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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Does anyone else find this advert to be a bit strange?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I thought Perry was going to promote some national Kamasutra platform.

Dang-it.

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Originally posted by Hero:
I'd support Perry more if his ads featured more Katy and less Rick.

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
" there's something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military but our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school,"

My understanding was that children could do both of these things at school- simply not as part of the required curriculum.

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The Twelve Rules of Christmas

December 06, 2011

(Compiled by attorneys for The Rutherford Institute)

Unfortunately, Christmas has become a time of controversy over what can or cannot be done in terms of celebrating the holiday. In order to clear up much of the misunderstanding, the following twelve rules are offered:

Public school students’ written or spoken personal expressions concerning the religious significance of Christmas (e.g., T-shirts with the slogan, “Jesus Is the Reason for the Season”) may not be censored by school officials absent evidence that the speech would cause a substantial disruption.(i)

So long as teachers are generally permitted to wear clothing or jewelry or have personal items expressing their views about the holidays, Christian teachers may not be prohibited from similarly expressing their views by wearing Christmas-related clothing or jewelry or carrying Christmas-related personal items.[ii]

Public schools may teach students about the Christmas holiday, including its religious significance, so long as it is taught objectively for secular purposes such as its historical or cultural importance, and not for the purpose of promoting Christianity.[iii]

Public school teachers may send Christmas cards to the families of their students so long as they do so on their own time, outside of school hours.[iv]

Public schools may include Christmas music, including those with religious themes, in their choral programs if the songs are included for a secular purpose such as their musical quality or cultural value or if the songs are part of an overall performance including other holiday songs relating to Chanukah, Kwanzaa, or other similar holidays.[v]

Public schools may not require students to sing Christmas songs whose messages conflict with the students’ own religious or nonreligious beliefs.[vi]

Public school students may not be prohibited from distributing literature to fellow students concerning the Christmas holiday or invitations to church Christmas events on the same terms that they would be allowed to distribute other literature that is not related to schoolwork.[vii]

Private citizens or groups may display crèches or other Christmas symbols in public parks subject to the same reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions that would apply to other similar displays.[viii]

Government entities may erect and maintain celebrations of the Christmas holiday, such as Christmas trees and Christmas light displays, and may include crèches in their displays at least so long as the purpose for including the crèche is not to promote its religious content and it is placed in context with other symbols of the Holiday season as part of an effort to celebrate the public Christmas holiday through its traditional symbols.[ix]

Neither public nor private employers may prevent employees from decorating their offices for Christmas, playing Christmas music, or wearing clothing related to Christmas merely because of their religious content so long as these activities are not used to harass or intimidate others.[x]

Public or private employees whose sincerely held religious beliefs require that they not work on Christmas must be reasonably accommodated by their employers unless granting the accommodation would impose an undue hardship on the employer.[xi]

Government recognition of Christmas as a public holiday and granting government employees a paid holiday for Christmas does not violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.[xii]

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Thing is, the Xtians won't have this. They want the "freedom" to observe THEIR religious holidays, and ONLY theirs, and the "freedom" to exclude every other religion.

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
I didn't feel stepped on growing up when it came to Christmas. In high school choir we sang the lovliest Christmas songs, including some blatently Christian ones, mostly those actually, but we were allowed because it was choir class and a lot of the pretty winter music available relates to Christmas and the religeous significance thereof.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Does anyone else find this advert to be a bit strange?

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Strange, No. Sad, yes...all he is doing is pandering to the Religious Right.

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
I didn't feel stepped on growing up when it came to Christmas. In high school choir we sang the lovliest Christmas songs, including some blatently Christian ones, mostly those actually, but we were allowed because it was choir class and a lot of the pretty winter music available relates to Christmas and the religeous significance thereof.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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A choir singing blatantly Christian songs at Christmas ? How ghastly !

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Originally posted by Storymark:


"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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His commercial is on YouTube; last I looked, it had 5800 "likes" and over 278,000 "dislikes".

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