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POSTED BY: FREMDFIRMA
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Friday, January 27, 2012 9:01 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Funny how that works, innit ?

Welfare Drug Testing Bill Withdrawn After Amended To Include Testing Lawmakers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/welfare-drug-testing-bill_n_1
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Quote:

In the past year Republican lawmakers have pursued welfare drug testing in more than 30 states and in Congress, and some bills have even targeted people who claim unemployment insurance and food stamps, despite scanty evidence the poor and jobless are disproportionately on drugs. Democrats in several states have countered with bills to require drug testing elected officials. Indiana state Rep. Ryan Dvorak (D-South Bend) introduced just such an amendment on Friday.

"After it passed, Rep. McMillin got pretty upset and pulled his bill," Dvorak said. "If anything, I think it points out some of the hypocrisy. ... If we're going to impose standards on drug testing, then it should apply to everybody who receives government money."



Unless the same "rules" apply to EVERYONE, it's tyranny, period.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Friday, January 27, 2012 9:56 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Oh please. Stop your whining.


Some are simply MORE equal than others.


It's a scientific fact.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, January 28, 2012 9:56 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Whatever, Wilbur.

-F

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Saturday, January 28, 2012 10:11 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


The Animal Farm reference should have been clear enough.


The Homer Simpson line, not so much.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, January 28, 2012 10:15 AM

FREMDFIRMA



The fact that you feel the need to explain a joke I obviously got and then improved upon cause you assume everyone is as dumb as you are makes you look even stupider.

Here, have a banana peel.

-F

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Saturday, January 28, 2012 12:43 PM

HERO


I think all elected officials on welfare should be tested. Same for any that get food stamps.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I agree with Hero." Niki2, 2011.

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Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:37 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Oh it gets even better...
http://www.masson.us/blog/?p=8252
Quote:

Rep. Dvorak’s amendment to Rep. McMillin’s HB 1007 passed during second reading by a vote of 54 – 41 (with 4 excused and 1 not voting). It is an amendment to HB 1007 which provides for a test program whereby welfare recipients would be required to submit to and pass drug tests as a condition to receiving public benefits.

Apparently running with the notion that taxpayer dollars shouldn’t go to abusers of drugs and alcohol, Rep. Dvorak’s amendment requires legislators to submit to drug tests and a random breathalyzer test. They would have to reimburse the legislative council for the costs of these tests. If the legislator refused or failed the test, he or she would be subject to discipline or an assessed penalty by his or her chamber.

I’m hearing that, with this amendment, Rep. McMillin is no longer so enthusiastic about the bill and will not be moving it forward.


Proving that McMillin is just as fulla shit as the rest of em - epic political trolling this, perhaps we can eventually bait them into walking right off a cliff by telling them the other party did it first...
Morons, the whole bloody lot of them.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Sunday, January 29, 2012 4:57 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

The fact that you feel the need to explain a joke I obviously got and then improved upon cause you assume everyone is as dumb as you are makes you look even stupider.

Here, have a banana peel.

-F



You didn't GET it, clearly, and then you got angry when I explained it to you.

Expected.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:04 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I liked that story Frem. If they can't stand up and take it like a man then they shouldn't expect others to do it.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:16 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"You didn't GET it, clearly, and then you got angry when I explained it to you.

Expected."

Just an aside ... has anyone noticed the tremendous amount of projection little Rappy does?

Anyway, sorry to interrupt.

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Monday, January 30, 2012 8:17 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

Just an aside ... has anyone noticed the tremendous amount of projection little Rappy does?

Anyway, sorry to interrupt.



And yet, you overlook the projection by Frem,( and yourself ) entirely.


Fascinating.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, January 30, 2012 8:47 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oh, Frem, I LOVE IT! And it's right on; our legislators shouldn't be getting paid with our tax dollars if they're using drugs, so it's perfectly appropriate that they should undergo testing too. But that all these kinds of sick efforts could be so easily dealt with, we'd have so many fewer of them if they were!

Gotta give 'em points for imagination; it's not something I would have thought of and it's PERFECT!

Be neat if somene could turn around the anti-abortionists by saying anyone who is ACTIVE against choice should have to adopt a baby, but of course that's impossible...

p.s. In my opinion, it's not "projection", it's whatever he can pull out of thin air to goad people with. Doesn't work on those with any intelligence, obviously, but it usually DOES get a response...



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Monday, January 30, 2012 9:57 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:

Oh, Frem, I LOVE IT! And it's right on; our legislators shouldn't be getting paid with our tax dollars if they're using drugs, so it's perfectly appropriate that they should undergo testing too.



Then the Kennedy legacy sure would be one hell of a lot shorter, if this were indeed the case!

