More left wing media bias... yes, it's true. by AURaptor

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
I don't think it is clear at all what jihadwatch alleges, that this was a religiously motivated massacre.

What is clear is confirmation bias on the part of jihadwatch.

What if the guy had been Christian or Jewish? Or Mormon or Pagan or Santerian? Would the religious affiliation of the killer matter then?

Maybe. Maybe not. Lots of dads don't like their daughters' boyfriends, regardless of religion. It doesn't mean that is why he killed.

We don't know. It is all speculation.

I guess the main point is that what was left OUT of the story, that he was Muslim, and wearing a Santa outfit, with the obvious disconnect there, and the mention by one classmate that the guy was " conservative ", but just leaving it at that. Conservative what ? Hindu ? Jew ? Muslim ? Sure, he had a foreign sounding name, but with out any further explanation, I'd say most times when someone is described as a " conservative" and living in Texas, being Christian is implied. No where in the initial story was there ANY mention of the Islamic religion.

Though there is speculation, I agree. I don't see where anyone heard him yell " Allah Akbar! ", at any time.

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

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Wednesday, December 28, 2011 11:56 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!

Okay, so reputable media outlets don't say he was Muslim. The family was celibrating Christmas. You want us to believe an anti-muslim web-site....

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:47 PM

DREAMTROVE

They do this all the time, like calling people 'tea party' out of nowhere.

The one that really gets me is "right wing hate groups." I used to deal with hate groups because they prey on runaways. Right wing is not a term I would use to describe them.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:47 PM

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Okay, so reputable media outlets don't say he was Muslim. The family was celibrating Christmas. You want us to believe an anti-muslim web-site....

Yeah, don't believe a word they say.

What about these guys ?

http://www.iranian.com/main/2011/dec/aziz-yazdanpanah-murder-suicide

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

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Wednesday, December 28, 2011 6:00 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"Conservative what ?"

Republican.

Gun owner.

Businessman.

Behold - the monster.

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Wednesday, December 28, 2011 6:12 PM

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Where are you seeing " Republican "? Iranian of the Day, Muslim, but republican?

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, December 28, 2011 6:35 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

It's ANOTHER thing not mentioned in the story.

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Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:50 PM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Yeah, don't believe a word they say.

What about these guys ?

Sorry. Your credibility (politically speaking) is near zero.
If you speak truth, it's true enough. All the rest is political slant to make you feel better about what you hold true.

No place in the middle for you, it seems.

You must despise Mal, eh?

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:56 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Does media normally print people's religion when they report murders? Seen any 'Christian man murders wife. Police say he was exhibiting jealous behaviour and obviously obsessed with the 10 Commandments.'

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Wednesday, December 28, 2011 8:09 PM

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Ever heard of David Koresh?

Were he Muslim, I'm sure that'd just be some 'domestic issues' , and nothing more.

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Sorry. Your credibility (politically speaking) is near zero.
If you speak truth, it's true enough. All the rest is political slant to make you feel better about what you hold true.

No place in the middle for you, it seems.

Chris, you stating that I have no credibility, while not in the least even attempting to show flaws in anything I've said, says a lot about YOUR own.

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

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Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:13 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Sounds like just another right-wing Republican authoritarian who snapped bc his household dicta were challenged.

So, what else is new?

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Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:51 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Ever heard of David Koresh?

Were he Muslim, I'm sure that'd just be some 'domestic issues' , and nothing more.

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David Koresh wasn't a Christian was he? He was a cult leader whose followers worshipped HIM. I mean that is kind of newsworthy.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:20 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Sounds like just another right-wing Republican authoritarian who snapped bc his household dicta were challenged.

So, what else is new?

" Another " When was the first time ?

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:23 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Pretty much any guy who hunts down his s/o and/or family if they so much as dare leave.

But you and facts? That's a meeting that's never going to happen in this universe.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:24 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Little Rappy is whoZIT... yes, it's true.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:25 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Posting '... yes, it's true' makes it true... yes, it's true.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:26 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

This is the word of god... yes, it's true.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:37 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Little Rappy is whoZIT... yes, it's true.

This is how you respond to me posting a factual story, is tacking up 4 nonsensical replies, all in a row, ignoring the main issue?

Figures.

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:33 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Dunno what the argument is about, didn't read past the claim the MSM didn't say he was wearing a Santa suit. I heard that on three different stations and read it on the news websites. Turning this into "left-wing-media bias" is stupid. Making the point the guy was Muslim and all the rest is predictably idiotic.

