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Republicans sick of Trayvon Martin coverage
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 9:18 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:While the story behind Trayvon Martin's shooting death continues to grab headlines, interest in the case is sharply divided along partisan and racial lines, according to a new study by Pew Research Center. Far more Republicans (56%) than Democrats (25%) say there has been too much coverage of Martin's death, according to Pew, which surveyed a "nationally representative sample of 1,000 adults" last Thursday through Sunday about top new stories. http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/04/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 9:32 AM
STORYMARK
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 9:41 AM
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Wednesday, April 4, 2012 11:05 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 11:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: What is going to happen when Z gets cleared (if)? Retractions by them that sought to crucify him?
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 11:55 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 11:59 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote: Oprah's launching a new cable network called TMD. The 24-hour Trayvon Martin Death channel will be hosted by visiting celebs including Malik Shabazz, Jeremiah Wright, Todd Bridges, Stymie, and others. Al Sharpton will be interviewing Dred Scott on whether it is legal to drink iced tea out of a can.
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 12:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Yeah, we're sick of the lies,
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 12:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Yeah, we're sick of the lies, Such as?
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 1:00 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Oprah's launching a new cable network called TMD. The 24-hour Trayvon Martin Death channel will be hosted by visiting celebs including Malik Shabazz, Jeremiah Wright, Todd Bridges, Stymie, and others. Al Sharpton will be interviewing Dred Scott on whether it is legal to drink iced tea out of a can.
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 1:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Yeah, we're sick of the lies, Such as? Zimmerman is white. He isn't. Trayvon was shot in the back of the head, execution style. He wasn't. Zimmerman suffered zero injuries. Trayvon, as pictured, isn't a 12 yr old, but was in fact 17 years old, stood 6 ft tall, and was hardly a 'skinny kid'. Which runs into another LIE told by the media. Zimmerman outweighed Martin by 100 ( I think Niki said 130 lbs ? ). False. There was 30-40 lbs difference. 50, tops. Far from the hulking brute , picking on the mild mannered, fresh faced kid as the media tried to portray. Want more ? Or does that draw you a clear enough picture? ( as if I really need to ask ) * Note to everyone* - Do not believe Anthony. He does not know what he thinks he knows on matters concerning of what I think or believe. " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall "The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 1:21 PM
WHOZIT
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 2:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Boy, for someone who hates it when others bring up "lies" and "lying", you don't seem to have a problem accusing "the Left" of exactly that. Let me guess: If FauxNews said Zimmerman was white, they "misspoke", right?
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 2:13 PM
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 2:39 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 2:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Only NBC altered the audio, as the Left often does...
Quote:Posted by Rappy: If FOX ( never heard of 'fauxNews', sorry ) News reported that Zimmerman was 'white', then it shows they're as bad as the rest of the media, and no where near as 'right-wing' as the Left would have us believe.
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 4:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Oprah's launching a new cable network called TMD. The 24-hour Trayvon Martin Death channel will be hosted by visiting celebs including Malik Shabazz, Jeremiah Wright, Todd Bridges, Stymie, and others. Al Sharpton will be interviewing Dred Scott on whether it is legal to drink iced tea out of a can. Gotta love stuff like this coming from those who claim race has nothing to do with it. Hell, Jongsie, why didn't you mention watermelon and fried chicken while you were running down your list of stereotypes?
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 4:28 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 4:30 PM
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 5:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Holy mother of god, was that crude.
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 5:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Personally, I'm satisfied that the VERY PUBLIC ATTENTION got the shooting looked at - one month after it happened and was ready to disappear into the dustbin of history. Without the coverage it wouldn't have been looked at at all.
Thursday, April 5, 2012 12:10 AM
Thursday, April 5, 2012 12:13 AM
Thursday, April 5, 2012 1:28 AM
M52NICKERSON
DALEK!
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: kwickie - the ACORN tapes weren't altered to distort what events actually took place. Neither were the Breitbart videos.
Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Prove msnbc called Zimmerman hispanic, from the very start, if you can, or just drop this nonsense of hypothetical 'what ifs' .
Thursday, April 5, 2012 3:13 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Yup, RL's off her meds again
Thursday, April 5, 2012 3:28 AM
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Thursday, April 5, 2012 6:55 AM
PHOENIXROSE
You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Yeah, we're sick of the lies, Such as? Zimmerman is white. He isn't. Trayvon was shot in the back of the head, execution style. He wasn't. Zimmerman suffered zero injuries. Trayvon, as pictured, isn't a 12 yr old, but was in fact 17 years old, stood 6 ft tall, and was hardly a 'skinny kid'. Which runs into another LIE told by the media. Zimmerman outweighed Martin by 100 ( I think Niki said 130 lbs ? ). False. There was 30-40 lbs difference. 50, tops. Far from the hulking brute , picking on the mild mannered, fresh faced kid as the media tried to portray.
