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Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:53 AM

WHOZIT


http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2012/02/bacon-milkshake-jack-in-the-box-
gives-us-a-1081-calorie-reason-to-go-veggie.html


I bet the 1st Lady could suck these down all day long. She talks vegan, but then we see pics of her shoving cheesbugers into her face while on vacation. I love bacon, (greatest breakfast meat ever) but this thing may make me


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Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:56 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I do not think that link is what you think it is.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:58 AM

WHOZIT


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I do not think that link is what you think it is.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "



Link fixed, sorry.

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Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:00 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Got it.

And 'yuck'.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:28 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Big deal. Has the same calories as one of their regular shakes, and just some bacon flavor in it - no real bacon. I'm figuring it tastes like when you get the maple syrup from your pancakes on your bacon.

Since I live in a Jack-in-the-Box-free zone, I'll never know.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:04 AM

FIVVER


Personally, I can't wait for that hyper-annoying Geico (wee wee weeeee) pig to wind up on my plate a Waffle House!

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Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:12 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by whozit:
http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2012/02/bacon-milkshake-jack-in-the-box-
gives-us-a-1081-calorie-reason-to-go-veggie.html


I bet the 1st Lady could suck these down all day long. She talks vegan, but then we see pics of her shoving cheesbugers into her face while on vacation. I love bacon, (greatest breakfast meat ever) but this thing may make me





I can find no sourcing for the claim that Michelle Obama is "vegan". Could it be that you don't know what that word means?

Meanwhile, if I want bacon, I'll likely just have some actual bacon instead. Bacon really doesn't have that many calories; it's the sodium that's its big downside.


"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:43 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by fivver:
Personally, I can't wait for that hyper-annoying Geico (wee wee weeeee) pig to wind up on my plate a Waffle House!



Yeah. Whenever I see the zipline commercial, I wish I was there with a shotgun to yell "Pull!"

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Saturday, February 11, 2012 7:21 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2012/02/bacon-milkshake-jack-in-the-box-
gives-us-a-1081-calorie-reason-to-go-veggie.html


I bet the 1st Lady could suck these down all day long. She talks vegan, but then we see pics of her shoving cheesbugers into her face while on vacation. I love bacon, (greatest breakfast meat ever) but this thing may make me





I can find no sourcing for the claim that Michelle Obama is "vegan". Could it be that you don't know what that word means?

Meanwhile, if I want bacon, I'll likely just have some actual bacon instead. Bacon really doesn't have that many calories; it's the sodium that's its big downside.


"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill



You may be right she may not be a true vegan, but how may times have we seen her eatting something with lobster in it, while she wants to dictate what to feed YOUR kids. I bet she's in the White House now sucking down a Bacon Milkshake and eatting lobster covered in bacon and smuthered in cheese, and for dessert a cheese cake covered in chocolate and strawberrys. Meanwhile she makes Barry chew on tree bark, that's why his ass is so skinney.

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Saturday, February 11, 2012 7:29 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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Could it be that you don't know what that word means?
Oh, Mike, you know perfectly well he doesn't CARE what a "word" means...he just wants an excuse to put SOMETHING up so he can connect it to something/somebody totally unrelatd and snark. Why bother?

As to the pig thing, I'm with 'ya. There was another ad a while back that used some screeching "wheee" pig--I forget for what product, which is appropriate because it was equally irritating. They're two I immediately reach for the "mute" when I see the first flash...generally fast enough not to hear any of it. What it has to do with Geico I have no idea, however; it's almost a "whozit connection", as in completely unconnected.

"Pull!"



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Saturday, February 11, 2012 7:30 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by fivver:
Personally, I can't wait for that hyper-annoying Geico (wee wee weeeee) pig to wind up on my plate a Waffle House!



Little piggie has a partner in the catagory of most annoying ad character.

Radio ads -






" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, February 11, 2012 7:40 AM

FIVVER


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2012/02/bacon-milkshake-jack-in-the-box-
gives-us-a-1081-calorie-reason-to-go-veggie.html


I bet the 1st Lady could suck these down all day long. She talks vegan, but then we see pics of her shoving cheesbugers into her face while on vacation. I love bacon, (greatest breakfast meat ever) but this thing may make me





I can find no sourcing for the claim that Michelle Obama is "vegan". Could it be that you don't know what that word means?