I'm not here much anymore, this place has become so predictable and so silly; it generally seems to devolve into the same people arguing against the same person, who doesn't make sense in the first place. I keep looking every morning, but don't end up reading entire threads. Suppose I should give up completely. Probably will; which saddens me. I used to enjoy this place and feel engaged, I guess because I got caught up in the same stuff as everyone else. Oh well...

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:41 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Nikki, I have started many threads on alternative economies which you also ignored. Gotta say, it's not enough to be against something, you have to propose an alternative.

So, yeah... agree that rappy is almost always a waste of time, given his well-known allergy to facts. Ditto CTS, who approaches life with similar bias but from the other side. Not here for them. But then again, not here much at all.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 10:00 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Not aware I've "ignored" threads by you...haven't had anything to SAY on some threads I read (not necessarily yours); either others have covered what I would say or I don't know enough about the subject to comment. I don't even "ignore" threads by Rap, tho' I admit I often do PN's threads, 'cuz the title tells me all I need to know. But not yours, and not deliberately certainly. I just don't always have something to contribute...moreso lately than previously.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:33 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

I'd miss anyone who left.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:55 PM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by Niki2:

I'm not here much anymore, this place has become so predictable and so silly; it generally seems to devolve into the same people arguing against the same person, who doesn't make sense in the first place. I keep looking every morning, but don't end up reading entire threads. Suppose I should give up completely. Probably will; which saddens me. I used to enjoy this place and feel engaged, I guess because I got caught up in the same stuff as everyone else. Oh well...

Remember the link for the * Shiba Inus puppies ? Who brought you that one ? Don't even TRY to pretend that you didn't enjoy those puppies!

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:26 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Hey Niki2

I know you've been one of the people saying most frequently we should be having interesting discussions among ourselves rather than responding to little Rappy (who seriously couldn't find his ass with both hands).

But it takes a fair bit of time and effort to have a decent discussion - people have to be prepared to present their information and explain their conclusions, and to engage in the topic when it comes at them from a different POV with a different dataset. And I don't know about you, but starting from b4 Thanksgiving till after New Year I'm pretty busy.

With any luck, things will improve in the next few weeks.

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Friday, December 30, 2011 4:32 AM

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What's that even suppose to mean? LOL

I do find it funny at how some of you get all worked up and bent out of shape over THE most ridiculous things.

So not everyone agrees with everyone else... Whah!

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

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Friday, December 30, 2011 6:57 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Yeah, Kiki, that's what I've been trying to do all along,

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present their information and explain their conclusions, and to engage in the topic when it comes at them from a different POV with a different dataset

tho' I've no doubt failed miserably more often than not, and I end up spending a lot of time searching for stuff on the internet, then sometimes getting caught up in what I read--have lost whole days here and doing that, which is truly silly. I guess it's a feeling that I see pretty much the same arguments from the same people (in SOME cases, certainly not all). Partly, too, if I don't respond to a thread, when I come back a couple of days later, someone else has made the point(s) I would have, so I feel pretty redundant. I still come here first thing every morning, haven't broken that habit yet!

Yeah, I've been busy too, for a different reason, and not being here leaves me more time to work on OWS things, plus we have the actions and meetings and making signs for specific demonstrations and such, so you're probably right, being busy leavs me less time to be here.

Maybe it's partly that I see so much negativity here--not the arguments alone, but the predictable anti-government and conspiracy stuff. Caveat: I'm NOT pro-government to the extent I'm labeled, but there's a sense of paranoia here and hatred of the federal government which feels kinda internet-crazy at times. I guess I don't believe the government is nearly as focused on, or adept at, some of the things (some) people here believe. Working on OWS feels more like being pro-active (which I haven't found any reason to do for a long time), DOING something to hopefully cause actual change than sitting around grousing about it, in part.

I've never forgotten the bit on West Wing where CJ tells Josh off for engaging on a website about him, and how apt it sometimes is :

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Let me explain something to you, this is sort of my field. The people on
these sites? They're the cast of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest."
.....
I'm telling you to open the ward room window and climb on out before they give you a pre-frontal lobotomy, and I have to smother you with a pillow.
.....
I'm assigning an intern from the press office to that web site. They're going to check it every night before they go home. If they discover you've been there, I'm going to shove a motherboard so far up your
ass...

I haven't minded being one of the "cast", but sometimes it reminds me of that and I "shove a motherboard" up my own ass and dive for the ward room window, I guess. NOT to disparage any one specific person, it's just a feeling I get when I read down some threads.

Thanx, Riona...I kinda get the feeling that was a back-handed compliment, but that's probably just me. It's nice to know I'd be missed...by a few anyway.

