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Thursday, April 19, 2012 5:28 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:In 2005, Zimmerman was arrested and charged with "resisting officer with violence" and "battery of law enforcement officer." Both these felonies are considered third-degree. Due to his desperate attempts, the charges were reduced to "resisting officer without violence" and then the only remaining charge was also completely waived off when he entered an alcohol education program.
Quote:does have both an official and an in-house record. He has a drug history, a violence history
Quote:he is clearly someone who is on the radar of local police
Quote:I have found some people with that history seem to radiate trouble...I suspect this is the bad vibe that first drew Zimmerman's attention and concerned him enough to contact the police.
Thursday, April 19, 2012 5:52 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by HERO: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Boy, I hope you know your facts better in court, as you just flat out lied. Martin's only record is suspension from school - no criminal record at all. Zimmerman DOES have an arrest record, having been charged in 2005 with resisting arrest and assault on an officer.... gee, kinda sounds like a history of violence, don't it? Once again, we see how "honest" the resident lawyer is. !" Zimmerman's record has been widely reported...but legally he has no record. A person with the same name and age was arrested, he was never convicted of a crime and the arrest was expunged. That means it never happened...legally. Police can not consider it and it would not show up on a background check. So, no record for Zimmerman. Martin, however, does have both an official and an in-house record. He has a drug history, a violence history, and is a suspected burglar. While he may not have been caught on something serious, yet, he is clearly someone who is on the radar of local police. I have found some people with that history seem to radiate trouble...I suspect this is the bad vibe that first drew Zimmerman's attention and concerned him enough to contact the police. H
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Boy, I hope you know your facts better in court, as you just flat out lied. Martin's only record is suspension from school - no criminal record at all. Zimmerman DOES have an arrest record, having been charged in 2005 with resisting arrest and assault on an officer.... gee, kinda sounds like a history of violence, don't it? Once again, we see how "honest" the resident lawyer is. !"
Thursday, April 19, 2012 11:21 AM
OONJERAH
Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:36 PM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by HERO: So, no record for Zimmerman. Martin, however, does have both an official and an in-house record. He has a drug history, a violence history, and is a suspected burglar. While he may not have been caught on something serious, yet
Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:45 PM
Friday, April 20, 2012 6:20 AM
Friday, April 20, 2012 8:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: (Actually, I find it strange that you ever DID respect Hero...I once respected Geezer, but I've since been proven wrong...but Hero? Was he different before I came? Because everything I've read from him has been pretty absurd...)
Friday, April 20, 2012 8:50 AM
Friday, April 20, 2012 5:37 PM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Excessive violence is what happens when order breaks down in a society.
Friday, April 20, 2012 6:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: YET??? He's DEAD, asshole.
Friday, April 20, 2012 8:11 PM
Friday, April 20, 2012 8:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by HERO: young guy on bad path.
Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:15 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: It's a hell of a thing, killing a youth. You take away all he'll ever become and all he'll ever create. Yes ... and all he'll ever love. . . . But then again ... he was a skittles eater.
Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:20 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:35 AM
Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:59 AM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Quote:He has a drug history, a violence history
Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:36 AM
Quote: is on radar as suspect in burglaries, has drug history, has history of violence or at least stupid posturing, but young guy on bad path
Quote:Is there any reason not to believe he is telling the truth?
Sunday, April 22, 2012 8:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Trayvon was bashing EZ's head into the ground. Pics show it.
Sunday, April 22, 2012 12:48 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Quote:Originally posted by HERO: I suspect this is the bad vibe that first drew Zimmerman's attention and concerned him enough to contact the police. H
Monday, April 23, 2012 8:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Trayvon was bashing EZ's head into the ground. Pics show it. Wait- there are actual PICTURES of the struggle??? WHERE!?!?!?! Link us, dude! Chrisisall, wearing a frilly Mal thing on his head, and ready to shoot unarmed, full-body armoured Operatives
Monday, April 23, 2012 10:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: Are 'bad vibes' the kind of justification you would use in self defence in court?
Monday, April 23, 2012 10:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: KIRK: They must apply to everyone or they mean nothing!
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 3:15 AM
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 3:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: I don't buy that Martin was giving off bad 'vibes' while he was on the phone to his girlfriend, and innocently walking home.
