Chicago thug politics - Obama's tyrannical DOJ in action. by AURaptor

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Chicago thug politics - Obama's tyrannical DOJ in action.

POSTED BY: AURAPTOR
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 16:27
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Monday, February 27, 2012 2:00 PM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

No apology given , as I didn't lie.

You have very liquid definitions of what is and isn't a lie, don't you? Making an untrue claim, then defending it AND resorting to insults and name-calling in defense of it, seems like a pretty clear-cut case of lying, to me.

You cut yourself a whole lot more slack on such matters than you'd ever cut any "liberal", that's for sure!

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, February 27, 2012 2:23 PM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

No apology given , as I didn't lie.

You have very liquid definitions of what is and isn't a lie, don't you? Making an untrue claim, then defending it AND resorting to insults and name-calling in defense of it, seems like a pretty clear-cut case of lying, to me.

You cut yourself a whole lot more slack on such matters than you'd ever cut any "liberal", that's for sure!

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

I don't think he even believes himself capable of lying. Anything he says is absolute truth by virtue of having come from him. If, by chance, he is shown to be fatcually wrong, well then the facts are wrong.

If that doesn't work.... well, then, he forgot he made the false claim, so it... uh.... never happened.

And if THAT fails - just bitch out and pretent not to see the posts and/or thread which proved him wrong.

It's quite the air-tight dome of cognitive dissonance he's created for himself.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, February 27, 2012 4:00 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

All around the mulberry bush the monkey chased the weasel ... Which ones of you are the monkies and which are the weasels? I really can't tell honestly because you're all rediculous going round and round in squircles. POP go the all of you.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, February 27, 2012 6:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Riona you should read Storymark's last post.

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Monday, February 27, 2012 6:55 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

Okay I read his last post again Signe. I'm not saying Raptor can do no wrong or that he is blameless, but Quicko and Story squircle right along with, sometimes they start it, sometimes he starts it, it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things though, who starts it and who adds to it, it takes two to tango, I guess in this case it takes three to tango, hey, remember that commercial where the three people are trying to tango, I think it was a geico advert ... But that's not the point.

I maintain that the lot of you are rediculous. However you have every right to be rediculous and so you have every right to keep on being rediculous, its your choice, even though I think its stupid.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, February 27, 2012 7:07 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I used to get into it wth little Rappy b/c I was concerned people would think what he was saying was true. Most posters know by now - I hope - that little Rappy is a habitual liar even about such easy to check things as whether or not he called someone a name. But sometimes it helps to set the record straight, again.

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Monday, February 27, 2012 7:23 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
I used to get into it wth little Rappy b/c I was concerned people would think what he was saying was true.

It is.

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Most posters know by now - I hope - that little Rappy is a habitual liar

I'm not.

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...even about such easy to check things as whether or not he called someone a name. But sometimes it helps to set the record straight, again.

Which is exactly what I do. You? Not so much.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, February 27, 2012 9:07 PM

FREMDFIRMA

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Monday, February 27, 2012 10:10 PM

OONJERAH

Permission to Be WRONG, without condemnation, is an awesome, huge freedom.
I couldn't get along without it.

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Monday, February 27, 2012 10:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Now, normally I wouldn't bother, but ... once is mistaken, four times is - what?

But apologize for the actions of the administration all day long. I'd expect nothing less from you.

duck Not going to discuss the issue, I see.

duck You offering up imaginary excuses is playing the apologist

duck I clearly showed where you were an apologist for the administration

goose I never SAID he " apologized ", you brainless twit.

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:17 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

The the bigger, more important issue of the DOJ wrongly raiding Gibson guitars...

"Might have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Unlike Kwickie, I admit my mistakes. Revel in my honesty all day long. Makes no difference to me. I don't go back and change my posts, like he does, and then claim I never said what I clearly have been shown to have said.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:26 AM

STORYMARK

Wow. He's so delusional, it's epic.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:16 AM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Unlike Kwickie, I admit my mistakes. Revel in my honesty all day long. Makes no difference to me. I don't go back and change my posts, like he does, and then claim I never said what I clearly have been shown to have said.

Thing is, that's EXACTLY what you did. You just described your own behavior to a tee!

