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POSTED BY: CAVETROLL
UPDATED: Thursday, January 5, 2012 08:01
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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 4:51 AM

CAVETROLL


Just picked this up from Adam Baldwin's Twitter feed.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/court-obama-must-be-constitutionally-eligib
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...Others, including top constitutional expert Herb Titus, contend that the term “natural-born citizen,” which is not defined in the Constitution, would have been understood when the document was written to mean the offspring of two U.S. citizens. That argument is supported by a 19th-century U.S. Supreme Court decision

Under that standard, Obama could not qualify, because his father, as identified on the “Certificate of Live Birth” image released by the White House, was a foreign national who came from Kenya to study in the U.S. and never was a citizen...


This changes everything.



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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 6:23 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

Is this still a thing?

Goodness gracious.

--Anthony


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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 6:57 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Is this still a thing?

Of all the things they can "get" Obama on...

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Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 7:20 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




I salute you, Adam Baldwin, except for the registered Democrat part, "Ron Paul is in total freefall after Iowa", and voting for that loser transvestite faggot dicksucking NeoCon Bilderberger Rick "Open Borders North Amerikan Soviet Union" Perry. He must want Billary for president of vice in 2012, ironic since Satanic Senator Hillary Clinton got her head chopped off in the same episode of Buffy that Evil Adam Baldwin got killed on.
http://twitter.com/adamsbaldwin



Quote:

In his order, Judge Malihi wrote, in part:

The Georgia Election Code (“the Code”) mandates that “[e]very candidate for federal and state office who is certified by the state executive committee of a political party or who files a notice of candidacy shall meet the constitutional and statutory qualifications for holding the office being sought.” O.C.G.A. § 21-2-5(a).



Georgia Judge Denies Obama’s Motion to Dismiss in Ballot Challenge, 3 Jan 2012
http://www.thepostemail.com/2012/01/03/georgia-judge-denies-obamas-mot
ion-to-dismiss-in-ballot-challenge
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Thank you god!!! I am ready to cry! After 3 years of battle for the first time a judge ruled that Obama’s motion to dismiss is denied. I can now depose Obama and everybody else envolved without any impediment. 3 Jan 2012
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=29976

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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 7:54 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Talk about an inconvenient truth... Wow.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 7:54 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Gorram mobile phone double post

Grrrr.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 8:02 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by CaveTroll:
Just picked this up from Adam Baldwin's Twitter feed.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/court-obama-must-be-constitutionally-eligib
le
/

Quote:


...Others, including top constitutional expert Herb Titus, contend that the term “natural-born citizen,” which is not defined in the Constitution, would have been understood when the document was written to mean the offspring of two U.S. citizens. That argument is supported by a 19th-century U.S. Supreme Court decision

Under that standard, Obama could not qualify, because his father, as identified on the “Certificate of Live Birth” image released by the White House, was a foreign national who came from Kenya to study in the U.S. and never was a citizen...


This changes everything.





You ever notice how they sell hot dogs in like 10 packs and hot dog buns in 12 packs? You end up having 2 extra buns and so you have to buy more dogs so you don't waste the buns, but then damn if you don't end up with too many dogs and it starts all over again! It never fucking ends.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 8:15 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:
You ever notice how they sell hot dogs in like 10 packs and hot dog buns in 12 packs? You end up having 2 extra buns and so you have to buy more dogs so you don't waste the buns, but then damn if you don't end up with too many dogs and it starts all over again! It never fucking ends.



Sure it does. Just buy 10 packs of buns and 12 packs of dogs, and have a hot dog party.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 8:46 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:
You ever notice how they sell hot dogs in like 10 packs and hot dog buns in 12 packs? You end up having 2 extra buns and so you have to buy more dogs so you don't waste the buns, but then damn if you don't end up with too many dogs and it starts all over again! It never fucking ends.



Sure it does. Just buy 10 packs of buns and 12 packs of dogs, and have a hot dog party.



Typical gov problem solving... throw more money at the problem.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 8:47 AM

STORYMARK


Oh, well, if THIS guy says he's not a citizen, it MUST be true.

Jesus, are all Cave Trolls that stupid?

Do these idiots realize there have been 6 prior Presidents with foreign born parents? Or that the Supreme Court later revisited the "natural born" language, and that their decision does make him a citizen? If they're relying on precedent, they need to do their basic homework.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 8:59 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Just buy 10 packs of buns and 12 packs of dogs, and have a hot dog party.

OR... 1 pack of buns and 1 pack of hot dogs and give the extra 2 buns to the dog. OR make grilled cheese or philly steak sandwiches out of them.

