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Gettin' yer freak on at the TSA

POSTED BY: NIKI2
UPDATED: Monday, February 20, 2012 15:13
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Friday, February 17, 2012 10:30 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


What a bunch of creeps!
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Women passengers complain that TSA agents are targeting them for extra screening.

The Transportation Security Administration has a policy to randomly select people for extra screening, but some female passengers are complaining. They believe there is nothing “random” about the way they were picked.

A Dallas woman says TSA agents repeatedly asked her to step back into a body scanning machine at DFW International Airport. “I feel like I was totally exposed,” said Ellen Terrell, who is a wife and mother. “They wanted a nice good look.” When Ellen Terrell and her husband, Charlie, flew out of DFW Airport several months ago, Terrell says she was surprised by a question a female TSA agent asked her. “She says to me, ‘Do you play tennis?’ And I said, ‘Why?’ She said, ‘You just have such a cute figure.’”

Terrell says she walked into the body scanner which creates an image that a TSA agent in another room reviews. Terrell says she tried to leave, but the female agent stopped her. “She says, ‘Wait, we didn’t get it,’” recalls Terrell, who claims the TSA agent sent her back a second time and even a third. But that wasn’t good enough.

After the third time, Terrell says even the agent seemed frustrated with her co-workers in the other room. “She’s talking into her microphone and she says, ‘Guys, it is not blurry, I’m letting her go. Come on out.’”

When TSA agents do a pat down on a traveler, only female agents are allowed to touch female passengers. But the TSA allows male agents to view the images of female passengers.


(I mean, SERIOUSLY??)

Ellen and Charlie Terrell are convinced that the extra screenings were unnecessary, possibly even voyeuristic. “I think it’s sexual harassment if you’re run through there a third or fourth time,“ responded Texas State Representative Lon Burnam of Fort Worth. “And this is not the first time I have heard about it,” said Burnam, who adds that a number of his constituents have voiced concerns about privacy.

CBS 11 News dug through more than 500 records of TSA complaints and found a pattern of women who believe that there was nothing random about the way they were selected for extra screening. TSA redacted the names of the passengers who complained, but here are quotations from several complaints.

•“I feel I was targeted by the TSA employee to go through the see-you-naked machine because I am a semi-attractive female.”

•“The screener appeared to enjoy the process of picking someone rather than doing true random screening. I felt this was inappropriate. A woman behind me was also “randomly selected.”

•“TSA staff ‘trolling’ the lines looking for people to pull out was unprofessional.”

•“After that, I saw him going to the private room where x-rays are, to speak to the guy on that room.”

•“I know he went to that room to see my naked body through the machine with the other guy.”

•“When I looked around, I saw that there were only women that were “told” to go through this machine. There were no men.”

•“Maklng American citizens unwilling victims of a peep show by TSA employees using full body imaging devices is an over-the-top invasion of privacy to which I strenuously object.”

CBS 11 News first contacted the TSA in mid-January to request a one-on-one interview on camera. A TSA spokesperson told us that no one was available for that kind of interview. The TSA held a news conference the following week. “Privacy issues is the main point,” said Amy Williams, Federal Security Director for Dallas Love Field. http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/02/03/female-passengers-say-theyre-target
ed-by-tsa/
, "2/13/2012 update: This story has led to new legislation being introduced in the U.S. Senate."
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One of the most powerful senators in the country is taking action after watching a CBS 11 investigation. Democratic Senator Charles Schumer from New York saw our story uncovering a pattern of women complaining about the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) agents. Now, Senator Schumer wants to give passengers a way to complain if they feel mistreated.

Senator Schumer kicked off his news conference in New York on Sunday by referencing Ellen Terrell, the female passenger who spoke out to CBS 11 earlier this month.

And, Schumer was not only familiar with Terrell’s claims but also the complaints our investigation exposed from other female travelers.

The Senator announced that he is introducing legislation this week that will mandate TSA post passenger advocates at every airport in the country who can be summoned by passengers to hear their concerns if they feel they’ve been inappropriately treated by TSA officers.

The RIGHTS act would specifically:

•Require the TSA to establish an “Office for Passenger Support”

•Require every airport where TSA operates to have at least one TSA Passneger Advocate on duty at all times

•Mandate every airport where TSA operates to have clearly visible signage explaining that a TSA passenger advocate can be summoned

•Establish best practices to resolve frequent public complaints and conduct training of TSA officers to resolve frequently occurring passenger complaints

•And field advance notification calls from individuals with medical conditions or disabilities to pre-arrange for a screening process at the airport that ensures the safety of the flight without causing undue hardship for the disabled passneger.

In response to the proposed legislation, Ellen Terrell told CBS 11 she likes the idea of a passenger advocate. She believes the Senator is on the “right track.” Terrell, however, would like a “third party, unbiased person” to become the passenger advocate, not a TSA agent. http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/02/13/cbs-11-investigation-leads-to-new-t
sa-legislation/
ho, investigative journalism ISN'T (completely) dead!

This one blows my mind!
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Most people feel annoyed and a little exposed when they find a TSA inspection note in their luggage. But when blogger Jill Filipovic opened her suitcase after a recent flight, she got a personalized (read: invasive) message along with her notice.