And it's funny as hell, because your whole bullshit line about "I admit my mistakes" is a farce, too. You made a claim, I called you on it, you stuck to your claim, THEN claimed you'd never made such a claim, and then others called you on it, and I quoted it back to you word for word, and even offered screenshots as proof of your claim.

Then, AND ONLY THEN, did you halfway admit anything, and even then, you tried to pass it off as if you'd done nothing wrong. You fucked up, you said things which are patently false, you got caught, and you still refuse to apologize for it. Tell us all again how big a man you are.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:44 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

I admitted I was wrong, you never did.

Say what ever the hell you want, I don't care.

We both know the truth.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:47 AM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I admitted I was wrong...

Where??

And Kwick never said he was wrong... because he wasn't.

Granted, no one expects you to aknowledge this, but everyone else can read just fine.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:48 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Geez, it would be nice if people didn't disolve discussions into one-on-one or two-on-one bickering with the Alt.Univ. The CONSTANT bullshit of "You said", "No, I didn't", "Here, let me prove it" and on and on SURE gets boring as hell! Anyone wanting to discuss the REAL issue of a thread gets drowned out and goes away in disgust.

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:50 AM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Geez, it would be nice if people didn't disolve discussions into one-on-one or two-on-one bickering with the Alt.Univ. The CONSTANT bullshit of "You said", "No, I didn't", "Here, let me prove it" and on and on SURE gets boring as hell! Anyone wanting to discuss the REAL issue of a thread gets drowned out and goes away in disgust.

You've spent your share of time in such go-arounds as well.

Hell, it's mostly why I come here, I love teasing the monkey.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:54 AM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by Storymark:
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Originally posted by Niki2:
Geez, it would be nice if people didn't disolve discussions into one-on-one or two-on-one bickering with the Alt.Univ. The CONSTANT bullshit of "You said", "No, I didn't", "Here, let me prove it" and on and on SURE gets boring as hell! Anyone wanting to discuss the REAL issue of a thread gets drowned out and goes away in disgust.

You've spent your share of time in such go-arounds as well.

Hell, it's mostly why I come here, I love teasing the monkey.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

Not to mention that Niki posted one thing here, and then said that's as far as she'd go in looking into it, and left.

So what was it you wanted to discuss further, Niki?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:02 AM

STORYMARK

Yeah, but she did mention the "regime's war on guitars" in another thread - which I must give points for. Had me laughing for a while.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:03 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by Storymark:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I admitted I was wrong...

Where??

Here -> " And actually, I was only 1/2 wrong, as I really DID say ' apologist '. So basically, much ado about nothing. But enjoy your half 'win'. Probably the only one you'll ever get.

Cherish it, dearly."

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And Kwick never said he was wrong... because he wasn't.

Granted, no one expects you to aknowledge this, but everyone else can read just fine.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

Kwickie lied, and then tried to hide that fact. I call that being wrong.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:22 AM

STORYMARK

Riiiight.

You saying something, then denying you said it, that's NOT a lie.

But if Kwick does it.... different story. Even though he never did what you claim. HE'S the liar.... suuuuure.

Gotcha.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:56 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Story, I don't go around and around again any more. I used to, until I caught on. Now you'll see I might debate an issue with a couple of posts, then when it gets to be a Round Robin with AU, I'm gone (or remind people how futile it is).

Mike, the issue that began this thread was, in my opinion, pretty much over with. My reference was to discussing other things, like in other threads, rather than going on and on in a thread AU had jacked into discussing him, what he said or his actions.

I know you two are always up for doing so, I just wish you didn't enjoy it so much because both of you have good brains and it would be much more enjoyable to have real discussions with you, and because it ends up with so many threads just becoming a round robin with AU. Hey, I'm allowed to wish.

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:28 PM

OONJERAH

Niki: "so many threads just becoming a round robin with AU"

I am either part of the solution, or I'm part of the problem.
Or how about Duplicate posts every day not allowed?
Maybe a cease fire for Just One Day?

Personal responsibility is the Truth.
Self determination triumphs over reaction.

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:22 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

Hi Oonj, there are times around here when things are less round and round, it sort of comes in waves.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:27 PM

OONJERAH

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
Hi Oonj, there are times around here when things are less round and round, it sort of comes in waves.

If it comes in waves, Riona, then these guys are on a Moon cycle. Lunatics!

Personal responsibility is the Truth.
Self determination triumphs over reaction.

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