Thursday, April 5, 2012 7:24 AM
Thursday, April 5, 2012 7:41 AM
Quote:In a fast-paced world of 24-hour cable news and nonstop social media, what happened that night has become both common knowledge and a blur of unattributed rumor accepted as fact. A controversial police report incited conspiracy theories and failed to definitively resolve what everyone wants to know: Who picked the fight? http://www.freep.com/article/C4/20120405/NEWS07/204050441/Night-of-Trayvon-Martin-s-killing-filled-with-conflicting-reports?odyssey=nav%7Chead Detroit Free Press...no doubt part of the vast liberal media conspiracy. I still can't find anywhere that says Trayvon was 12. Ah--on a website which has "conspiracy theorists" and "lunatic fringe" in it's header, a blogger who calls himself "Anonymous Coward" writes "The media has continued to show old photos of Trayvon from when he appears to be about 12 years old, instead of recent photos which show him in a much less flattering light." A comment on Redstate: "You have seen the picture of Trayvon when he was 11 or 12 years old, as has everyone else because the media won’t show us what he looked like at 17, which I think is very telling." Nowhere can I find anything that actually SAID he was 12. And subsequent photos are quite appropriate for a 17-year-old; I'm guessing those first shown were the first they could get their hands on. Oh, yeah, and I've seen widespread coverage of all the shit that was brought out about his personal life, which has nothing to do with that night, and Zimmerman's background, which definitely DOES relate to his wanting to be an authority figure, having an arrest for aggresssion against a cop, carrying a gun, etc. And yeah, googling turns up a bunch of blogs saying he was shot "execution style", but I never heard anything like that on any MSM or on their websites. I guess these are a useful attempt to point to a liberal media bias, but they're reaching awfully far! And yes, what you said is what I heard, at least at first, too. The simple fact that Zimmerman stalked him, after being told not to and responding "okay" to that advice, puts him in the wrong. So MANY things which are now shown to be facts don't look good for Zimmerman; his past aggressions, that neighborhood watch agencies have repeatedly stated that carrying a gun isn't acceptable practice; that Trayvon was doing nothing but walking home; the distance Zimmerman stalked him; the police actions and INactions, and on and on. It's enough to make anyone wonder WTF, but of course, wondering that is just a liberal thing, nobody on the right would EVER question police actions or believe facts that go against their own opinions... This pretty much sums it up for me:Quote:Nearly everyone expressed despair for Trayvon and disgust for shooter George Zimmerman. Here in Philadelphia, a diverse array of citizens filled LOVE Park three times to express outrage. Even Mayor Nutter weighed in, going so far as to call the killing an "assassination" on MSNBC. For the first time since 9/11, it seemed that the whole country shared the same sense of sadness and anger. Then reality set in. Over the past two weeks, our country has gone from a refreshing state of collective compassion to our sadly familiar pattern of racial and political tribalism. The truth is that we live in a nation that desperately wants to deny its most painful truths. We find no problem with 12 months of Casey Anthony media coverage but can't stand three weeks of Trayvon Martin coverage because the latter forces us to come to terms with white supremacy and police misconduct. We would rather criminalize a hoodie than deal with the fact that our system criminalizes black and brown people. We'd rather concoct fantastic stories of Trayvon as a lawless aggressor so that we don't have to explain why his confessed killer continues to walk the streets. More at http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/146196765.html] Ay-yup!
Quote:Nearly everyone expressed despair for Trayvon and disgust for shooter George Zimmerman. Here in Philadelphia, a diverse array of citizens filled LOVE Park three times to express outrage. Even Mayor Nutter weighed in, going so far as to call the killing an "assassination" on MSNBC. For the first time since 9/11, it seemed that the whole country shared the same sense of sadness and anger. Then reality set in. Over the past two weeks, our country has gone from a refreshing state of collective compassion to our sadly familiar pattern of racial and political tribalism. The truth is that we live in a nation that desperately wants to deny its most painful truths. We find no problem with 12 months of Casey Anthony media coverage but can't stand three weeks of Trayvon Martin coverage because the latter forces us to come to terms with white supremacy and police misconduct. We would rather criminalize a hoodie than deal with the fact that our system criminalizes black and brown people. We'd rather concoct fantastic stories of Trayvon as a lawless aggressor so that we don't have to explain why his confessed killer continues to walk the streets. More at http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/146196765.html] Ay-yup!
Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by PhoenixRose: 1. Never heard a single person say Zimmerman was white. And actually, very few of the reporters I've seen go out of their way to say that Trayvon was black. They show pictures of Trayvon and Zimmerman's mug shot semi-regularly, and leave it at that.
Quote: 2. Never heard anyone said Trayvon was shot execution style. Not even anything close to that.