Filipovic, a lawyer who writes for the site Feministe, saw that one ever-so-discreet TSA inspector had written some encouraging words on the note he or she slipped into her bag. “Get your freak on girl” read the scribbled remark. And to what did Filipovic owe this bit of unexpected support? The TSA screener had apparently found Filipovic’s vibrator in the bag.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/10/26/tsa-agent-leaves-creepy-message-fo
r-traveler-on-inspection-note/
just voyeuristic, but stupid, too, apparently:
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Vanessa Gibbs, 17, says the Transportation Security Administration stopped her at the security gate because of the design of a gun on her handbag. Gibbs was heading home to Norfolk, Virginia from Jacksonville after the holiday weekend when an agent flagged her purse as a security risk.

After agents concluded that the gun was pure decoration, TSA officials told Gibbs to check the bag or turn it over, she told News 4 JAX.



Gibbs, who is pregnant, had missed her flight by the time security finished inspecting the bag. Southwest Airlines sent her to Orlando instead, without telling her worried mother, who was waiting for her in Jacksonville.

Vanessa and her mother were skeptical that anyone could mistake the design on the purse for a real gun because of its small size and the fact that it’s hollow. http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/12/04/young-gun-teen-stopped-by-tsa-over
-pistol-embroidered-purse/

Okay, I now agree with every awful thing you guys have said about TSA and their "terrorism deterrent" methods!

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Friday, February 17, 2012 11:08 AM

BYTEMITE


Y'mean you didn't before?

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Friday, February 17, 2012 11:11 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I definitely didn't LIKE the TSA, but I was less convinced about this kind of thing back when it was a big topic of discussion here. I guess, as often, I underestimated what slime some men can be...

Don't anymore, tho'!



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Friday, February 17, 2012 11:13 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


"I guess, as often, I underestimated what slime some men can be..."

Hello,

Um, pardon, but wasn't one of the slimeballs a female TSA worker complementing another female on her rockin' bod?

--Anthony



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Friday, February 17, 2012 11:14 AM

BYTEMITE


Huh. Well, you always were supportive about my ideas on how to undermine them, so you must have had some objections to their methods before.

Anthony: I think it might be fair to say that everyone who works for TSA may well be a slimeball, man or woman, even if they don't engage in this, simply for supporting a system where it's so easy to abuse.

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Friday, February 17, 2012 7:27 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Huh. Well, you always were supportive about my ideas on how to undermine them, so you must have had some objections to their methods before.

Anthony: I think it might be fair to say that everyone who works for TSA may well be a slimeball, man or woman, even if they don't engage in this, simply for supporting a system where it's so easy to abuse.



Yup. They're basically the contractors working for the Empire, building the Death Star.





"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, February 17, 2012 7:45 PM

WISHIMAY


They strip searched my 85 year old granny. She has friends she probably won't ever see again, because she was so humiliated she refuses to fly, and can't take a long trip in a car...
I wish ta god I'd been there- I'll show you some freakin' uncivil disobedience

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Saturday, February 18, 2012 1:12 PM

FREMDFIRMA



And yet their answer to this more government, more offices, more trotters in the trough, as usual.

All for a bunch of Security Theatre which not only doesn't protect us whatever, but allows them to CREATE terrorist "incidents" to self-justify their own existence, something I'll address in another thread...

Again, past a certain point ignorance is no excuse, and when one puts on the jackboot and zips it up of their own free will, all else that follows is their own responsibility and no sympathy will be forthcoming from me.

You start takin their money, you wind up takin their orders and when you choose not to play along you'll be fired, walked to the door and blackballed from future employment in the security biz, which is why I warn people off no matter how good the money is, and I will NOT employ someone who has worked their without overwhelming proof they're not a schmuck - so far every former TSA who's even applied has been a total goosestepper looking for an employment related excuse to harm or harrass people, save one, and him I cannot hire BECAUSE he got blacklisted...

And how ?
His partner deliberately and with malice aforethough pulled an underage girl out of line for the sole excuse of groping her, and he was really blatant about it to where other passengers started getting rowdy, and THEN started tryin to justify a friggin strip search based on her freaking out - this was either before they adjusted the searches to make sure women searched women, etc, although that's still not 100% cause who's gonna buck the jackboot when it lands on your face and you have no one to appeal to eh ?

Anyhow, the creepy partner and the supervisor were debating it and the decent guy in question put his foot down and made an "issue" of it, and thus was summarily fired and walked to the door, then not only blackballed, but criminally investigated and harrassed, what with the investigators asking leading questions to spread forth the rumor that HE was the pervert and this cost him his marriage, kid and many social contacts - AND I cannot hire him cause he's been red-flagged.

The other creep ?
They promoted him - SUPPOSEDLY to get him behind a desk and away from the public, but still, what message does a thing like this send, I ask you.

Almost everyone who works for, is willing to work for, TSA/DHS is pure scum - and I only say almost cause there's maybe three guys with certain jobs that don't interact with the public that DO provide actual security, but you don't need all the hoo-rah to do those.
Oh yes, and the local TSA goons have WHINED in a couple editorials about being refused service at local businesses and/or being scorned and mocked by the general public.

I feast upon those tears, you know I do.
(and wrote a counter-editorial they didn't deign to publish cause it was "too hostile")

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Sunday, February 19, 2012 8:07 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Its been way out of hand for a long time. My airport seems to be better than most about it though.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, February 20, 2012 4:06 AM

CAVETROLL


The TSA is security theater. Nothing more. "Look here proles! See! We are protecting you!"

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Monday, February 20, 2012 3:13 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Call me bad but the title made me laugh.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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