Finale score in South Carolina; Gingrich 54

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Finale score in South Carolina; Gingrich 54 - King 14

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Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:29 AM

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gingrich-beats-media-south-carolina-54
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That's just in S.C. I wonder what the MSM aproval numbers are nation wide, if you look at the ratings for MSNBC, CNN and evening news they can't be good. NEWSWEEK was sold for $1 and the NYT has had to jack up their price to $2.50 to make a profit, the MSM is going to destroy itself and it will be fun to watch.

MSM --->

What really will be fun to watch is the fact that the MSM will not only destroy itself, they're going to make ass's of themselves in the process. Look at King, Stephanopoulos and Williams, they made total ass's out of themselves but their peers told them they looked great. Not only are the Demorats going to have an awful year, they'll likely drag the MSM to Hell with them.....funny.

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Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:13 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

If you're going to use a word so frequently, at least learn to spell it. It's "destroy", not "distroy". I'm not normally a spelling faerie being guilty of a number of typos on my own, but you've typed it wrongly many times already, so it's clearly a word you don't know. And it being such a common word says something about your education.

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Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:15 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by SignyM:
If you're going to use a word so frequently, at least learn to spell it. It's "destroy", not "distroy". I'm not normally a spelling faerie being guilty of a number of typos on my own, but you've typed it wrongly many times already, so it's clearly a word you don't know. And it being such a common word says something about your education.

So, no comment on Newt winning SC ?

And point of fact, zit typed ' disTORY ', not distroy, not that it matters much.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:46 AM

WHOZIT

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Originally posted by SignyM:
If you're going to use a word so frequently, at least learn to spell it. It's "destroy", not "distroy". I'm not normally a spelling faerie being guilty of a number of typos on my own, but you've typed it wrongly many times already, so it's clearly a word you don't know. And it being such a common word says something about your education.

I've corrected the spelling, I've dusted off my Speak an Spell and it's ready for action.

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Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:33 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Um... I predicted that Newt would be the GOP nominee in the "Obama's second term" thread. He appeals to angry whites, and he's not Mormon. If you knew my co-workers, they would tell you that I've been saying for a least a month that Romney will never win because he's

(psst!) MORMON *stage whisper*

This is kind of a truth-time for Republicans, where the real small-government candidate (Ron Paul) gets to duke it out with big-government pro-corporate types (Gingrich, Romney) and the intrusively-religious government evangelicals (everyone else). Since Gingrich isn't about to piss off any big corporations, has enough bluster to appeal to angry whites, and isn't a Mormon... in other words, he represents all of the angst, internal confusion, and prejudices of the current GOP base... my guess is that he'll get the nomination.

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Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:46 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Amazing, isn't it? A whole segment of the population who are rabid on the subject of the sanctity of marriage and scream about smaller government and supposedly hate Washington "insiders", might well nominate a man who has NO belief in the sanctity of marriage whatsoever, has been about as big an insider as humanly possible for decades, was a lobbyist, and almost all who worked with him in government say is the absolute wrong person to be President!! Shows you how low they've sunk in their obsessiveness and hatred...I really think they'd nominate any fool off the street, if he was angry enough.

...and yet his (unproven) discretions knocked off Cain...

Amazing.

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Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:52 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Here you go:

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So long to the party of family values

When someone asks when the Republican Party abandoned its longstanding position as the party of family values, we will all be able to say it was shortly after 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on January 19, 2012, in Charleston, South Carolina.

When the invited audience of 2,300 Republicans stood up and applauded Newt Gingrich's angry and defiant response to the opening question from CNN's John King about allegations leveled by the ex-wife of the former speaker of the House, it was clear that the GOP, always judgmental about marital fidelity with Democrats, threw that out of the window.

The GOP's desire to beat President Barack Obama at any cost, and its unwillingness to coalesce around Mitt Romney, clearly outweighs its view on rampant adultery by one of its leading presidential candidates.

