REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

She's Alive... Beautiful... Finite... Hurting... Worth Dying for.

POSTED BY: 1KIKI
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Monday, February 27, 2012 3:19 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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Monday, February 27, 2012 3:24 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


False comparison, breathing to the ebb and flow of tide.

Don't see how hurricanes , forest fires and natural events equate to the planet 'hurting'.

But fun photography, I suppose.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, February 27, 2012 3:30 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


That posting title is the most emotion I've ever seen come out of Kiki. Just a thought.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, February 27, 2012 4:07 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
That posting title is the most emotion I've ever seen come out of Kiki. Just a thought.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya



Hello,

She's always seemed rather passionate to me.

--Anthony

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Monday, February 27, 2012 4:32 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"False comparison, breathing to the ebb and flow of tide."

Well, that just shows how little you know.

But there's more on display than your ignorance, which you have in plenty.

Did you see that Dian Fossey was hacked to death by poachers? Fossey, who was no partisan, no police, no threat. Why no comment? Surely it's something shocking, or if not shocking, deeply disturbing. Doesn't it beg for some reaction?

Or are you the small-minded little gollum you appear to be? Would those poachers need to have shouted "Allahu Akbar" for it to register - otherwise, it's a non-event?

I figured as much.


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Monday, February 27, 2012 7:31 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"False comparison, breathing to the ebb and flow of tide."

Well, that just shows how little you know.

But there's more on display than your ignorance, which you have in plenty.



How little I know, my ignorance... yes, yes. But you've not shown any correlation to tidal forces affecting bodies of water and the act of breathing in oxygen and expelling CO2 by a living organism.

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Did you see that Dian Fossey was hacked to death by poachers? Fossey, who was no partisan, no police, no threat. Why no comment? Surely it's something shocking, or if not shocking, deeply disturbing. Doesn't it beg for some reaction?

Or are you the small-minded little gollum you appear to be? Would those poachers need to have shouted "Allahu Akbar" for it to register - otherwise, it's a non-event?

I figured as much.




Oh, by all means, go right on ahead. The conversation you're having with yourself works just fine for me. Offering my own views isn't enough, now is it? You feel compelled to tell us what we're suppose to think ? All while adding petty little insults while you're at it.

Crassic.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, February 27, 2012 8:03 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


" But you've not shown any correlation to tidal forces affecting bodies of water and the act of breathing in oxygen and expelling CO2 by a living organism."

There you go. http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=tidal+water+oxygenation&hl=en&as_s
dt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=Am1MT-6bN-KciQKcuKWEDw&sqi=2&ved=0CBgQgQMwAA
Now, when you've learned something come back and tell me tides aren't like breathing.


Oh I'm pretty sure most of us know that if it had been done by Muslims you'd have been all over it.

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Monday, February 27, 2012 9:21 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I like the poeticalness of comparing the tide ebbing and flowing to the earth breathing, that is a beautiful image worthy of a good song that I would be willing to perform, note that I'm picky, no pop for me.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:34 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


So 1KIKI, you going to join NIKI2's 'I wish there were no people' campaign?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:06 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Syncing up time lapsed video to the sounds of breathing sure is clever, but it's not entirely accurate.

Not real sure what you mean w/ your Muslim comment.

Edit: unless, kiki, you're referring to what some radical muslims like to say, that they love death more than we love life? That what ya mean?

Kinda goes counter to the point of the thread, don't it?


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:40 AM

BYTEMITE


Earth's about as alive as any of us. In the sense that we're all chemical reactions.

But, I'm no kind of romantic. I just think in terms to cause and effect and necessity. So I don't disagree with the conclusion.

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:50 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Earth's about as alive as any of us. In the sense that we're all chemical reactions.

But, I'm no kind of romantic. I just think in terms to cause and effect and necessity. So I don't disagree with the conclusion.



Easy to think of the Earth as 'alive' and our moon as 'dead'. But what of Saturn? Jupiter, Europa ? Titan ? There's lots of exchanging of gasses and heaving about going on in those atmospheres, right? Maybe no reproducing going on, but don't those planets have some sort of activity going on?


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:52 AM

BYTEMITE


That's the point I was getting at. We're all basically just a glob of active or inert chemicals.

Everything also technically comes from stardust, but thinking about that too much starts to get into that whole romantic thing I try to eschew.

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:41 AM

FREMDFIRMA



I saw a truly awesome short film about that (with lots of SCIENCE!) at the observatory just outside Reno Nevada the day before pokeys wedding.

They also had a pretty cool one about dolphins and the levels of communication they have with each other.

I found it kinda depressing though that we were the only ones there while the casinos were full, the caretaker was actually surprised to even have visitors and went all out, even went and made popcorn for us.

But that we're all stardust meme, I've never seen it done better than I did that day.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:47 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Riona, the title of the video comes from the title of the video on You Tube, it's not Kiki's wording. Just so's you know.

I don't get where it's "ebb and flow of tide"...most of it is lakes and glaciers, from what I see.

Sure beautiful, tho'.



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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:14 AM

WISHIMAY


Well there's a 1 in 625 chance there won't be a messed up earth with it's messed up people in 30 years...

I wonder if a serious threat of extinction would actually make some people stop fighting for a few seconds...Somehow I doubt it...

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:33 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Well there's a 1 in 625 chance there won't be a messed up earth with it's messed up people in 30 years...

I wonder if a serious threat of extinction would actually make some people stop fighting for a few seconds...Somehow I doubt it...



I too have become pessimistic on issue as well. Of course, it doesn't help matters when we have such outlandish cries w/ regards to the environment and the climate. Important matters, perhaps, but not extinction level issues. Not now, not ever. Not on a global scale.

Objects coming from outer space? Solar flares ? Very real threats.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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