Meanwhile, if I want bacon, I'll likely just have some actual bacon instead. Bacon really doesn't have that many calories; it's the sodium that's its big downside.


"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill



You may be right she may not be a true vegan, but how may times have we seen her eatting something with lobster in it, while she wants to dictate what to feed YOUR kids. I bet she's in the White House now sucking down a Bacon Milkshake and eatting lobster covered in bacon and smuthered in cheese, and for dessert a cheese cake covered in chocolate and strawberrys. Meanwhile she makes Barry chew on tree bark, that's why his ass is so skinney.




And when Michelle told Barry she was hungry enough to eat a horse:

http://www.louisville.com/content/obama-administration-oks-horse-meat-
americans-opinion-arena


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Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:10 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


In the interest of fairness, just to point out: "a law passed by congress that lifts the 5-year-old ban on federal funding for horse meat inspections". Law passed by Congress, not law made up by Obama, and if it's a 5-year-old ban, then it was okay BEFORE the ban, again having nothing to do with Obama. Just sayin'.



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Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:38 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Yeah, how DID that ban get stripped out of that spending bill, anyway? Sources aren't easy to find, but all indicators point to a couple Republicans - Jack Kingston (R-GA) and Tom Cole (R-OK) - who stripped out the language that's been in effect for years which banned horse slaughter in the U.S.

http://www.snopes.com/critters/edibles/horses.asp


I'm surprised none of our right-wingers have jumped all over you for not telling the whole story.

Oh, wait; no, I'm not surprised at all by that.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:53 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I've never understood the controversy around eating horses. My only concern (and it is a concern that continues to concern me) is that we treat our animals as best we can. We owe them that.

We are failing in that duty, but that failure is not exclusive to horses.

--Anthony



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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner


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Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:20 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Horses were gonna get et anyways and kilt anyways. Why force them into a far worse last experience by shipping them into Mexico ? The 'ban' served no purpose.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:58 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Yup, meat involves killing something. I'm not sure why one animal deserves death and another doesn't. Keep them well. Kill them quickly,

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Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:46 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I love bacon, yum!

Yeah that pig on the Geico commercials is obnoxious, but Jennifer loves it, she can't wait for them to come out with a new commercial with it on it. Niki, the pig was used in a previous Geico commercial a little while back, and he must have been so popular that they are now using him for more.

I personally don't believe in eating horse meat and it isn't something I would encourage, I believe that horses are unique animals who help people in many ways and have helped people in many ways for milenia, so I wouldn't want to eat them. But if someone else wants to I wouldn't take that right away from them. The only time I would eat it is if I was in some other country and I would be mean if I said no, I wouldn't want to offend Genghis Khan's great great great great ... grandson now would I? :))

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:37 AM

CAVETROLL


My personal ethics prevent me from eating an animal kept as a pet. No cats, no dogs, no rodents, fish, etc. Rabbits kept for meat, okay. Horses kept for drayage or riding, okay. Pretty much the rest of the barnyard is okay as well.

But I cannot abide any animal suffering. If you must kill an animal, do it quickly, cleanly, and humanely. Instead of stuffing the horse or cow into a chute and making it walk into a building that smells of death and blood, shoot it between the eyes in a field. Sure, it will require a fork lift or a front end loader to get it to the slaughterhouse, but the animal won't die in fear.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2012 4:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
I bet the 1st Lady could suck these down all day long. She talks vegan, but then we see pics of her shoving cheesbugers into her face while on vacation. I love bacon, (greatest breakfast meat ever) but this thing may make me



I'm so proud of America and how far we come.

If it were 1960, that joke would have would have consisted of sucking down fried chicken instead of lobster.

DISCLAIMER: In my mind, Obama and his family's antics, forgiving politics, are just as bad, if not worse than Bush Jr. were. The only difference is that Obama's kids are too young for us to see if they're rebel-sluts like Bush's kids acted out. I feel sorry for any of the Chelsie's, Jenna's, Barbara's, Malia's and Natasha's in these equations.