Those willing to make excuses for Gingrich's cheating on his second wife, Marianne, with his current wife, Callista (he also cheated on wife No. 1 with Marianne, who later became wife No. 2) are quick to say that the Christian faith requires forgiveness. And that is absolute right. But when has Gingrich apologized to President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore for his routine missives declaring both of them morally corrupt? When has Gingrich ever said publicly that while he was ripping other to shreds, he was doing the same to his marriage vows to forsake all others?

What was amazing Thursday night is that we were in South Carolina, the Bible Belt, where evangelicals hold significant sway. Just last year, Republicans were aghast when the governor, Mark Sanford, was busted for engaging in an international extramarital affair, hiding away in Argentina and lying about his whereabouts. Details of his sordid affair made national headlines and embarrassed the state and the national party.

South Carolinians were disgusted with his behavior, and the potential presidential candidate who was a darling of Bible-thumpin' social conservatives ended his tenure in shame, losing his wife in the process.

So why was the GOP so quick to leap to their feet as Gingrich castigated King for even asking the question? No doubt they will say it was his denunciation of the media for asking such a tawdry question. Others will say that Newt's multiple affairs were common knowledge and since he was a declared changed man, we all should move on.

It's highly likely that when the group of influential social conservatives met in Texas last weekend to coalesce around a candidate, Gingrich's rampant cheating was too much for them to overlook and that's why they settled on Rick Santorum.

So to the Republican Party, your high-minded and sanctimonious positions about others not having morals and values should end. If you are willing to accept Newt Gingrich with all of his failings, then you had better open your arms for a whole lot of other sinners who have also sought God's redemption. http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/20/opinion/martin-gop-family-values/index.h
tml?hpt=hp_bn9 a nutshell: Ay-yup!

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Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:10 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

FUN FACTS IN SC:

1. 1,000S OF DEAD FOLKS ALLOWED TO VOTE
2. NO I.D. REQUIRED TO VOTE
3. NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE REQUIRED TO VOTE
4. ELECTION WINNER ANNOUNCED BEFORE 50% OF VOTES "COUNTED"
5. ABSENTEE BALLOTS ARE NEVER COUNTED
6. MEDIA USES SECRET LAIR IN JEW YORK CITY TO "PREDICT" VOTES WITHOUT ELECTION RESULTS
7. NAZI KING OF SPAIN "COUNTS" ALL THE OFFICIAL VOTES IN SECRET LAIR IN TAMPA FLORIDA

SC votes without ID law, Obama supporters deleriously happy their Fuhrer won't be deported
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57363426/s.c-votes-without-new-vot
er-id-law/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/22/nikki-haley-south-carolina-vo
ter-id-jesse-jackson_n_1221987.html

Spanish king's son-in-law Inaki Urdangarin summoned in fraud and embezzlement case
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45816376/ns/world_news-europe/

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South Carolina's Attorney General detects voter fraud during primaries, 21 Jan 2012

South Carolina's Attorney General, Alan Wilson has notified the U.S. Justice Department of potential voter fraud.

Wilson says an analysis found 953 ballots cast by voters were people who are listed as dead.

http://www.wtoc.com/story/16571904/south-carolinas-attorney-general-de
tects-voter-fraud-for-primaries

At the precise moment the polls closed across South Carolina tonight, with zero votes tallied by the 100% unverifiable e-voting systems the state forces voters to use on Election Day, all the news nets, save for CNN (which, in a short-lived moment of being responsible, thought it inappropriate to call the race with only 2 precincts actually reporting, so they waited until 3% were in before calling it), announced that Newt Gingrich was the "winner" of the all-important "First-in-the-South" 2012 Republican Primary.

Steven J. Dorst, however, posted the following shocking statement said to be from the South Carolina Election Commission disputing the news network's reported results which are based completely on the same Exit Polls they told us could not be relied upon after the Presidential Election in 2004 and the NH Primary Election in 2008.