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 4:06 AM
Quote:No, it was the 'eating Skittles like gangbangers eat them' thing.
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 7:09 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 10:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: But the other "vibe" thing is to me further example of the fact that Hero either isn't an attorney or is a bad one. Tho' come to think of it, his mentality might fit perfectly well with a lawyer, just not a very good one. The "vibe" thing is totally ridiculous and has no place in the law, especially as Zimmerman couldn't have known anything about Martin whatsoever when he spotted him.
Quote: Yes, I'm still waiting for that "history of violence" thing, too, plus I'd like to know how he can consider Zimmerman to have "no" past record of violence, as well as proof Martin was on someone's "radar".
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: I've noticed sometimes people get a bad feeling about other people. I can't tell you how many times I've seen police zero in on someone only to find that person has a felony warrant, illegal drugs in their possession, or is drunk. Having delt with bad folks I find myself walking in a store or sitting in a resturant...suddenly I see someone who just feels wrong. All it does is draw your attention. Self defense is about what the other person does...the mere fact that because of their behaivor, stance, whatever it is suddenly they've got my attention, that only makes it less likely I'll be taken by surprise. (I note for the records that velociraptos hunted by drawing ones attention so that others could strike from another direction...at least they did in the movie). H
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:23 PM
Quote:Mr. Martin also claimed to have assaulted a bus driver on his own Twitter account.
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:39 PM
Quote:I don't buy Zimmerman could hav injured himself
Quote:(state investigator) Gilbreath said Zimmerman's claim that Martin was slamming his head against the sidewalk just before he shot the teenager was "not consistent with the evidence we found." He gave no details.
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 3:54 PM
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:38 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:11 AM
Quote:Wow, that is a shitty justification. Would not stand up in court here. I'm getting that lawyers standards are quite poor in the US. In the end, bad vibe can be about prejudice, as possible in this case. You get the bad vibe because your expectations are that a young, black male wearing a hoodie must be up to no good. This is one of the things that black people complain about. They get pulled up by the cops more often, because their bad vibe is actually their skin colour. Wrong on so many counts.
Quote:C.J.: Let me explain something to you, this is sort of my field. The people on these sites? They're the cast of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." Well, now I'm telling you to open the ward room window and climb on out before they give you a pre-frontal lobotomy, and I have to smother you with a pillow. I'm assigning an intern from the press office to that web site. They're going to check it every night before they go home. If they discover you've been there, I'm going to shove a motherboard so far up your ass...
Quote: Josh looks down at the floor. C.J. What? JOSH [with a slight shrug] Well... technically, I outrank you. C.J. [shouting] So far up your ass! JOSH [quickly] Okay.
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:29 AM
Quote:It was evident in how he talked, wrote, dressed, acted, his manner, his attitude.
Quote: he was found to be in possession of twelve pieces of women' jewelry such as engagement rings, earings (sic), etc...all real and stolen
Quote: Martin was never charged or disciplined regarding the jewelry. Miami-Dade Police confirmed that it had been asked by school police to help identify the property taken from Martin’s backpack, however, the jewelry did not match any that had been reported stolen. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/29/why-hasnt-george-zimmerman-been-arrested/ to Quote: Police have indicated that Mr. Martin was a suspect in several local burglaries.Again you would have to show reliable cites: Googling "Trayvon Martin suspect in burglaries", there is absolutely NOTHING. The only thing I found was a story repeated on several websites about the Sanford Police Chief suspecting Martin of having stolen the skittles and iced tea, followed byQuote:Based on this alone as a former LEO it makes Martin a plausible suspect as far as burglary or crime of opportunity is concerned. I know that Zimmman’s defense team will gather all this information as well as part of their strategy to defense {sic} him. That combined with the taped report of Zimmman describing Martin’s activities, combined with the fact that there is no proof that Martin ever entered the 711 to buy candy, and that he had none on his body when police arrive completely change the story in Zimmerman’s favor. http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2012/04/martin-was-waking-around-looking-in-other-homes-according-to-zimmermans-testimony/ You know what's hysterical about this? It appears all over crazy websites as if it were fact, but it's actually a SATIRE:Quote:Free Wood Post: News That’s Almost Reliable published a satire piece, FOX NEWS: “Did Trayvon Steal the Candy and Tea?”