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Originally posted by Storymark:
Wow, a beaurocratic screw up. Stop the presses!

It's not right, and now that it's hit the press, it will stop. No big deal.

Bet you'll try to blame this on Obama, too. Plenty of wingnuts already are.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
She's an idiot. She should have to pay back the money from the point she received her winnings.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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AUBURN, M.I. (FOX 25 / MyFoxBoston.com) - A Michigan man's fantasy became a reality when he hit a big lottery pay day, but the new millionaire isn't giving up his welfare check.

Leroy Fick was on public assistance when he took home a two-million dollar prize last June.

Food stamps are a federal program and are based on a person's gross income.

Lottery winnings are considered liquid assets and don't count as income and Leroy says he doesn't feel bad about being rich and staying on welfare.
Fick says his pay day isn't all that great, saying the IRS took more than half of his winnings.

Still, many who need public assistance say he is mocking them and the system.


Read more: http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/national/michigan-lottery-winner-s
till-on-welfare-20110518#ixzz1oSw6d5zU

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Wow, a beaurocratic screw up. Stop the presses!

It's not right, and now that it's hit the press, it will stop. No big deal.

Bet you'll try to blame this on Obama, too. Plenty of wingnuts already are.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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So, no real comment on the woman , who nets 1/2 a million dollars, feeling she's still OWED that money ?


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
She's an idiot. She should have to pay back the money from the point she received her winnings.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Agreed. And there was another story, of a some guy doing the same thing. Again, in Michigan.

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AUBURN, M.I. (FOX 25 / MyFoxBoston.com) - A Michigan man's fantasy became a reality when he hit a big lottery pay day, but the new millionaire isn't giving up his welfare check.

Leroy Fick was on public assistance when he took home a two-million dollar prize last June.

Food stamps are a federal program and are based on a person's gross income.

Lottery winnings are considered liquid assets and don't count as income and Leroy says he doesn't feel bad about being rich and staying on welfare.
Fick says his pay day isn't all that great, saying the IRS took more than half of his winnings.

Still, many who need public assistance say he is mocking them and the system.


Read more: http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/national/michigan-lottery-winner-s
till-on-welfare-20110518#ixzz1oSw6d5zU

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Lottery winnings are considered liquid assets and don't count as income...

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Lottery winnings are considered liquid assets and don't count as income...

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I think on Wall Street they call such liquid assets "capital gains", and they don't even get taxed as income!

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Mich.: $1M lotto winner cut from food assistance

Thursday - 3/8/2012, 8:33am ET

LINCOLN PARK, Mich. (AP) - State officials say a Detroit-area woman who won a $1 million lottery prize but continued to get food stamps has been removed from the food assistance program.

The Michigan Department of Human Services said Wednesday the lottery winner no longer was getting benefits. It followed a report this week from WDIV-TV in which 24-year-old Amanda Clayton of Lincoln Park acknowledged continuing to get $200 in monthly food aid after her September win.

Her mother, Euline Clayton, tells The Detroit News her daughter didn't break any laws.

Legislation in Lansing would require lottery and other gambling winnings to factor into eligibility for government food assistance programs. The legislation comes after a Bay County man last spring said he continued using food stamps despite winning a $2 million lottery prize in 2010.

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
It is the mentality of the poor. They see money, even large sums of it, as something that they will not have for very long. That is because they live dollar to dollar. They do not know how to handle large amounts of money, nor do they have anyone to teach them.

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
It is the mentality of the poor. They see money, even large sums of it, as something that they will not have for very long. That is because they live dollar to dollar. They do not know how to handle large amounts of money, nor do they have anyone to teach them.

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I don't know this girls social status. She doesn't come off as a debutante. But I think it's more human nature, to grab that which is offered you, and think about whether you NEED it later on, after you've already secured it. She's only 24. That's still a child, in some regards. ( well, according to Obama, 26 is still a child ) But she seems to have no grasp of what she has, what she wants, or how to deal with it all. I hope she gets her self set on a better path, but to be honest, she'll likely burn through this money in a year or 2.

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I was speaking more about poor people in general. There is a mark difference between how a person that has been poor all their lives thinks as compared to someone that has grown up rich, or at least well off.

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
It is the mentality of the poor. They see money, even large sums of it, as something that they will not have for very long. That is because they live dollar to dollar. They do not know how to handle large amounts of money, nor do they have anyone to teach them.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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I don't know this girls social status. She doesn't come off as a debutante. But I think it's more human nature, to grab that which is offered you, and think about whether you NEED it later on, after you've already secured it. She's only 24. That's still a child, in some regards. ( well, according to Obama, 26 is still a child ) But she seems to have no grasp of what she has, what she wants, or how to deal with it all. I hope she gets her self set on a better path, but to be honest, she'll likely burn through this money in a year or 2.

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I was speaking more about poor people in general. There is a mark difference between how a person that has been poor all their lives thinks as compared to someone that has grown up rich, or at least well off.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
And I was speaking more about the general concept of 'free' give aways. Like when you go to the mall, and there's a stand there with free samples. Doesn't matter what the product, but folks will almost always take some of what's being offered. Go back the next day, they may take some more. The next day, they say , sure, why not ? And take some more. However, the next day, when the stand is no longer there, folks are wondering...hey! Where's mys stuff! It's easy to get 'hooked' on hand outs.

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