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Herman Cain: The Buffoon Strikes Again
Friday, November 4, 2011 12:32 PM
PENGUIN
Monday, November 7, 2011 1:54 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Monday, November 7, 2011 5:51 PM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Tuesday, November 8, 2011 2:49 AM
Tuesday, November 8, 2011 6:21 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Tuesday, November 8, 2011 6:56 AM
Tuesday, November 8, 2011 11:06 AM
Tuesday, November 8, 2011 2:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: Yepper, that's it , Kwik. Thank you. Makes a great bumper sticker.
Tuesday, November 8, 2011 5:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: Yepper, that's it , Kwik. Thank you. Makes a great bumper sticker. Try this one. ETA: Better this way, I think. "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
Tuesday, November 8, 2011 6:13 PM
MAL4PREZ
Tuesday, November 8, 2011 6:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: Yepper, that's it , Kwik. Thank you. Makes a great bumper sticker. Try this one. ETA: Better this way, I think. "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill I DO like that smile. And there's a kind of look in the eyes... But I do think the other one makes a better bumper sticker.
Tuesday, November 8, 2011 6:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by mal4prez: And let's just think about the irony: Cain has "no memory" of lawsuits and accusations and untoward behavior and settlements or any of that...But as soon as the accusing woman's name becomes public, he's all ready to go with a document containing her whole personal financial and legal history. Hmm.
Quote: BTW, he disclosed all this sexual harassment "stuff" in private conversations with his handlers-of-the-moment in 2003. Just in case it might come up. But in 2011 he has no idea. So that's what he's trying to sell us. (And sadly, that's what some demented little people are buying, because they need something chewy to go along with their kool-aid.) My eyes are rolling right out of my head right now. Wait, I might be confused again - is this story about Perry or Cain? Or Santorum? Gingrich? Bachman? Sarah P? Or--my god--is W. back? They're all so uniformly nuts that I can't tell which is which... On the up side, I kind'a like Buddy. He's done good things, not the least of which was on Colbert last night. Brilliant. Someday I may have to live in a world with no Stewart and no Colbert. That will be a very sad day. Unlike a day with no Cain/Bachman/Palin/Santorum/Perry/Romney... I'll survive that one, but only because there will all be those juicy internet video clips to remind me of the GOTP fun. ----------------------------------------------- hmm-burble-blah, blah-blah-blah, take a left
Tuesday, November 8, 2011 6:54 PM
Tuesday, November 8, 2011 7:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: Yepper, that's it , Kwik. Thank you. Makes a great bumper sticker. Try this one. ETA: Better this way, I think. "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill I DO like that smile. And there's a kind of look in the eyes... But I do think the other one makes a better bumper sticker. Oh, the other one definitely makes the better bumper sticker. And the way it's worded, I've no doubt that some of the tea-baggers would actually proudly put it on their cars, completely oblivious to the joke! "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
Wednesday, November 9, 2011 4:59 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Wednesday, November 9, 2011 5:50 AM
Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:59 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:20 PM
Quote:He's a charlatan, a fraud, a smooth talking slime with a hefty heap on personal charisma and charm who has essentially nothing behind it but the iron fist of the same despotic fuckers behind Bush and Cheney.
Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:08 PM
Quote: Meghan McCain fascinatingly characterized the Republican primaries as akin to dating in that the electorate keeps having one fling after another in the hopes of avoiding the seemingly inevitable marriage to the boringly dependable Mitt Romney. Herman Cain has lasted too long to be called a fling, but the GOP’s ardor for him has blinded it to his obvious ineptness in almost every aspect on which you’d test a candidate (foreign policy, domestic affairs, likeliness to seduce voters outside the party, ability to deal with the media microscope, ability to cope with scandal). The only aspect that he does well is exude charisma, as if he’s the kid who doesn’t study but somehow charms the teacher into passing him. The party’s love for him has not cooled despite a sexual harassment scandal he continues to handle poorly. (Justin Bieber is handling his nascent paternity scandal with more forthrightness, directness and crisis management wisdom than Cain did.) Cain seems to be surviving the scandal because the GOP truly likes him and because the party really has nowhere else to go but to Romney and because this is a rather tepid scandal compared to what we’ve grown used to from politicians (he abused power but there’s not even allegations of actual sex, so for most people it doesn’t really matter). But there’s also something else. The GOP’s relationship with Cain is more psychologically important than its relationship with any other candidate because Cain is that special thing: the party’s cool new Black friend. You ever see white people in the beginning stage of latching on to a new Black friend? They’re more excited because it’s something new and cool, a font of new thoughts and experiences. This isn’t simply racial: its the thrill of making a connection with someone unlike you who opens you up to new things, like a woman with a new gay friend. Cain has to survive his still metastasizing sex harassment scandal and his many gaffes and his clear lack of competence, experience and serious intellect because the GOP is so excited about him that they are refusing to really kick the tires (or admit to themselves that when they kick the tires they prove flat). Because they know they need him. See, Cain feeds the myth that racism is over. Some Obama critics feel they have been wrongly painted as racist for the crime of opposing Obama. Some of their critique has been racist, some has been reasonable, some has been unreasonable but what would be leveled at any Democrat. Either way, Cain offers absolution and