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Better health

POSTED BY: CANTTAKESKY
UPDATED: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:45
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Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:01 PM

Spinoff topic from the Vaccinations thread on how we can achieve better medicine. Ultimately, the goal is better health, so I figure we can skip to the end. It is not just about medicine.

This guy makes a very persuasive case for just a little more exercise.

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Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:11 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

Due to transportation difficulties, I have recently begun walking to work 4 days out of the week. I think it's the best thing that's ever happened to me in terms of health. I actually feel better.

--Anthony

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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

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Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:59 PM

CANTTAKESKY

Walking is free. Doesn't require a drive to the gym, etc.

My concern when I watched that video was that they warned against 6 hours of TV. Who spends 6 hours in front of the TV? But then I realized I easily spend 6 hours a day in front of the computer.

Have to start making a point out of walking and exercise, even if it is to place it in the consciousness of my kids.

Another easy and free thing to do to improve health is to drink plenty of water. People always say that, but it is so easy to forget and ignore.

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"Christmas is a time when kids tell Santa what they want and adults pay for it. Deficits are when adults tell the government what they want - and their kids pay for it." - Richard Lamm

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Tuesday, December 20, 2011 4:05 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

One thing to try? When parking your car (assuming you drive) park it as far from your destination as possible. You might add a couple hundred yards to your daily walking total by doing this alone.

--Anthony

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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

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Tuesday, December 20, 2011 4:33 PM

DREAMTROVE

My dad had a similar experience many years ago. He never lost the weight, but I think it put him in much better shape.

My doctor told me when I had insomnia to get four hours of exercise per day, which he based on the cavemen. His reasoning was that we evolved as machines in motion, not sedentary, and while we ha muscles to do the work of running the machine, some processes logically were dependent on gravity and motion because these would be forces always present during the evolution of the species.

Later, I was working on a project with a friend who is a doctor, and he said that he had separated his patients into the walkers, being those who walked (the average for the group was 3 miles per day) as a lifelong habit, and those who did not, and had compiled some statistics on their health, much like the ones in the video. The most remarkable to him was how the percentage of walkers as a portion of the total patient population increased with age, until the age of 90, at which point the walkers represented 100% of the population. He attributed this to attrition of the non-walking population.

The only thing to jar the statistics at all was the handicapped, where he said the gap was more pronounced, and it was those who swim that did better, and those who were chair-bound and unable to leave the chair or simply didn't leave it, who did worse.

His overall recommendation was that I incorporate into my routine walks which would total 3 miles per day or about 45 minutes, and that someone with a disability include swimming instead, of about 1/2 hour to an hour.

I implemented this idea, but I have noticed a shortfall, as at the time I was living in a town where I had placed many of my activities, and the total walking for those was 3 miles, but if I do it for where I live now, it is far less than three miles, and I see that I failed to adjust my lifestyle to my location.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Tuesday, December 20, 2011 5:02 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

Drinking more water is one of those things I want to do but I don't want to have to pee more often, catch 22.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, December 20, 2011 5:40 PM

CHRISISALL

Gung Fu is my lifeline to health.
Without it, I would already be preparing for my dirt nap.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:04 AM

DREAMTROVE

After posting about walking, it's very ironic that I should injure my ankle. Ow. I still have christmas shopping to do, I must hobble through.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:27 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

I find walking boring if I don't have someone or some thing to listen to, or somewhere interesting to go. And the idea of driving somewhere, just so you can then go walking...seems counter productive. But that's just me. There are other ways to get my cardio, but what's important is to do something.

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

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Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:31 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Drinking more water is one of those things I want to do but I don't want to have to pee more often, catch 22.

That's pretty funny. Drink, drink the water now without fear my child. 'Cause once you reach 50+ you won't require any water to pee like a waterfall every five minutes.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2011 5:33 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello Dream,

Try not to aggravate your ankle. Perhaps make use of the electric scooters provided at some shops if you can, to limit the amount of damage you will do to your ankle.

--Anthony

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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

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Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:33 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I find walking boring if I don't have someone or some thing to listen to, or somewhere interesting to go. And the idea of driving somewhere, just so you can then go walking...seems counter productive. But that's just me. There are other ways to get my cardio, but what's important is to do something.

An Ipod and audio books work well during a walk.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:46 AM

DREAMTROVE

Anthony,

Thanks, but fortunately for me my shopping is done. I just took some aspirin and finished it off so I can now rest through the holidays.

It's the same thing I got in my other ankle earlier this year, it's called tarsal tunnel syndrome, and it's like carpal tunnel syndrome, only for ankles. It feels like walking on knives.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:10 PM

FREMDFIRMA

S'funny, walking is both benefit and bane to me - for while if I didn't keep active I'd prolly wind up with a bad case of donut butt, doing so is quite painful and over time damages my bad leg, or whats left of it, which is slow to heal at all and a magnet for other problems due to amputation and damage.

Believe me, I ponder the original non-disneyfied tale of the little mermaid and the terrible, terrible price she paid for those legs quite often.

But I AM something of a hardass about it - I tend to park farther away cause I do not, will not, have a handicapped plate or sticker on my car due to refusal to lump myself in with a collective that's driving is SO bad, generally, almost universally, that the mere sight of one makes me look for a way around or away from them before the INEVITABLE stupid/dangerous behavior, I am not whatever kidding either, I dunno what it is, but almost NONE of them around here can drive safely!

And I hate, hate, hate them damn electric scooter widgets, if I absolutely MUST use a wheelchair, I'll take the manual thanks, and don't even THINK of putting your hands on those grips, cause I'll get downright snappy about it, unless you're Alice or Wendy - the former out of personal respect and longstanding obligation, and the latter cause I really don't wanna get my ass kicked.

(She said if I didn't let her I was gonna need more than a wheelchair....)

Alas, altering my diet even to extremes has made no affect whatever on the pudge that middle age has dumped on me, and frankly there's enough else wrong that I might as well enjoy myself, meh.

ETA: I do also get snippy about Michiganders poor habits like starting/warming up the SUV to drive 50 friggin yards to the mailbox, that's nuts.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:47 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

And I hate, hate, hate them damn electric scooter widgets, if I absolutely MUST use a wheelchair, I'll take the manual thanks

One of the sadder things I've seen in Vegas, any touristy place, or hell - just a grocery store, is those damn hover'rounds / lil' rascals , for folks who have become so obese, they've lost use of their legs for any measurable time. I'm assuming they can stand, briefly, should the need arise. But we're not talking the elderly, or those have lost a foot, or such.

If it were just one or two, randomly sighted through out the day, sure... I get it. But my god, they're everywhere ! I'm sure these folks were the inspiration for the futuristic chubs in WALL-E, who float around on their hove chairs, too rotund to stand and use their obsolete cankles.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:45 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Reminds me of Wall-E. Ick.

A plan for better health

10,000 steps each day - oh pedometer where are you?
aim to eat 90% fresh and local - seasonal fruit and veg, free range meats and eggs, and stuff without things added. You don't need added calcium in your milk, or extra vitamins in your juice. Just keep it closest to how it grows or is made.
Work less
Holiday more
less time on computer, more time hanging out with people

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