Dark Horse wins 2012 South Carolina Republican Primary!

Columbia, SC 21 Jan 2012 1901 EST - John H. Hudgens, III, Chairman of the South Carolina Election Commission stunned the nation when, seconds after polls closed, he announced Democrat Alvin Greene as the winner of today’s South Carolina Republican Presidential primary.

In a hastily called press conference in the lobby of the building housing the Election Commission, Hudgens reported that Greene received 57.2% of the vote. Herman Cain was a distant second with 17.2%, followed closely by Michelle Bachmann at 16.8%. All other candidates were “in the low single digits.” These numbers were, of course, reported by the 100% unverifiable ES&S iVotronic touch-screen systems used to record and tabulate votes across the entire Palmetto State in the all-important “First-in-the-South” primary.

When pressed for actual numbers, Hudgens said exact vote totals will never be released (much less tabulated), since “The environmentally friendly iVotronic machines decided to only produce percentages, thus saving paper and the wear and tear of computer printers. He added “The state of South Carolina has long maintained that we don’t think it’s all that important to know how voters actually voted, otherwise we would use a verifiable voting system. The important thing is who beat whom, and at 1 minute after polls closed in the great state of South Carolina we’re able to report as much. Anybody who says otherwise is either a liar, has sour grapes, is a conspiracy theorist or a supporter of Ron Paul’s.”

When asked how Greene, who wasn’t on the ballot, could possibly have won, Hudgens replied that he didn’t know, but that he has full faith in the tabulation contractor hired by South Carolina to gather precinct reports and tabulate the totals: “They’re good ole boys and I refuse to believe them capable of playing with the totals. It was probably through an aggressive, write-in campaign.”

Greene, best known for his upset victory in the 2010 South Carolina Democratic Senatorial primary, was reached at his home and reacted “Huh?” but quickly recovered and said he intends to compete aggressively in Nevada and Florida using the secretive and hitherto unknown campaign staff and army of volunteers he first used in 2010. Recently, a few disgruntled volunteers have leaked that his army is primarily composed of hackers, and they insisted on anonymity in fear of identity theft.

Greene’s win today in South Carolina helps the state avoid the embarrassment GOP officials had in Iowa where voters were allowed to vote on paper ballots and watch those paper ballots counted before their very eyes, allowing for an accurate result where Rick Santorum was found to have been the winner by all accounts, even after the GOP establishment there did their best to inaccurately name Mitt Romney the winner.

“There will be no such confusion in South Carolina tonight!,” Hudgens said.

Why not?

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9080#more-9080

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Obama, er, Newt Gingrich 40.45% 243,153 (open marriage, resigned from Congress to avoid prison)
Mitt Romney 27.83% 167,280 (wrote Obamacare, sexy space alien, not a politician, tax cehat who will raise taxes)
Rick Santorum 16.98% 102,057 (Obama's ambassador to Commie China, daughter is a citizen of Commie China, not a politician, will raise taxes)
Ron Paul 12.97% 77,993 (actually a polician, will end IRS income tax)

Gingrich beating Romney in South Carolina is actually a good thing for Ron Paul. The delegates are getting all split up and it's going to be very difficult for Romney, or anyone to get enough, which could result in a brokered convention. Santorum will be dropping out soon as he has no money or organization to continue much further and isn't even on the ballot in 4 states. Gingrich, who is also missing from the ballot in 2 states, is going to split votes with Romney and take delegates away from him as Paul continues to pick them up little by little.

http://www.dailypaul.com

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GLOBAL INTERNET VOTING FIRM BUYS U.S. ELECTION RESULTS REPORTING FIRM

Black Box Voting
January 17, 2012

In a major step towards global centralization of election processes, the world's dominant Internet voting company has purchased the USA's dominant election results reporting company.