liberation from feeling like a racist. For how can the party be racist if there’s a Black frontrunner? I think many in the party genuinely like him and are won over by his chutzpah and respect his journey from Morehouse to CEO. Fair enough. But the ascension of Cain does not prove that racism is over. Just because the party has a cool, new Black friend it’s excited about, doesn’t erase decades of condescending opinions and harmful policies toward Blacks. Alas Cain, in particular, is not the best person on which to hang your proof that your party isn’t racist. A Black man who denies that racism has an impact on today’s world gives great comfort to people who wish for the race conversation, as opposed to racism, to be over. A Black man who thinks if you don’t have a job, it’s your fault gives comfort to those on one side of the class war. A Black man who wraps himself in minstrelish tropes, like wanting the Secret Service to call him Cornbread and breaking into song at campaign events, surely gives comfort to those who are still not comfortable seeing Blacks as Alpha men. A Black man who can lead in the polls for weeks without seriously convincing anyone that he’s going to win is like having your chocolate and not getting fat. Or getting the walk-on-the-wild-side thrill of dating a Black guy without worrying that you’ll ever be pressured to marry him. Even if he’s not the nominee, Cain has already proven himself a psychologically transformative candidate for the GOP because the confidence that comes from having “dated” him is like a shield off of which all accusations will bounce. It’s impenetrable to white guilt. We’re not racist, they can now say without fear. One of our best candidates is Black. http://ideas.time.com/2011/11/10/why-republicans-cant-quit-their-new-black-friend/, if so.
Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:53 PM
Friday, November 11, 2011 7:29 AM
Saturday, November 12, 2011 2:35 PM
Saturday, November 12, 2011 2:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Meanwhile, Cain's buddy the Marlboro Man claims that the son of one of Cain's victims works for Politico. He says he has "confirmed" that. Except that it's a lie. There's a guy with the same last name, but he's not related to her. And he doesn't work at Politico. Not that a wreckless disregard for the facts has ever stopped Cain, of course. Or his minions. ;) "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
Saturday, November 12, 2011 4:50 PM
Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Meanwhile, Cain's buddy the Marlboro Man claims that the son of one of Cain's victims works for Politico. He says he has "confirmed" that. Except that it's a lie. There's a guy with the same last name, but he's not related to her. And he doesn't work at Politico. Not that a wreckless disregard for the facts has ever stopped Cain, of course. Or his minions. ;) "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill Aw, gee, how can it be "wreckless" (spelling error! Sorry, cheap shot...) disregard for the truth if they confirmed it? If "truth" is in conflict with "the facts", then obviously, "the facts" MUST be wrong. They must be changed to conform with Hermie's ideas.
Sunday, November 13, 2011 7:26 PM
Monday, November 14, 2011 2:30 AM
Monday, November 14, 2011 11:01 PM
HKCAVALIER
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 2:13 AM
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:14 AM
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:49 AM
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 7:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by HKCavalier: Mike, It's astonishing to me what's happened here, culturally. We're used to politicians bullshitting their way through interviews, forever evading question after question. It makes us mad, but it doesn't make us think, "This guy is a sad, incompetent fool." Being a good bullshitter can even be construed as part of a politician's stock in trade. But this? This isn't even bullshitting. This is simply failure. It's anxiety and confusion and humiliation. Watching him shift in his seat, move his water bottle around as he tries to come up with SOMETHING to say is painful. How did we get here? People have already spent a ton of money on getting this man elected, and will surely be spending several tons more before he's done. What were THEY thinking? Has the right's blanket disrespect for government *per se* blinded them to the need for their candidate to have the slightest clue what the hell is going on in the world? Or have they become so comfortable with the corruption of our system that they don't even worry about their candidate's putative electability--only his willingness to do their will? HKCavalier Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 8:13 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by HKCavalier: But this? This isn't even bullshitting. This is simply failure. It's anxiety and confusion and humiliation. Watching him shift in his seat, move his water bottle around as he tries to come up with SOMETHING to say is painful.
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 2:01 PM
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 4:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Quote:Originally posted by HKCavalier: But this? This isn't even bullshitting. This is simply failure. It's anxiety and confusion and humiliation. Watching him shift in his seat, move his water bottle around as he tries to come up with SOMETHING to say is painful. Honestly, from the very get-go, it's never been so much that they're evil, or insane, so much as they are INCOMPETENT... And above all things, I loathe incompetence. -Frem I do not serve the Blind God.
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 8:03 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 2:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: We really are humped. None of the Repubs are any good at this and so none of them have a chance. Obama will win again, even though most people agree he isn't good at being the president and most people would prefer someone else.
Quote: Niki, I hope Jim heals up soon, falling is tough stuff. Sounds like you're taking good care of him until he's up and about again.
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 3:40 PM
Quote:None of the Repubs are any good at this and so none of them have a chance
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:36 PM
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