. Like The Onion, Free Wood often takes current events and exaggerates a theme to explicitly mock it. Here, the mockery is directed at the people waging the smear campaigns against Trayvon Martin. Unfortunately, racist and right-wing organizations including Stormfront have picked up Free Wood’s piece and treated it as fact. This piece is SATIRE.Quote:Fox News anchors and hosts are beginning to ask fair and balanced questions about the Trayvon Martin tragedy, and today the nation’s most popular news source is reporting, “no receipt was found by investigators for the candy or the tea Martin was menacing at George Zimmerman when the neighborhood watchman was forced to defend himself.” The revelation came this morning on Fox and Friends during an interview with Bill “Bull” Lee, who has temporarily stepped-down as Sanford Chief of Police in order to act as Zimmerman’s official spokesman. Lee told the cast of the popular morning show, “After we stripped the dead suspect and tested him for drug and alcohol use and then dug under his finger and toe nails for any incriminating DNA, we checked his blood-soaked clothes for any kind of evidence of wrong doing. All we found was 34 cents and a couple of baseball cards.” “That’s it?” Gretchen Carlson asked dismayed. “Seems to me that something was obviously missing: why wasn’t there a receipt for the pop [sic] and candy?” “We at the Sanford Police Department asked the exact same question, Gretchen,” Lee explained. “We concluded that the suspect must have stolen the candy and tea, and in my mind that bolstered Mr. Zimmerman’s self-defense claim. A criminal brandishing his stolen goods can be quite threatening when you’re following him in your SUV with a nine-millimeter, semi-auto handgun loaded with a full clip of hollow-point ammo.” Carlson, in her classic journalistic style, stayed on the scent: “So were the baseball cards found on Martin of any value?” she asked. “Do we know if the family has produced a receipt for those?” “To this point,” Lee answered, “the Martin family has refused to cooperate on that matter. However, I do know that Mr. Zimmerman believes that baseball cards were once stolen from him.” This new line of investigation has echoed throughout the Fox News line-up. Bill O’Reilly stated, “Candy and tea and baseball cards, but no receipts? Liberals can’t explain that. New twists to this case are bound to continue to turn-up as Fox News investigates the real reality of what happened in Sanford.” http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/29/why-hasnt-george-zimmerman-been-arrested/ are a lot of other things out there that you no doubt took for facts, but which are not. Some can be found at the same site, including:Quote: On March 25, Michelle Malkin’s right-wing website Twitchy ran a picture of George Zimmerman in a suit and tie next to what they claimed was a picture of Trayvon Martin. The picture of Zimmerman was real, but the picture of Martin was not. Quote:Recognize these two people? If you don’t, we’ll help you out. The man on the left is George Zimmerman, the man accused of murdering the boy on the right, Trayvon Martin. The mainstream media won’t show you these two photos because they convey a message that no one else wants to take into consideration. Correction, 8:56 pm ET March 25, 2012: We made a mistake. The photo on the right is not of the Trayvon Martin who was shot by Zimmerman. We apologize to our readers and to the Martin familyThe photo on the right above is of a black youngster also named Trayvon Martin, taken from the teenager's Facebook page, but this Trayvon Martin is still breathing, and he's a student at Myers Middle School in New York. The dead Trayvon Martin's home was Miami, where he attended Miami Carol City High School. Other photos from the living New York teenager’s page have been spread across the Internet as “proof” that somehow the dead Trayvon Martin was a thug, and that the photos in some way justify the murder. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/29/why-hasnt-george-zimmerman-been-arrested/] There's your "gold teeth", "Hero"--you should check the FACTS before making assumptions. Next time you hear mention of "gold teeth" and "looked like a thug", remember this, and if you have any brains, check out any OTHER photos showing Trayvon looking like a "thug". In other words, there is nothing to back up your assumptions, which would be laughed out of court, simple as that, and no REAL attorney would even make them. The following is what has been widely circulated on the internet: Quote:Whether or not these images were shared out of ignorance, the results have been horrifying, but also revealing about a few ugly truths about race and public discourse in an Internet Age. This picture was picked up and used on a number of smaller conservative blogs (which eventually removed the pictures and admitted their mistake), on a few white supremacist forums, and all over Facebook. The popular version of this image (shown above) came from a Facebook user named John David Lee Brown. His image had been shared over 300 times when I first saw it. Less than 24 hours later, it had been shared nearly 700 times. If I’m lucky, my post will get 1/20th as many shares as these racist, fake Trayvon pictures on Facebook. If Facebook users have on average 100 friends, that means around 70,000 people were exposed to an image which deceptively claimed that the “hysterical Race Baiter” media has hidden the real Trayvon Martin from us and also implied that perhaps Zimmerman was justified in killing the boy, since he really was a thug! 70k people. And the worst part about it? Even if Mr. Brown removes the picture and admits his mistake, the vast majority of the people who saw and shared it will never know. Some people were sick of all the media talk about racism. They suspected that Zimmerman was probably innocent. They saw an image of Trayvon on Facebook which “exposed” him as a pants-sagging, rebellious, probably violent black thug. The image confirmed their suspicions, so they clicked “Share” and the misinformation moved on to spread further racist stereotypes. http://www.christandpopculture.com/asides/citizenship-confusion-the-trayvon-martin-gangsta-picture-that-the-media-doesnt-want-you-to-see/]
Quote: Police have indicated that Mr. Martin was a suspect in several local burglaries.