Chelsie was a "dog"
Bushes kids were "sluts"
What will Obama's daughters be remembered as?

Thank god for Malia and Natasha that they're young enough not to be Enquirer headlines and nobody compares either one of them to dogs.



I feel sorry for all of those kids. It was bad enough living my dysfunctional childhood without the public eye scrutinizing my every move. None of them asked for any public exposure, but that's what they inherited when their Daddy wanted to be the big man.

For some reason, it seems to bother me even more this time around that the last two though.

Malia and Natasha are just old enough where if Barry makes a second term they will start getting the public crap, and not "awwwwwww... just look at how cute Jackie K 2.0 dressed them up in her Marc Jacobs line".

If these kids have any chance at a normal future Mr Barry will focus on his own kids lives and Mrs Barry will ditch her "you should all be vegan while I eat steak" mentality. They've already got more money than God and will have no problem sending their daughters to prestigious schools. Hopefully they can then do their best to shield their innocent daughters from the idiot paparazzi while they better themselves.



The office of the President has always been held in the public to be sacred if held by a "family man". I disagree. Why did Peter Parker, Bruce Wayne, and Clark Kent hide their real life from everyone? Because a real hero would never flaunt their children in the public eye or allow their ambitious gold digging wife to do the same.

Presidents, in my lifetime, at least since Clinton held office, are nothing more than mere puppets and Enquirer fodder.

If it even mattered that Barry was in office, we wouldn't even know his daughter's name, especially post 9/1.

Nope...

The gears will always turn.

The pendulum will always swing.

In the end, it's all just a two-sided coin.

As long as there's no revolution, there is only one outcome that was planned decades ago.

It is what it is. This is life in America now. I'm not trying to change anything.

All I'm saying, is I'm sorry for all of the innocient children dragged through the mud on the way there.

I hated 80% of my childhood growing up. If I were in the spotlight like these kids were, in this shitty world we live in, I'd have probably have downed a bottle of pills with a vodka chaser just to get their attention.




Good luck to you Malia and Natasha.

The first term your Daddy had was just a joy ride for you.

Somewhere in the middle of the second term, when you get old enough to realize that you want some privacy and that you're not going to get it, it's going to drive you crazy.

It's hard enough trying to hide things from parents when it's just you and them....

Good luck overcoming the paparazzi through 2016!

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:00 PM

OONJERAH



I have an acquaintance who grew up on a pig farm in the midwest. He says, When
you crate them up & load 'em to ship, a lotta the pigs know where they are going.

I am against raising for meat any animal that's evolved enough to be self-aware.
Poultry and fish are OK. Sheep and cattle are OK. Pigs & goats are not OK.
Horses are definitely not OK.

I respect animals.

As for what the First Lady says & does, I couldn't care less.


"All I suggest is a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest" ~Paul Simon

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Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I have mixed opinions about that Oonjerah,

The Jewish people won't eat Pigs, but it's because they're not kosher. (Translation: They're practically vermin, or maybe even a step below because they roll around in their own fecal matter to keep cool in the sun.)

Granted, this behavior may be 100% instinctual on their parts, but after being domesticated they have places of mud to roll around in that they haven't just crapped on, yet they show no desire to distinguish between the two.

I saw Charlotte's Web when I was a kid and felt bad about eating pigs for a day or two afterward, but every time I went to Denny's for a grand slam breakfast I always ordered the bacon over the sausages.

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Bacon!

I've never eaten a Goat or a Horse before though. Can't say I know a thing about their intelligence levels, but regardless, eating either of them sounds about as gross as eating a dog or cat to me.



If I was a more religious man, I would probably say that any animal is fair game, so long as the deaths were humane and nothing went to waste, but, I'm willing to draw a line though. I would never eat dolphins, whales, or any sort of primate.

At the same time though, I'm not about to jump on the crew of "Whale Wars" against the Japanese. It's easy to tell Japan they can't eat whales when we have 100's of millions of yummy cows to slaughter here every year. They live on a vastly overpopulated island that has so little room for golf courses that it can cost 1000k USD to play one 18hole round of golf. I'm sure they don't have vast plains of cow grazing farms there. What are they supposed to eat for protien? Dogs, Cats and beans?