I believe the puppies were Shiba Inus, and I thank you for that. It piqued my interest and I've been learning about them, and talking to the people I meet on the beach and at the dog park who have one. But I'm afraid I fail to see how that has anything to do with anything except, which I have mentioned before, that you do occasionally put up something interesting. I never denied that.

I don't mean to thread jack this, was just expressing feelings and they're not worth starting their own thread for. And PLEASE note all the caveats; there's no way I'm painting anyone with a broad brush and it doesn't apply to everyone, just an impression I sometimes get. Maybe I can never pull away, as it's become my sole outlet for social interaction, given my physical stuff is getting worse and worse, so getting involved in anything more physical than OWS is pretty impossible (and even THAT strains my bod almost to the breaking point sometimes and I have to back off for a few days to recover).

Anyway, thanx for responding, and back to the topic at hand...

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Friday, December 30, 2011 12:31 PM

America loves a winner!

Point is, I make perfect sense. It's others who want to do nothing but argue that are the problem.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, December 30, 2011 1:46 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Point is, I make perfect sense. It's others who want to do nothing but argue that are the problem.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

you're funny

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Friday, December 30, 2011 4:57 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Magon's

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...

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Friday, December 30, 2011 5:19 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Niki

That's kind of what I meant. I can understand ppl being frustrated re the level of discussion here tho I think anyone who looks over your way is mis-directed. I just see it as a matter of circumstance. And while your circumstance is different from most it coincides with a generally busy season. So fruitful discussion is at a lull.

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Friday, December 30, 2011 7:33 PM

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Point is, I make perfect sense. It's others who want to do nothing but argue that are the problem.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

you're funny

And I'm honest, which makes some uncomfortable. Oh well.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, December 30, 2011 7:42 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

So Magon's

Do you have anything that will rescue little Rappy's post from complete pointlessness? Something humorous perhaps, so we can get SOMEthing out of the fact that he posted?

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Friday, December 30, 2011 8:33 PM

America loves a winner!

Y'all continue to feign ignorance, or BE truly ignorant, for all I care.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, January 1, 2012 7:08 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Kiki, I noted this at the time, but got distracted; could you tell me what you meant by

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tho I think anyone who looks over your way is mis-directed

I don't understand the context, I guess.

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Sunday, January 1, 2012 8:01 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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I do find it funny at how some of you get all worked up and bent out of shape over THE most ridiculous things.

Ever look in the mirror? Or at your initial post?

Er... getting bent out of shape about things that don't exist, or barely register on the scale of existance... ie so-called left wing media bias, which not only failed to mention that this guy was a Muslim but ALSO failed to mention his party affiliation... yeeesh. Pretty pointless, IMHO.

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Monday, January 2, 2012 8:50 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

Er... getting bent out of shape about things that don't exist, or barely register on the scale of existance... ie so-called left wing media bias, which not only failed to mention that this guy was a Muslim but ALSO failed to mention his party affiliation... yeeesh. Pretty pointless, IMHO.

There is unquestionably a left wing media bias, so I have no clue of what you're even trying to say. Making up shit that's not true ( global warming ) and ignoring that IS true, it's about what they can sell to the public, not what's actually happening.

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

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Monday, January 2, 2012 9:14 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Rappy, there is undoubtedly a CORPORATE media bias. How do I know this? Because the media is owned by large corporations.... every single outlet. They have one interest in common: making money... something I thought you would be on-board with. As such, they have no interest in killing their goose which lays golden eggs (for them), which is the goose of corporatism. Just because the entire spectrum does not reflect your rabid right-wing anti-Muslim paranoid viewpoints does not make the media "left wing". In fact, you have no idea what "left wing bias" looks like... you have not listened to a left-wing station, nor read a left-wing paper, nor watched a left-wing channel in your entire life. You are entirely embedded in your little right-wing world, and have no notion of what anyone anywhere else is thinking and saying.

If you can, check out RTTV, or LinkTV, or even the BBC or Al Jazeera. THAT will give you some indication of what left-wing looks like. After you have looked at/ listened to these other channels/ stations/ websites for six month or more.. yanno, to let the shock wear off, to the point where you can absorb and to some extent predict their viewpoints and responses... THEN come back and tell us about the USA media's so-called left-wing bias.

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Monday, January 2, 2012 9:46 AM

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No media bias here, with Nic Robertson of CNN , trying to milk praise from the Egyptians over how Obama should be credited for the revolution...

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ROBERTSON: Achmed, you've been here down here on the Square for many days. The United States and the international community. You've just listened to President Obama saying that America will support Egypt if it wants help and assistance, and hopes that there will be a good transition for jobs for the young people. What would be your message for President Obama?