Quote:Based on this alone as a former LEO it makes Martin a plausible suspect as far as burglary or crime of opportunity is concerned. I know that Zimmman’s defense team will gather all this information as well as part of their strategy to defense {sic} him. That combined with the taped report of Zimmman describing Martin’s activities, combined with the fact that there is no proof that Martin ever entered the 711 to buy candy, and that he had none on his body when police arrive completely change the story in Zimmerman’s favor. http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2012/04/martin-was-waking-around-looking-in-other-homes-according-to-zimmermans-testimony/
Quote:Free Wood Post: News That’s Almost Reliable published a satire piece, FOX NEWS: “Did Trayvon Steal the Candy and Tea?”. Like The Onion, Free Wood often takes current events and exaggerates a theme to explicitly mock it. Here, the mockery is directed at the people waging the smear campaigns against Trayvon Martin. Unfortunately, racist and right-wing organizations including Stormfront have picked up Free Wood’s piece and treated it as fact. This piece is SATIRE.Quote:Fox News anchors and hosts are beginning to ask fair and balanced questions about the Trayvon Martin tragedy, and today the nation’s most popular news source is reporting, “no receipt was found by investigators for the candy or the tea Martin was menacing at George Zimmerman when the neighborhood watchman was forced to defend himself.” The revelation came this morning on Fox and Friends during an interview with Bill “Bull” Lee, who has temporarily stepped-down as Sanford Chief of Police in order to act as Zimmerman’s official spokesman. Lee told the cast of the popular morning show, “After we stripped the dead suspect and tested him for drug and alcohol use and then dug under his finger and toe nails for any incriminating DNA, we checked his blood-soaked clothes for any kind of evidence of wrong doing. All we found was 34 cents and a couple of baseball cards.” “That’s it?” Gretchen Carlson asked dismayed. “Seems to me that something was obviously missing: why wasn’t there a receipt for the pop [sic] and candy?” “We at the Sanford Police Department asked the exact same question, Gretchen,” Lee explained. “We concluded that the suspect must have stolen the candy and tea, and in my mind that bolstered Mr. Zimmerman’s self-defense claim. A criminal brandishing his stolen goods can be quite threatening when you’re following him in your SUV with a nine-millimeter, semi-auto handgun loaded with a full clip of hollow-point ammo.” Carlson, in her classic journalistic style, stayed on the scent: “So were the baseball cards found on Martin of any value?” she asked. “Do we know if the family has produced a receipt for those?” “To this point,” Lee answered, “the Martin family has refused to cooperate on that matter. However, I do know that Mr. Zimmerman believes that baseball cards were once stolen from him.” This new line of investigation has echoed throughout the Fox News line-up. Bill O’Reilly stated, “Candy and tea and baseball cards, but no receipts? Liberals can’t explain that. New twists to this case are bound to continue to turn-up as Fox News investigates the real reality of what happened in Sanford.” http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/29/why-hasnt-george-zimmerman-been-arrested/ are a lot of other things out there that you no doubt took for facts, but which are not. Some can be found at the same site, including:Quote: On March 25, Michelle Malkin’s right-wing website Twitchy ran a picture of George Zimmerman in a suit and tie next to what they claimed was a picture of Trayvon Martin. The picture of Zimmerman was real, but the picture of Martin was not. Quote:Recognize these two people? If you don’t, we’ll help you out. The man on the left is George Zimmerman, the man accused of murdering the boy on the right, Trayvon Martin. The mainstream media won’t show you these two photos because they convey a message that no one else wants to take into consideration. Correction, 8:56 pm ET March 25, 2012: We made a mistake. The photo on the right is not of the Trayvon Martin who was shot by Zimmerman. We apologize to our readers and to the Martin familyThe photo on the right above is of a black youngster also named Trayvon Martin, taken from the teenager's Facebook page, but this Trayvon Martin is still breathing, and he's a student at Myers Middle School in New York. The dead Trayvon Martin's home was Miami, where he attended Miami Carol City High School. Other photos from the living New York teenager’s page have been spread across the Internet as “proof” that somehow the dead Trayvon Martin was a thug, and that the photos in some way justify the murder. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/29/why-hasnt-george-zimmerman-been-arrested/] There's your "gold teeth", "Hero"--you should check the FACTS before making assumptions. Next time you hear mention of "gold teeth" and "looked like a thug", remember this, and if you have any brains, check out any OTHER photos showing Trayvon looking like a "thug". In other words, there is nothing to back up your assumptions, which would be laughed out of court, simple as that, and no REAL attorney would even make them. The following is what has been widely circulated on the internet: Quote:Whether or not these images were shared out of ignorance, the results have been horrifying, but also revealing about a few ugly truths about race and public discourse in an Internet Age. This picture was picked up and used on a number of smaller conservative blogs (which eventually removed the pictures and admitted their mistake), on a few white supremacist forums, and all over Facebook. The popular version of this image (shown above) came from a Facebook user named John David Lee Brown. His image had been shared over 300 times when I first saw it. Less than 24 hours later, it had been shared nearly 700 times. If I’m lucky, my post will get 1/20th as many shares as these racist, fake Trayvon pictures on Facebook. If Facebook users have on average 100 friends, that means around 70,000 people were exposed to an image which deceptively claimed that the “hysterical Race Baiter” media has hidden the real Trayvon Martin from us and also implied that perhaps Zimmerman was justified in killing the boy, since he really was a thug! 70k people. And the worst part about it? Even if Mr. Brown removes the picture and admits his mistake, the vast majority of the people who saw and shared it will never know. Some people were sick of all the media talk about racism. They suspected that Zimmerman was probably innocent. They saw an image of Trayvon on Facebook which “exposed” him as a pants-sagging, rebellious, probably violent black thug. The image confirmed their suspicions, so they clicked “Share” and the misinformation moved on to spread further racist stereotypes. http://www.christandpopculture.com/asides/citizenship-confusion-the-trayvon-martin-gangsta-picture-that-the-media-doesnt-want-you-to-see/]
Quote:Fox News anchors and hosts are beginning to ask fair and balanced questions about the Trayvon Martin tragedy, and today the nation’s most popular news source is reporting, “no receipt was found by investigators for the candy or the tea Martin was menacing at George Zimmerman when the neighborhood watchman was forced to defend himself.” The revelation came this morning on Fox and Friends during an interview with Bill “Bull” Lee, who has temporarily stepped-down as Sanford Chief of Police in order to act as Zimmerman’s official spokesman. Lee told the cast of the popular morning show, “After we stripped the dead suspect and tested him for drug and alcohol use and then dug under his finger and toe nails for any incriminating DNA, we checked his blood-soaked clothes for any kind of evidence of wrong doing. All we found was 34 cents and a couple of baseball cards.” “That’s it?” Gretchen Carlson asked dismayed. “Seems to me that something was obviously missing: why wasn’t there a receipt for the pop [sic] and candy?” “We at the Sanford Police Department asked the exact same question, Gretchen,” Lee explained. “We concluded that the suspect must have stolen the candy and tea, and in my mind that bolstered Mr. Zimmerman’s self-defense claim. A criminal brandishing his stolen goods can be quite threatening when you’re following him in your SUV with a nine-millimeter, semi-auto handgun loaded with a full clip of hollow-point ammo.” Carlson, in her classic journalistic style, stayed on the scent: “So were the baseball cards found on Martin of any value?” she asked. “Do we know if the family has produced a receipt for those?” “To this point,” Lee answered, “the Martin family has refused to cooperate on that matter. However, I do know that Mr. Zimmerman believes that baseball cards were once stolen from him.” This new line of investigation has echoed throughout the Fox News line-up. Bill O’Reilly stated, “Candy and tea and baseball cards, but no receipts? Liberals can’t explain that. New twists to this case are bound to continue to turn-up as Fox News investigates the real reality of what happened in Sanford.”