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:27 PM

OONJERAH



Quote 6ixStringJack: "They live on a vastly overpopulated island that has so little room for golf courses that it can cost 1000k USD
to play one 18-hole round of golf. I'm sure they don't have vast plains of cow grazing farms there. What are they supposed to eat
for protein? Dogs, Cats and beans?"

Big Macs.

They are supposed to export their ppl to underpopulated areas: AU, Canada, Montana. They should bring money.

Or they can stay home & eat radioactive stuff.

I've been told that pigs only roll in fecal matter when they live in a small pen that no one cleans. i.e, When they have no choice.
I assumed, without confirmation, that Jews & Moslems found pigs to be unclean due to trichinosis.

A goy will eat anything. Suspect a dog will, too.


"All I suggest is a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest" ~Paul Simon

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Friday, February 17, 2012 8:32 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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What are they supposed to eat for protien?
Well, that shouldn't need to be even asked. Fish, of course. They live on an island, remember?
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Fish, like red meat and poultry, is high in protein. The exact protein content of a piece of fish depends on the type of fish and how it was prepared, but ounce-for-ounce many varieties have comparable protein contents to chicken, pork and beef. http://www.ehow.com/about_5340746_much-protein-fish.html we Americans eat far too LITTLE of.

As to whaling, I call bullshit. There are many alternatives, to begin with, and
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During recent international debates concerning the potential resumption of commercial whaling, whale meat has frequently been promoted as a good food. Recent research into the diet of Faroe Islanders and Inuit Indians has revealed that consumption of marine mammal tissues can cause them to exceed recommended intake levels for various pollutants. Whales throughout the world have been found to accumulate high concentrations of lipophilic compounds and, while the precise health risks associated are unclear, the findings for the Faroe Islanders and Inuits may prove not to be unique, particularly if commercial whaling is resumed. http://www.emeraldinsight.com/journals.htm?articleid=870228&show=h
tml
the same is probably true of a steady diet of fish, given the life span of a whale, one might extrapolate that they accumulate more levels of toxins. I don't know enough to debate the issue.

Also as to whaling, they can easily be considered MORE sentient than beef, goats, pigs, chickens or any of the other animals we eat. The Japanese hunt whales for a number of reasons, few having to do with diet, or even taste, but most having to do with culture and pride.
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This history is an important part of why the Japanese continue to hunt whales. Attempts to stop the nation's whaling are perceived by many as a threat to Japanese culture. According to its defenders, eating whale meat is an old and impenetrable Japanese tradition.

A sense of pride also fuels Japan's commitment to whaling. To some, the words and actions of those who oppose Japanese whaling are "culturally arrogant" and unnecessarily harsh. This only serves to strengthen the country's resolve to maintain its whaling, according to some. http://animal.discovery.com/tv/whale-wars/whaling/why-japanese-hunt-wh
ales.html
issue is not whether they hunt them, it's SUSTAINABILITY. The Japanese would happily hunt whales until there are no more whales left, that's the crux of the problem.
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The official reason that Japan gives for their continued whale hunting is "scientific research". They say the only way to determine the whale's age is to kill it. The purpose of the "research" is to prove that whale populations have improved enough to allow commercial whaling which was banned by the International Whaling Commission in 1986.

However, the whale meat is sold as a delicacy. It is likely this is the real reason for the whale hunting. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_do_the_Japanese_hunt_whales use all kinds of ruses to hunt whales which have little or nothing to do with "scientific research" and there is lots of material on this.

In that respect it's the same as their horrendous practice of "finning". Shark fins are a delicacy, not a necessity, and are relatively tasteless, but again we run into "tradition". While once considered only available to the rich, Japan's economy is such that now the middle class can afford it. And they do, to the detriment of many beyond the sharks themselves.

The predator/prey balance is delicate, and as usual, man's interference has upset this.
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In some waters, several shark species have all but vanished since 1972, including 99% of the bull, dusky and smooth hammerhead populations.

And because fishing expeditions tend to catch larger individuals, the average size of the survivors has plummeted. Mighty animals like the tiger and black-tip sharks are now up to half as long as they used to be.