When you view your local or state election results on the Internet, on portals which often appear to be owned by the county elections division, in over 525 US jurisdictions you are actually redirected to a private corporate site controlled by SOE software, which operates under the name ClarityElections.com.

The good news is that this firm promptly reports precinct-level detail in downloadable spreadsheet format.

As reported by BlackBoxVoting.org in 2008, the bad news is that this centralizes one middleman access point for over 525 jurisdictions in AL, AZ, CA, CO, DC, FL, KY, MI, KS, IL, IN, NC, NM, MN, NY, SC, TX, UT, WA. And growing.

As local election results funnel through SOE's servers (typically before they reach the public elsewhere), those who run the computer servers for SOE essentially get "first look" at results and the ability to immediately and privately examine vote details throughout the USA.

In 2004, many Americans were justifiably concerned when, days before the presidential election, Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell redirected Ohio election night results through the Tennessee-based server for several national Republican Party operations.

This is worse: This redirects results reporting to a centralized privately held server which is not just for Ohio, but national; not just USA-based, but global.

A mitigation against fraud by SOE insiders has been the separation of voting machine systems from the SOE results reports. Because most US jurisdictions require posting evidence of results from each voting machine at the precinct, public citizens can organize to examine these results to compare with SOE results. Black Box Voting spearheaded a national citizen action to videotape / photograph these poll tapes in 2008.

With the merger of SOE and SCYTL, that won't work (if SCYTL's voting system is used). When there are two truly independent sources of information, the public can perform its own "audit" by matching one number against the other.

These two independent sources, however, will now be merged into one single source: an Internet voting system controlled by SCYTL, with a results reporting system also controlled by SCYTL.

With SCYTL internet voting, there will be no ballots. No physical evidence. No chain of custody. No way for the public to authenticate who actually cast the votes, chain of custody, or the count.

SCYTL is moving into or already running elections in: the United Kingdom, France, Canada, Norway, Switzerland, United Arab Emirates, South Africa, India and Australia.

SCYTL is based in Barcelona; its funding comes from international venture capital funds including Nauta Capital, Balderton Capital and Spinnaker.

Here is the link to the press release regarding SYCTL's acquisition of SOE
Online voting technology company SCYTL is acquiring SOE Software, a maker of election management software. Terms of the deal were not released. Barcelona-based SCYTL is backed by venture funds Nauta Capital, Balderton Capital and Spinnaker. SOE Software is based in Tampa, Fla.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/scytl-acquires-soe-software-becoming-
the-leadin%20g-election-software-provider-2012-01-11

The funny thing about all this is there have been so much information that newt had canceled events do to low turnout and i saw on cspan that santorm had low turn out but Ron Paul has sold out events the numbers dont ad up somethings a scew.I dont believe the results. RP got Newt's votes and Newt got RP's, IMHO.

www.blackboxvoting.org

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Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:27 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

100% OF SOUTH CAROLINA VOTES GO THROUGH SCYTL OWNED BY KING OF SPAIN

By Bev Harris
bLACKbOXvOTING.ORG

The genius of democracy is dispersed public control.

As we saw in Iowa when alert public citizens captured evidence of the actual vote count BEFORE it was reported by a centralized state committee, the state Republican Party and the news media initially claimed victory for the wrong winner. They only corrected this mis-call two weeks later, buying the favored candidate half a month of fund raising prowess and prestige.

In South Carolina, 100% of election results will be redirected through a private Barcelona, Spain-owned company, Scytl/SOE Software, before being reported to the public.

There is only one way to immediately find out whether Scytl/SOE reported the right results*, and that is for members of the public to capture evidence of reported precinct results when polls close tonight. Think of it as a giant neighborhood watch.

Precinct results should be posted at each polling site. In addition, during poll closing the public has a right to be in the polling place watching and videotaping what goes on.

Here is a four-minute video showing exactly what to do:

By the way, the results will be published here:

http://www.enr-scvotes.org/SC/36831/63425/en/select-county.html

Compare photos of what you capture at polling places to the results reported at the above link.