Quote: 3. Closest thing I've heard to that is that there is a video of Zimmerman in the police station shortly after the shooting, and there is no evidence on that video that he is injured; no blood on his face or clothes from a broken nose, no visible bruises, etc. Quote: The 'video' was only a surveillance / security cam. GZ had already been treated by the paramedics. He didn't come climbing out of the squad car covered in blood. Quote: 4. Who ever said Trayvon was twelve? I haven't heard anyone say he was anything other than seventeen/a teenager. And unarmed, which seems to be the main thing. Many of the photos the MSM are showing are of when Trayvon was much younger. The more recent pic, of an older Trayvon , with his gold 'grill' , don't exactly paint the same picture of a more innocent, cherubic victim. Quote: 5. I dunno, Zimmerman looks fairly large, and I'm sure he did outweigh the young man. I haven't seen any reporter or commentator give a specific weight difference. With out double checking, I think GZ is about 5'9, and outweighed Trayvon by 40lbs or so. Trayvon was 6' or so. There were early reports that GZ was 100+ lbs heavier than TM. If Quote: Granted, I have not been obsessively following the story, but I've certainly seen several news shows talk about it. The facts given are generally: "Trayvon Martin was an unarmed teenager, he was shot and killed on the street, and the man who shot him has not even been arrested, let alone brought to trial. WTF?" Yes, 'WTF' is a legit question. But if the facts show that TM jumped GZ from behind, and was beating him, then how does that change the story ? Even so, I don't see that deadly force was necessary, but that's easy for us to say now, after the fact. At the time, we don't know exactly what was going on. The facts should be allowed to come out, and this 'rush to judgement' doesn't do anyone any favors. * Note to everyone* - Do not believe Anthony. He does not know what he thinks he knows on matters concerning of what I think or believe. " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall "The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Quote: The 'video' was only a surveillance / security cam. GZ had already been treated by the paramedics. He didn't come climbing out of the squad car covered in blood. Quote: 4. Who ever said Trayvon was twelve? I haven't heard anyone say he was anything other than seventeen/a teenager. And unarmed, which seems to be the main thing. Many of the photos the MSM are showing are of when Trayvon was much younger. The more recent pic, of an older Trayvon , with his gold 'grill' , don't exactly paint the same picture of a more innocent, cherubic victim. Quote: 5. I dunno, Zimmerman looks fairly large, and I'm sure he did outweigh the young man. I haven't seen any reporter or commentator give a specific weight difference. With out double checking, I think GZ is about 5'9, and outweighed Trayvon by 40lbs or so. Trayvon was 6' or so. There were early reports that GZ was 100+ lbs heavier than TM. If Quote: Granted, I have not been obsessively following the story, but I've certainly seen several news shows talk about it. The facts given are generally: "Trayvon Martin was an unarmed teenager, he was shot and killed on the street, and the man who shot him has not even been arrested, let alone brought to trial. WTF?" Yes, 'WTF' is a legit question. But if the facts show that TM jumped GZ from behind, and was beating him, then how does that change the story ? Even so, I don't see that deadly force was necessary, but that's easy for us to say now, after the fact. At the time, we don't know exactly what was going on. The facts should be allowed to come out, and this 'rush to judgement' doesn't do anyone any favors. * Note to everyone* - Do not believe Anthony. He does not know what he thinks he knows on matters concerning of what I think or believe. " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall "The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Quote: 4. Who ever said Trayvon was twelve? I haven't heard anyone say he was anything other than seventeen/a teenager. And unarmed, which seems to be the main thing.
Quote: 5. I dunno, Zimmerman looks fairly large, and I'm sure he did outweigh the young man. I haven't seen any reporter or commentator give a specific weight difference.
Quote: Granted, I have not been obsessively following the story, but I've certainly seen several news shows talk about it. The facts given are generally: "Trayvon Martin was an unarmed teenager, he was shot and killed on the street, and the man who shot him has not even been arrested, let alone brought to trial. WTF?"
Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:15 AM
Thursday, April 5, 2012 1:52 PM
Thursday, April 5, 2012 4:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Already posted what you're asking for, Storybook. Go look harder, if you can't find it. Idiot. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:M1_7eARjwL4J:exchangegoldforcash.com/money/u-s-government/president/2012-election/breitbart/local-fox-insider-martin-shot-in-back-of-head/+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Quote:This is Google's cache of http://exchangegoldforcash.com/money/u-s-government/president/2012-election/breitbart/local-fox-insider-martin-shot-in-back-of-head/. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Apr 1, 2012 05:13:21 GMT. The current page could have changed in the meantime.
Quote:According to sources in the Memphis, Tennessee area, local FOX 13 insider Joseph Kyles reported from Sanford, Florida that Martin was shot in the back of the head. As the anchor, Greg Coy, tweeted, “This could change invest[igation].”