Unsuprisingly, as the sharks declined, their prey benefited. Great sharks mainly hunt smaller predators, including their close relatives skates, rays, and indeed, smaller sharks, whose numbers surged in their absence.

The cownose ray, for example, is now ten times more common than it was in the mid-70s.

And here’s where the domino effects begin.

It turns out that large sharks inadvertently carry out a sort of protection racket for animals at the bottom of the food chain.By taking out the mid-level predators, they prevented these lesser hunters from decimating stocks of small fish and invertebrates.

In 1996, the ray explosion started to spell the end for the scallops. By 2004, the local North Carolina scallop fisheries which had thrived for centuries were forced to close and remain closed to this day. Little did the locals imagine that the disappearance of dangerous sharks from their waters could have such strongly felt economic consequences.

This is far from an isolated incident. In Ariake Sound off Japan, shark fishing is particularly intense, and a booming population of long-headed eagle rays has decimated shellfish populations just like their cownose cousins in the Atlantic. http://notexactlyrocketscience.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/shark-hunting-
harms-animals-at-bottom-of-the-food-chain/
usual, man is short-sighted and dumb when it comes to his proclivities.

Whaling and finning are two issues close to my heart, so tho' I know this is off the subject of bacon, etc., it's important to me. You have NO idea how long and hard we fought to finally get the IWC to ban some whaling, and how much we celebrated when they finally DID (always knowing, as usual, that it would only be a partial success and that it could be reversed any time).



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Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:28 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Shark finning is yucky to me partly because they only take the fin and don't use the rest of the shark, they could totally eat more of it if they wanted to.

Whaling: This might sound bad but I can sort of see both sides of this issue. Innuit hunt whales, in a controlled fashion, and I'm totally okay with this. Can I be okay with Innuit doing it and opposed to Japanese doing it? The Japanese hunt too many and I think that's the bigger problem. I like whales and think they're really intelligent, so on one hand I don't like them being hunted, but can I get away with having a different standard for the Innuit than I have for the Japanese? I'll need to think on this one.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Sunday, February 19, 2012 8:46 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"... can I get away with having a different standard for the Innuit than I have for the Japanese?"

I'd say yes. The Inuit hunt out of necessity; there isn't that much else there to eat. The Japanese hunt b/c whale meat is a luxury food that brings a good price to the whaler and status to the consumer; ie eating whale meat is a matter of choice, similar to eating shark fin.

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Monday, February 20, 2012 3:16 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


True, but the Japanese can claim that their ancestors have been doing it for a long time too, so should I be denying them that right to connect with their ancestors, especially since that's a big thing culturally, connection to one's ancestors.

But yeah, the Innuit need the meat because its nye on impossible to ship and pay for all the neat they'd need up there if they didn't have the whale hunt.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, February 20, 2012 3:25 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Niki2:.








No. You really aren't.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, February 20, 2012 4:14 PM

OONJERAH



The Innuit are native Americans.
It's been required by law to have different laws for native Americans.

Examples: I can't use peyote, but the Indians can.
Inside the California state lines, only Indians can own & operate casinos.

Therefore a double standard must be applied to the Innuit.
OTOH, if they use dog sleds still, probably more than half their meat goes to the huskies.
To prevent dogs from eating whales, we must all send Gravy Train to the Innuit.


"All I suggest is a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest" ~Paul Simon

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Monday, February 20, 2012 6:43 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Sometimes they still use dogs, but they often use snow mobiles etc. as well, it just depends on the person, some of them use both if traveling in a large group, like when they go whaling.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, February 20, 2012 6:52 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by Niki2:.








No. You really aren't.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "



Hello,

Well, she's at least greater than the sum of your parts, I'd wager.

--Anthony



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Monday, February 20, 2012 6:53 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Anthony.

I was commenting on the mob rule nonsense that is the occupy babies. YOU went and tried to make it personal.

Why do you think that is ?


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:29 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Anthony.

I was commenting on the mob rule nonsense that is the occupy babies. YOU went and tried to make it personal.

Why do you think that is ?


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "



Hello,

You just made a left-field jab at someone's signature line. Now you've called them and their friends babies.

You make things personal, Raptor. I'm flawed enough to oblige on occasion.

I consider my observation to be valid.

--Anthony



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