For computer buffs, there's another thing you can do. (The above steps are easy and can be done by anyone.) But for tech buffs, you can download multiple times during the evening, and there are even Web snapshot tools to expedite this. It is not uncommon to see results change or disappear midstream.

In Broward County FL, the results reported by Scytl-owned SOE Software in 2008 showed an entire candidate, who was winning, disappear into vapor in the middle of the count, and in Hillsborough County FL and Dallas County TX, votes that had been reported began to disappear.

The way to see this is to download "time slices" -- snapshots at various points in time, and compare them. More information for those of you who like technical stuff is available in the Black Box Voting Tool Kit -
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit.pdf

Follow Black Box Voting for further developments.

* Well, you have to put an asterisk alongside "the right results" because in South Carolinia you get a two-fer. Results could be incorrect at either end of the pipeline -- from the ES&S iVotronic paperless touchscreen voting machines, which have a history of incorrect totals, or from the private results reporting firm Scytl/SOE Software, which has centralized control over what gets reported.

http://www.blackboxvoting.org

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Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:51 AM

HKCAVALIER

WTF? This is news? Hmmm, lessee, of likely Republican voters(!) in South Carolina(!), 54% liked Gingrich's performance and 14% approved of the media. Shocking! The RWM (FOX) have been hammering away at the socalled MSM (which magically does not include FOX news--highest ratings, but not main stream--does that sound right to you?) for ten years and, surprise surprise, their base has been listening. Least informative poll since choosy mothers chose Jiff.

Love how Gingrich's 54% is the only high score printed as a number, all the others, including Santorum's 55% written out to deemphasize 'em, so hell-bent is the author on making this a piece about Gingrich winning.

And it's no surprise that Gingrich is doing so well, seeing how bold-facedly corrupt the Republican party has become. He's their gorram poster child. And his contemptuous sneer for everyone who's poor, not white, female or liberal out Cheneys Darth Cheney himself. It's almost funny that the evangelicals are flocking to this serial adulterer who converted to Catholicism so his wife wouldn't leave him in 2009 just as he was getting ready for this run on the White House.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Sunday, January 22, 2012 1:48 PM

JONGSSTRAW

President Newt? I just can't see it. Maybe if he changed his name to Knute he'd be more believeable.

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Sunday, January 22, 2012 3:45 PM

HERO

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
President Newt? I just can't see it. Maybe if he changed his name to Knute he'd be more believeable.

I always wondered about his name. Knute makes sense given Knute was a household name back then.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I agree with Hero." Niki2, 2011.

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Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:04 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

If I had to choose between Romney and Newt I guess I'd choose Romney because Newt is a hypocrite and goes on about family values but doesn't really have them himself. Of course I don't like Romney either because of what Frem says. Him being a Mormon doesn't bother me.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, January 23, 2012 5:10 AM

HERO

According to the internet Newt is short for Newton. That makes perfect sense.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I agree with Hero." Niki2, 2011.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 5:50 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

I could go with either Newt or Mitt over Obama, 24/7/365.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, January 23, 2012 6:13 AM

STORYMARK

Thats what derangement'll get ya.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, January 23, 2012 6:38 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Well, Cav pretty much covered it for me, so that's that. Thank you, Cav, that pretty much puts it to rest.

Oh, and if nobody's noticed, it's "final score"...I'm not sure what a "finale score" would be, except maybe the score for the last piece of music?

Riona, Newt is far more dangerous, in my opinion. One only has to look at his actions the last time he had ANY power in the government (as Speaker) to know he would be an incredible disaster. I just look at it that Romney might not do as much damage--those in REAL power behind him, might, tho'. But Gingrich, I see him as power-hungry and not completely in control of himself, gawd knows WHAT he could do!

Story...yup, except I don't believe it's derangement, as you know.

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