Quote:


p.s. In my opinion, it's not "projection", it's whatever he can pull out of thin air to goad people with. Doesn't work on those with any intelligence, obviously, but it usually DOES get a response...



Actually, it's more like hypocrisy than projection, and it's not pulled out of thin air at all. And I've even shown this to be the case. Being exactly what you accuse me of being.

You still don't get it. I wonder why.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, January 30, 2012 10:45 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

The fact that you feel the need to explain a joke I obviously got and then improved upon cause you assume everyone is as dumb as you are makes you look even stupider.

Here, have a banana peel.

-F



Well done.

Im surprised even he was that stupid, though I shouldn't be.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, January 30, 2012 10:46 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

The fact that you feel the need to explain a joke I obviously got and then improved upon cause you assume everyone is as dumb as you are makes you look even stupider.

Here, have a banana peel.

-F



You didn't GET it, clearly, and then you got angry when I explained it to you.

Expected.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "



Holy shit, you STILL didn't get the progression.

Wow.

Just... wow.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, January 30, 2012 10:47 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"You didn't GET it, clearly, and then you got angry when I explained it to you.

Expected."

Just an aside ... has anyone noticed the tremendous amount of projection little Rappy does?

Anyway, sorry to interrupt.



LOL!!

No kidding. Quoted for spot-fucking-on-edness.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, January 30, 2012 10:54 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



You don't even know what you're mocking me over now. This feigned enthusiasm is about as childish as it gets.

*yawn*


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, January 30, 2012 11:00 AM

STORYMARK


I know *exactly* why Im lauguhing at you.

Damn, son, I think everyone in the thread but you knows exactly what we're laughing at.

I'm still, frankly, amazed that you clearly do not. And I consider you one of the dumbest motherfuckers around - so my incredulity is reaching epic proportions right now.

(since you have made it clear you really, really don't know.... my use of the word "proghression" was a hint for ya.)

Just keep diggin'. You're making it funnier. Seriously - tell us WE don't know why we're laughing at you again. Please.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, January 30, 2012 11:49 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I love it!



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Monday, January 30, 2012 12:04 PM

STORYMARK


It's truly amazing. He must not have gotten the Wilbur reference, because if he had, he never would have tried to unnecessarily explain his joke. But then to obstinately insist that Frem is the one who didn't get it....

Hyperbole aside, I didn't think it was possible to think even less of the Raptard's "intellect."

But there ya go. Wonders never cease.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:34 AM

STORYMARK


Looks like Rappy realized he was in over his head and ran away. Delicious.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:10 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


No, I didn't get the Wilbur reference, as it didn't tie into anything relating to what I had said. It was nothing but an inane , meaningless crack. Owner of a talking horse ? yeah, what ever.

I was sorta agreeing w/ the original point, but never mind that, huh?

What followed was as childish and inconsequential as anything as ever has been on this board, so I felt no need to respond. It's not " running away " , in the least. It's just being bored w/ the nonsense, and not seeing any point in throwing mud at little piggies already covered in their own filth.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:51 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
No, I didn't get the Wilbur reference,



But we did.

Which is why it was so fucking funny to watch you insist you DID gtet it, and we didn't.

But hey, at least ya finally caught up. Only took ya a day. Well done.

Go ahead, go with "It was too childish to respond". It's just as transparent as the "No, YOU don't get it" bullshit you tried first.

Yep, still laughing at ya.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:00 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Quote:

But we did.

Which is why it was so fucking funny to watch you insist you DID gtet it, and we didn't.



Not caring, even a little.

But I suppose you think that it's such a monumental occasion , in your mind, to hang your hat on, by all means, yuk it up.

You're really traveling a long way to get such an empty pay off, but hey, knock yourselves out.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:25 AM

BYTEMITE


Charlotte is a spider.

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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:31 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Charlotte is a spider.



I think Mr Ed made more sense... oh well. Humor is subjective, clearly.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:59 AM

BYTEMITE


Ah.

*looks at charred battlefield*

Well, you're more successful at it than I am.

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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:17 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I don't think they were talking about Charlotte's Web, but maybe they should have been because that movie is cool, I loved it when I was a little girl and the new one with Dakota Fanning was cute too, but I will always like the cartoon one better because I grew up with it.

I used to think the sum of one and one was two, but we add up to more, me and you!

Yeah the immaturity displayed in this thread is rather baffling and astounding all in one. And people slag on me for being immature (scoffs at humanity)

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, March 6, 2012 8:50 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
I think all elected officials on welfare should be tested. Same for any that get food stamps.




Then here's your cup, prosecutor. You ARE on welfare, aren't you? I mean, you DO get paid by the taxpayers for basically doing nothing but surfing the internet, right?

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