ACHMED: We don't know, actually, who he supports. He serves for his own purposes, and the Egyptian people serve for our freedom and democracy. Any democratic country should see for the people, not for its own purposes.

Meh, not quite what Nic was fishing for...

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ROBERTSON: Mustapha is joining me now. We just heard President Obama say that he wants to extend, eh, support and assistance to Egypt and Egyptians if they want any, and he hopes that there are more jobs for the young people in the future. What's your message for President Obama?

MUSTAPHA: Well, my message to President Obama is just, "We started this revolution without any outside help, and we are going to finish it also without any outside help."...

ROBERTSON: Are you pleased that President Obama has come out, however, now and said he supports this change and supports the people and supports the young people and -- and what they've done?

MUSTAPHA: Well, actually President Obama's views were kind of conflicting during the last week -- but now he's saying that he's supporting the change.

ROBERTSON: The view from here is one of very happy to now to hear that President Obama has swung behind the people.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/02/14/state_run_media_beg_egypt
ian_citizens_to_praise_pharaoh_obama

Huh? Did Nic even listen to what was being said ? Or was he simply reading from the CNN script, oblivious to anything anyone was telling him ?

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

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Monday, January 2, 2012 10:22 AM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

I'm really pissed off about Egypt, they're doing all kinds of crap but the media won't report it because they don't want to admit that the new regime is very bad, sometimes revolution turns out badly.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, January 2, 2012 10:29 AM

America loves a winner!

Sure would be a shame if they go the way of Afghanistan. I swear I did hear some talk of them wanting to not only keep tourist from visiting the great Pyramids, but some wanted to actually cover them up, somehow. Maybe that was just one kook Mullah ( well, kookier than most ), but what a crime to even try to hide those from the rest of the world.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, January 2, 2012 10:31 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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No media bias here, with Nic Robertson of CNN , trying to milk praise from the Egyptians over how Obama should be credited for the revolution

And, you think this reflects "left wing" bias? Dearie, you have no idea what "left wing" really is.

Obama is embedded with banks and corporations just as much as Bush ever was. The difference is that Bush was tighter with oil and military, and Obama is tighter with financiers and insurances.

So they are beholden to different sets of players... one makes money on war, the other makes money on money. It's certainly not "left wing" bias at all. Obama is simply trying to make sure that the USA doesn't get left behind in Egypt's rapid transition to... wherever it's going. Most likely a pro-Islamist democracy, like Iran. As such, he is offering loans and "aid" to keep one foot in the door. The Egyptians, though, rejected both IMF loans and American offers of "assistance", because that would invite all kinds of outside meddling and influence.

In fact, Egypt just kicked out a bunch of US-funded NGOs. Tracking back, those NGOs are headed by people from the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) ... the same neocons that brought us the clusterfuck of Iraq, the impending clusterfucks of Afghanistan and Libya, and who are trying to create yet another clusterfuck in Iran.

It's waaaay past time that Americans think LONG and HARD about where their interests really lie... with Israel? With oil? With democracy? With banks? Because we are creating such a backlog of blowback, it had better be for a really, really, really good cause.

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Monday, January 2, 2012 10:33 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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I'm really pissed off about Egypt, they're doing all kinds of crap but the media won't report it because they don't want to admit that the new regime is very bad, sometimes revolution turns out badly.

And you're not hearing much about Libya now either, are you? Things must be going swimmingly!

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Monday, January 2, 2012 11:06 AM

America loves a winner!

So blatantly show casing for the President, a Democrat, and the leader of a party which has been steered so hard towards the Left, is a Left wing bias.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, January 2, 2012 11:23 AM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

Even revolutions by the people can turn out awfully. I can't trust humanity. But the government setting up something new never works out well over there either. Is it a lack of education? Are they just ignorant? Why does everything always go wrong over there, no matter who does it?. I'm frustrated.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, January 2, 2012 11:26 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by RionaEire: I'm frustrated.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

I think a lot of us are, and there's no real simple answers coming.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, January 2, 2012 11:38 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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So blatantly show casing for the President, a Democrat, and the leader of a party which has been steered so hard towards the Left, is a Left wing bias.

Why do you keep insisting that Democrats are left-wing? BOTH parties pretty much have the same goal of "business as usual". Neither one is talking about overthrowing corporations or getting rid of the stock market, or getting rid of private banks. Right now, they are BOTH trying to figure out how to stabilize the economy for the benefit of banks, insurances and corporations. They only differ on how best to get there. Like I said, you really don't know what left-wing is.

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Monday, January 2, 2012 11:49 AM