Thursday, April 5, 2012 4:24 PM
Quote:Congresswoman Corine Browne , from Jacksonville, FL, said Trayvon was hunted down and killed like " a rabid dog ".
Thursday, April 5, 2012 6:42 PM
BIGDAMNNOBODY
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Yep, Ive looked for these things the Raptard claims happened, and can't find any actual instances. And, like all of his claims, he did not cite anything..... just more Rappy fantasies.
Thursday, April 5, 2012 8:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: The very first reports were saying he was white, and with the name 'Zimmerman' , and not Rodriguez.
Quote: The 'video' was only a surveillance / security cam. GZ had already been treated by the paramedics. He didn't come climbing out of the squad car covered in blood.
Quote:Many of the photos the MSM are showing are of when Trayvon was much younger. The more recent pic, of an older Trayvon , with his gold 'grill' , don't exactly paint the same picture of a more innocent, cherubic victim.
Quote:Even so, I don't see that deadly force was necessary, but that's easy for us to say now, after the fact. At the time, we don't know exactly what was going on. The facts should be allowed to come out, and this 'rush to judgement' doesn't do anyone any favors.
Quote:Originally posted by BigDamnNobody: ...in total agreement with someone who says they have not really been following this story except for watching a few shows.
Friday, April 6, 2012 3:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Congresswoman Corine Brown , from Jacksonville, FL, said Trayvon was hunted down and killed like " a rabid dog ". Do you have any evidence to back up that assertion?
Quote:Congresswoman Corine Brown , from Jacksonville, FL, said Trayvon was hunted down and killed like " a rabid dog ".
Friday, April 6, 2012 3:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: So this is coming from FOX, huh? I can see why you'd be skeptical, of course. I'm skeptical, too, but when it comes to FauxNews, I always am, given their history. You questioning the veracity of their stories might be a breakthrough, though.
Friday, April 6, 2012 4:30 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Ive heard none of those from the press, myself. From regular people people, yes. But not the media. But Im sure you can provide links.
Friday, April 6, 2012 7:03 AM
Quote: There was a brief moment of booing, when Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett addressed the crowd. But U.S. Representative Corrine Brown quickly quieted it when she told them how Triplett flew to Washington, DC, and met with congressmen for five hours about the case and helped get the 911 tapes released to the public, which generated a social media buzz that propelled the case nationally. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2119340/Trayvon-Martin-case-Newt-Gingrich-slams-Obamas-disgraceful-comments-shooting.html
Quote:Yes, 'WTF' is a legit question. But if the facts show that TM jumped GZ from behind, and was beating him, then how does that change the story ?
Quote: For the "white" Zimmerman and 100lb weight difference, you don't have to go far. Just the first post in this thread.
Friday, April 6, 2012 7:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Congresswoman Corine Brown , from Jacksonville, FL, said Trayvon was hunted down and killed like " a rabid dog ". Do you have any evidence to back up that assertion? It was Dem Rep. Frederica Wilson, not Brown. I had only heard the audio, and confused Brown with Wilson.
Quote: And Storybook - Not EVERY GOD DAMN piece of info needs to be cited and reposted here, when it's being played all over the news, or it's widesly accessible on for anyone to find. Hell, you'd demanding that I repost Darwins Origin of Species every single time I bring up the issue of Evolution, or repost the entire US Constitution, were I to discuss matters of govt. Get the hell over yourself already.
Friday, April 6, 2012 11:44 AM
Friday, April 6, 2012 12:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Yes. I was wrong. I am sorry I confused Corrine Brown with another idiot , race baiting Democrat representative from Florida. I'll try to do better next time.
Friday, April 6, 2012 4:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Geezer:Quote: For the "white" Zimmerman and 100lb weight difference, you don't have to go far. Just the first post in this thread.Say WHAA?? I looked at the first post; neither one is mentioned. I also checked the link I had put up; neither is mentioned there, either. Dunno what you mean by this.
Quote: Trayvon a 17 year old African American boy was shot in a gated community where his father lives in Florida. He was shot by a self-appointed White Community Watch Captain who was walking around with a gun. Zimmerman the community watch person decided Trayvon looked suspicious. All the boy had was candy and a drink. He was not bothering anyone. He was simply walking from the store to his father's house. So we have to ask ourselves what about the boy made him "look" suspicious? Zimmerman approached the boy after calling the police and the police telling him not to follow the boy. Disregarding the police Zimmerman approached the boy with a gun and the boy attempted to defend himself. Now Zimmerman who weighed about 100 pounds more than the boy and had a gun is claimng self defense. He shot and killed this innocent boy. The police have not arrested Zimmerman because they claim there is no evidence or witness to counter his claim of self defense. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-761553?hpt=hp_bn2
Friday, April 6, 2012 4:30 PM
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