lead, however earnestly and expensively won, once lost, is nearly impossible to regain," said the US astronaut, now 81, who was commander of Apollo 11 and walked on the Moon in 1969.

President Barack Obama canceled the Constellation program that would have returned humans to the Moon and called on NASA to instead focus on new, deep-space capabilities to carry people to an asteroid by 2025 and Mars by 2030.

The retirement in July of the three-decade-old space shuttle program brought an end to the US capability to send humans to space until private industry can come up with a new commercial space capsule to the ISS, maybe by 2015.

In the meantime, Russia's Soyuz capsules are the only taxis for the world's astronauts heading to low-Earth orbit, and a ticket to the ISS costs global space agencies between 50 and 60 million dollars each.

"Get the shuttle out of the garage down there at Kennedy (Space Center), crank up the motors and put it back in service," said Eugene Cernan, who commanded the Apollo 17 flight and was the last man to walk on the Moon in 1972.

"You want a launch vehicle today that will service the ISS? We've got it sitting down there. So before we put it in a museum, let's make use of it. It's in the prime of its life, how could we just put it away?"

Cernan hailed the vision of John F. Kennedy, "a bold and courageous president who started us on a journey to the stars," and said thousands of Americans have been inspired by the space race with the Soviet Union.

"Today, we are on a path of decay. We are seeing the book close on five decades of accomplishment as the leader in human space exploration," Cernan said.

Cernan said Constellation has been replaced by a "mission to nowhere" and called on NASA to make plans to return to the Moon.

"As unimaginable as it seems, we have now come full circle and ceded our leadership role in space back to the same country -- albeit by a different name -- that spurred our challenge five decades ago."

He added: "I take no solace in the failure of the last Soyuz booster."

Due to technical problem with a Soyuz rocket in August, a Russian cargo ship failed to reach orbit and crashed back to Earth, prompting Russia to temporarily ground a part of its Soyuz program to do emergency checks.

Armstrong and others on the panel appeared to favor the unveiling earlier this month of a massive new launcher capable of powering manned space flights well beyond low-Earth orbit, the Space Launch System, which NASA called the most powerful rocket since the Saturn V rocket put US astronauts on the moon.

Maria Zuber, principal investigator on NASA's unmanned GRAIL (Gravity Recovery and Interior Laboratory) mission that launched earlier this month to orbit the Moon, said lunar study is valuable, but noted that her students are inspired by the notion of exploring Mars.

"The goal of human exploration of Mars is also the consensus opinion of the next generation who will carry out this challenge," she said.

"Unfortunately Congress is cutting back NASA's advanced technology work and it is not clear how the agency will be able to unfold new advanced missions without a more concentrated effort to develop new technologies.

Michael Griffin, professor of mechanical and aerospace engineering at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, raised concerns about a new space race and called China, which wants to put a robot on the Moon in 2013 and build its own space station for 2015, "a near-peer competitor."

"When the Chinese can reach the Moon and we cannot, I do not see why any other nation would regard us as a world leader," he said.

www.space-travel.com/reports/Neil_Armstrong_says_US_space_program_emba
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Monday, September 26, 2011 5:27 PM

RIONAEIRE

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I think Armstrong means that currently we aren't in a place where we could have people up there in 2013, since that is expensive and no one has done it in the last 42 years, I don't think he means that we theoretically can't, since we know we can. I think he means we can't right now because of money and planning etc.

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Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:51 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

What's really embarassing is a fake moon hoax.

"You do not deserve answers!"
-Lt Neil Armstrong

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Wednesday, September 28, 2011 2:08 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

So if I believe PN's take, why on Earth would I listen to Armstrong about anything anyway? I mean, if PN is right, then isn't Armstrong's entire life a lie?

This post seems to be PN lamenting the loss of that thing we never did and can't ever do, and complaining about us being unable to do what we've always been unable to do.

Lamentable and embarrassing, indeed. That accurately explains what it must be like to be PN.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:53 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Quote:
This post seems to be PN lamenting the loss of that thing we never did and can't ever do, and complaining about us being unable to do what we've always been unable to do.

Hee, hee, hee; excellent sentence and about sums up PN's conflicted mind. I don't read his shit, partly because of that. He's so intent on calling everything "Jew" and Obama a dictator, it takes him right out of the intelligent world I choose to communicate with.

Hey PN:

But go right ahead, 'cuz

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Wednesday, September 28, 2011 7:21 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

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Originally posted by piratenews:
What's really embarassing is a fake moon hoax.

"You do not deserve answers!"
-Lt Neil Armstrong

Hello,

I never thought I'd see Pirate admit that the Moon Hoax is Fake.

A real Moon Hoax is what he has long advocated.

But now, at long last, he admits that the Moon Hoax is a Fake, and so we really did land on the moon.

--Anthony

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Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:42 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

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"We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the moon by eye, without looking through the optics, I dont recall when photographing the solar corona what stars we could see."
-Lt Neil Armstrong, Apollo 11 press con

http://www.aviationspectator.com/more-aviation-photos?page=437

Northern Lights AND STARS photographed by space shuttle
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=38830

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Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:48 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!

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Look no stars in these pictures, they must be fakes!

...or high speed film does not capture stars.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, September 28, 2011 9:20 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Just because it's on topic and more interesting than PN's drivel, this...

http://www.astronautix.com/fam/comcraft.htm

Which is kinda funny given how often we denied it.

Also, damned if I can find it, but supposedly one of the capabilities of the SR-71 was the ability to get close enough to launch anti-satellite missles, which we DID in fact actually consider, possibly even building the missles, as late as 1990.

Oh, and if you ever wanted one more thing to hate Cheney for... see document #48
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB74/

Quote:
Richard Cheney, Secretary of Defense, Memorandum for the Secretary of the Air Force, Subject: SR-71 Program Termination, June 21, 1990, Unclassified, 1 p.

See, he had a thing for sabotaging our intel capabilities, since they had a habit of telling him the truth instead of politically convenient lies, kinda like Ms Plame did...

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Wednesday, September 28, 2011 2:57 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Just because it's on topic and more interesting than PN's drivel, this...

http://www.astronautix.com/fam/comcraft.htm

Which is kinda funny given how often we denied it.

Also, damned if I can find it, but supposedly one of the capabilities of the SR-71 was the ability to get close enough to launch anti-satellite missles, which we DID in fact actually consider, possibly even building the missles, as late as 1990.

Oh, and if you ever wanted one more thing to hate Cheney for... see document #48
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB74/
Quote:
Richard Cheney, Secretary of Defense, Memorandum for the Secretary of the Air Force, Subject: SR-71 Program Termination, June 21, 1990, Unclassified, 1 p.

See, he had a thing for sabotaging our intel capabilities, since they had a habit of telling him the truth instead of politically convenient lies, kinda like Ms Plame did...

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-satellite_weapon

Had 'em, developed 'em, still have 'em. ASMs are mostly launched from F-15s, from what I remember. They can easily enough get to 100k feet to launch the things when they're above the thickest part of atmo.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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