Quote: On March 25, Michelle Malkin’s right-wing website Twitchy ran a picture of George Zimmerman in a suit and tie next to what they claimed was a picture of Trayvon Martin. The picture of Zimmerman was real, but the picture of Martin was not. Quote:Recognize these two people? If you don’t, we’ll help you out. The man on the left is George Zimmerman, the man accused of murdering the boy on the right, Trayvon Martin. The mainstream media won’t show you these two photos because they convey a message that no one else wants to take into consideration. Correction, 8:56 pm ET March 25, 2012: We made a mistake. The photo on the right is not of the Trayvon Martin who was shot by Zimmerman. We apologize to our readers and to the Martin familyThe photo on the right above is of a black youngster also named Trayvon Martin, taken from the teenager's Facebook page, but this Trayvon Martin is still breathing, and he's a student at Myers Middle School in New York. The dead Trayvon Martin's home was Miami, where he attended Miami Carol City High School. Other photos from the living New York teenager’s page have been spread across the Internet as “proof” that somehow the dead Trayvon Martin was a thug, and that the photos in some way justify the murder. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/29/why-hasnt-george-zimmerman-been-arrested/]
Quote:Recognize these two people? If you don’t, we’ll help you out. The man on the left is George Zimmerman, the man accused of murdering the boy on the right, Trayvon Martin. The mainstream media won’t show you these two photos because they convey a message that no one else wants to take into consideration. Correction, 8:56 pm ET March 25, 2012: We made a mistake. The photo on the right is not of the Trayvon Martin who was shot by Zimmerman. We apologize to our readers and to the Martin family
Quote:Whether or not these images were shared out of ignorance, the results have been horrifying, but also revealing about a few ugly truths about race and public discourse in an Internet Age. This picture was picked up and used on a number of smaller conservative blogs (which eventually removed the pictures and admitted their mistake), on a few white supremacist forums, and all over Facebook. The popular version of this image (shown above) came from a Facebook user named John David Lee Brown. His image had been shared over 300 times when I first saw it. Less than 24 hours later, it had been shared nearly 700 times. If I’m lucky, my post will get 1/20th as many shares as these racist, fake Trayvon pictures on Facebook. If Facebook users have on average 100 friends, that means around 70,000 people were exposed to an image which deceptively claimed that the “hysterical Race Baiter” media has hidden the real Trayvon Martin from us and also implied that perhaps Zimmerman was justified in killing the boy, since he really was a thug! 70k people. And the worst part about it? Even if Mr. Brown removes the picture and admits his mistake, the vast majority of the people who saw and shared it will never know. Some people were sick of all the media talk about racism. They suspected that Zimmerman was probably innocent. They saw an image of Trayvon on Facebook which “exposed” him as a pants-sagging, rebellious, probably violent black thug. The image confirmed their suspicions, so they clicked “Share” and the misinformation moved on to spread further racist stereotypes. http://www.christandpopculture.com/asides/citizenship-confusion-the-trayvon-martin-gangsta-picture-that-the-media-doesnt-want-you-to-see/]
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 9:54 AM
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:20 AM
M52NICKERSON
DALEK!
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:42 AM
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Personally I don't believe a thing Hero says unless links to credible websites are provided.
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:30 PM
Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:26 AM
Quote: Why should I do all the work for you?