It's all good!

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Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 9:34 AM

BYTEMITE


Alternatively, campfires and shishkabobs.

Just dip the swollen hotdogs into some nice hot cheese and eat 'em outside the buns. And don't think too hard about the imagery.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 10:00 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by canttakesky:
Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Just buy 10 packs of buns and 12 packs of dogs, and have a hot dog party.

OR... 1 pack of buns and 1 pack of hot dogs and give the extra 2 buns to the dog. OR make grilled cheese or philly steak sandwiches out of them.



So now I gotta buy some cheese and some steak and a real dog - I'll have to borrow some money from my neighbor Mr. Fong... see how it happens?!?

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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 10:12 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!



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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 12:49 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:

You ever notice how they sell hot dogs in like 10 packs and hot dog buns in 12 packs? You end up having 2 extra buns and so you have to buy more dogs so you don't waste the buns, but then damn if you don't end up with too many dogs and it starts all over again! It never fucking ends.

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Do yourself a favour and don't eat hot dogs. They're really not quite food.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 1:20 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Thank you all; that was a lovely "first chortle of the day", I much appreciated it. I think you got the best one, Pizmo:
Quote:

Typical gov problem solving... throw more money at the problem.
But I think Magons is the most right on; I've long considered hot dogs "food-like substance" (tho' I've eaten them at the zoo occasionally). Just as Velveeta is "cheese-like substance" (but makes lovely grilled-cheese sandwiches!).

The birther thing? Lordy, I thought we'd finally put that one to bed. Truly, truly pathetic. Sigh...I knew Adam Baldwin was a rightie, and have long gotten the impression he's not quite that bright (tho' NOTHING like Jayne, don't mistake me!), but this brings my estimation of him down a good three more pegs. I don't know who "Cavetroll" is, never seen him before, but "changes everything"? Omigawd...



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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 3:34 PM

DREAMTROVE



I've been not saying this for the longest time because I have no interest in being on the birther side of the fence, but Cavetroll is correct. My brother is an expert in this sort of this, as is Obama, which means he also knows. I guess my feeling is "but who cares?" It's not really what the problem is.

ETA: the reason the birthers never thought of this was that the movement was led by orly taitz who is a moldovan, and not that familiar with the precedence rulings on us constitutional law.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 5:38 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


May I suggest that CaveTroll's "this changes everything" was sarcasm?

Good point Pismo, that's always annoyed me too, about the buns and hotdogs, I mean really it is inconvenient.

And the topic of the thread itself is silly, citizen means born here, I hate that some are trying to change that because it would be pathetic and really unfair and shaft a lot of people.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, January 4, 2012 9:02 PM

DREAMTROVE


I think the troll is correct according to legal precedent, but I suspect that the child of an american mother is an american. It would never fly, anyway. But opposing Obama for perhaps not really being eligible is like attacking clinton over a blue dress or bush over awol, it's sort of missing the point. If you attack someone personally, you're not asking for a better candidate, and you'll just end up replacing that flawed person with another person with a different personal flaw, but similar policies. Attack the policy, not the person.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Thursday, January 5, 2012 6:59 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Well said, DT. All this idiocy is the height of absurdity, and well past any kind of sense. Sometimes I totally despair of the people in this country. Or at least, some of them. I don't want to KNOW how many, it would only depress me further.



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Thursday, January 5, 2012 7:16 AM

CAVETROLL


At best (worst?) This would deprive Obama of the electoral votes from states having validation provisions. The ONLY reason it carries weight is a prior SCOTUS decision, so there is established legal precedent and that means this dog has teeth, like it or not. Now, if California, New York or Florida happens to be one of the states with these laws, then that actually would change things. Georgia does have 16 electoral college votes, a not inconsiderable number. But this still feels like a test case to me.

The validity of the plaintiff's argument is immaterial. Law isn't about fair, it is about what you can legally do. Don't agree with it myself.

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Thursday, January 5, 2012 7:59 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Precedent says otherwise.

And I agree with DT... don't attack the guy on specious grounds. "Getting rid of Obama" is NOT the goal here, particularly if you replace him with someone just as bad, or worse.

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Thursday, January 5, 2012 8:01 AM

BYTEMITE


Sworn into office is legally binding, unfortunately. You'd probably have a better chance at declaring it invalid by going after they mess they made of the oath of office.

And even if we could rescind all of Obama's policies this way, we can't unexplode the bombs, or clean up the gulf. Ultimately what we really want is for the last two decades to have never happened.

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