Thursday, April 26, 2012 4:15 AM
Quote:Trayvon’s family and friends have consistently stated that he was a peaceful person. Kindhearted, even-tempered and thoughtful are the adjectives the New York Times reported that the late teen’s loved ones used to describe him. Trayvon’s mother, Sybrina Fulton, told New York Times columnist Charles Blow that Trayvon hadn’t had a physical confrontation with anyone since his preschool years. Moreover, Trayvon’s older brother Jahvaris Fulton—the person Trayvon fought with as 4-year-old—described his departed sibling to CNN as nonviolent. Trayvon was by all accounts a caretaker. He spoon-fed his quadriplegic uncle, Ronald Fulton, when no nurse was on hand to do so. He also babysat his 3- and 7-year-old girl cousins, nicknamed the “bunnies.” He often baked cookies for them, his family told the Times. The night Trayvon was murdered, his father, Tracy Martin, was having dinner with fiancée Brandy Green. Trayvon was in Green’s home with her 14-year-old son, Chad. Before heading to the store, Trayvon asked the boy if he wanted anything. The answer? Skittles. His email was filled with messages about the late teen’s interest in college and aeronautics. “A screenshot of Trayvon’s Gmail inbox our source provided us is heartbreaking,” Gawker writer Adrian Chen wrote. “Martin apparently used his Gmail account for his college search, and it’s filled with emails about upcoming SAT tests and scholarship applications. (‘Trayvon, now is the best time to take the SATs!’) One email included the results of a career aptitude test, our source said. It ‘talked about his interest in aeronautics and stuff.’” Both Trayvon’s mother and brother have remarked that he’d taken honors classes. Like many teens, Trayvon had a series of hobbies and interests. He counted the edgy television show “South Park,” the music of Bob Marley and the athleticism of LeBron James among his favorites. He liked to play sports himself and typical teenage jaunts to the mall. He especially liked his mother’s everyman dish of hamburgers and French fries. Count brownies with lots of nuts as his guilty pleasure, his grandmother told the New York Times. He earned money by painting houses, washing cars and working Pee Wee football league games. Trayvon’s mother, Sybrina Fulton, is an employee for Miami-Dade County’s housing agency. His father, Tracy Martin, is a truck driver. Fulton and Martin are now divorced. His brother, Jahvaris Fulton, 21, is a student at Florida International University. The lives Trayvon’s family members have led give every indication that the teenager would likewise attend college and pursue a career. http://racerelations.about.com/od/thelegalsystem/a/The-Real-Trayvon-Martin-Facts-About-The-Slain-Youths-Life.htm the best I can find. Obviously at only 17, Martin hasn't GOT much history, but it was interesting that my search yielded so little. Even articles entitled things like "Biography: Trayvon Benjamin Martin (1995-2012) ( http://bazaardaily.com/tag/trayvon-martin-bio/) were almost exclusively made up of facts about the case, little about Martin himself.
Thursday, April 26, 2012 4:19 AM
PIZMOBEACH
... fully loaded, safety off...
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: Here's a favorable, detailed article about GZ. George Zimmerman: Prelude to a shooting => http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmermanbre83o18h-20120425,0,3144447.story
Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:01 AM
CAVETROLL
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Guy with a gun goes after someone. That someone winds up shot dead. That's all that I need to know. Everything else is ghafla, since the hunter provided the original action which put all the other pieces into motion.
Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by CaveTroll: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Guy with a gun goes after someone. That someone winds up shot dead. That's all that I need to know. Everything else is ghafla, since the hunter provided the original action which put all the other pieces into motion. Congratulations! Your "logic" just condemned every cop who has ever fired a shot at a suspect.
Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Personally I don't believe a thing Hero says unless links to credible websites are provided. Why should I do all the work for you? Get someone to show you how to use the internet. There are these things called "Google" and "Yahoo" (I don't make up the names...). They have these things called search engines...and you can specify 'news' searches to avoid random websites like this one and search only news services such as local news stations, newspapers, etc. Pick out whichever ones you like...in this case you get decent coverage from other local and out of state papers and local news. Now here is the hard part. Type in the words "Martin", "Twitter", and "record". Enjoy. H
Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Asshole.
Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:46 PM
Monday, April 30, 2012 8:19 AM
Monday, April 30, 2012 11:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: ...giving breaks to veterans while throwing the book at a retarded 17-year-old, all on a pretty whimsical basis. Of all of the people here, he's one of the creepier ones.
Monday, April 30, 2012 2:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: she was way more mature then [than] I am even now.
Tuesday, May 1, 2012 5:33 AM
Quote: pretty simple, even sad schlepp, who took on the role of watchman rather unselfishly
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