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Romney Supporter Threatens to Rape CBS News Producer

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Friday, May 4, 2012 5:58 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/05/04/ted-nugent-cbs-interview-crazy/

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Ted Nugent really needs to learn the art of keeping one’s mouth shut. Not even a month removed from telling gun nuts at a National Rifle Association rally that they should have shot Democrats and President Obama and must “chop their heads off in November, Nugent flew into a rage in an interview with CBS reporter Jeff Glor.

CBS’ This Morning’s Jeff Glor asked Nugent if the Romney campaign had a problem with his NRA comments. Nugent said that the Romney campaign has expressed nothing but support for him after the outrageous remarks. “Stay on course, Ted,” the Romney campaign reportedly told Nugent. “Freedom of speech is a beautiful thing.”

Nugent accused liberals of misinterpreting his NRA remarks, denying that they were a threat against anybody. Glor pointed out that Nugent isn’t a moderate, and that’s when Nugent went off the deep end. After claiming that he’s a “loving man” and “nice guy,” Nugent made sexual comments to Glor and a nearby female CBS producer.

“Call me when you sit down across from someone who has more families with dying little boys and girls who get a call to take them on their last fishing trip in life! Call me when you meet someone who does that more than I do because that’s really moderate! In fact, you know what that is? That’s extreme! I’m an extremely loving, passionate man! And people who investigate me honestly — without the baggage of political correctness — ascertain the conclusion that I’m a damn nice guy! And if you can find a screening process more powerful than that, I’ll suck your fucking dick!”

After offering Glor some man-on-man action, Nugent then threatened to “f*ck” a female CBS producer, turning to her and screaming “Or fuck you! How’s that sound?”

Nugent later claimed that a kidney stone caused him to lash out and apologized for his remarks. Considering the many outrageous things Nugent has said since he became a conservative mouthpiece, it’s highly doubtful that his tantrum during the interview was anything but purposeful and sincere. Seriously, Mitt Romney is really proud to have this guy as a supporter? Sounds like Nugent and Romney both need to get their heads examined.



Seems ol' Teddy always has a way to avoid taking personal responsibility for his actions. First he shit himself to dodge the draft, and now he's claiming that kidney stones forced him to threaten a female producer with rape.

What a class act! Romney must be so proud!



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Saturday, May 5, 2012 1:34 AM

WHOZIT


Bill Clinton raped a woman in 1979, he is hero to Democrats.

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Saturday, May 5, 2012 3:52 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


How far from reality are folks who think (or try to convince themselves) that someone angrily yelling "Fuck You!" is an invitation to have sex?

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Saturday, May 5, 2012 5:49 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


What Nugent said:

"And if you can find a screening process more powerful than that, I’ll suck your fucking dick! [Turns to woman] Or fuck you! How's that sound?"




But Geezer swears he didn't mean anything by that. Of course, he also thinks that threatening to rape a woman is "an invitation to have sex", so that says something about Geezer, but I'm not sure it's flattering...



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Saturday, May 5, 2012 5:50 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Bill Clinton raped a woman in 1979, he is hero to Democrats.




Nugent is a serial pedophile, and a hero to Teapublicans.

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Saturday, May 5, 2012 6:34 AM

WHOZIT


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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Bill Clinton raped a woman in 1979, he is hero to Democrats.




Nugent is a serial pedophile, and a hero to Teapublicans.



Nugent wasn't the leader of the free world, Clinton punched the woman and then raped her. After he raped her he told to put some ice on that lip. It won't be until years from now when unbias historians condem Slick Willie, history will not be kind to Clinton, I don't think it'll be kind to Kennedy either. Kennedy may have been an OK Prez but the but the bloom is off the Kennedy rose, how many women have these dirtbags hurt or killed? History will get these stories straight, it's a shame we won't be alive to see it.

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Saturday, May 5, 2012 8:22 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Odd that you failed to mention Bush Sr, Shrub and their little boy toys, complete with credit card reciepts, the white house visitors log, and a phony news-propaganda service even run by one of em set up to lob softball questions.

-F

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Saturday, May 5, 2012 9:22 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

Odd that you failed to mention Bush Sr, Shrub and their little boy toys, complete with credit card reciepts, the white house visitors log, and a phony news-propaganda service even run by one of em set up to lob softball questions.

-F



If any of this was true you know MSNBC and CNN would have made a big deal out of that, I'm still waitting for the tape of Jr dancing nude on the bar. If so Larry Flint would have put that on YOUTUBE by now. You got nothing, but what I got the MSM will alway ignore. What have you got on Romney? Did he eat the dog he tied to the roof of his car?

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Saturday, May 5, 2012 10:27 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Bill Clinton raped a woman in 1979, he is hero to Democrats.




Nugent is a serial pedophile, and a hero to Teapublicans.



Nugent wasn't the leader of the free world, Clinton punched the woman and then raped her. After he raped her he told to put some ice on that lip. It won't be until years from now when unbias historians condem Slick Willie, history will not be kind to Clinton, I don't think it'll be kind to Kennedy either. Kennedy may have been an OK Prez but the but the bloom is off the Kennedy rose, how many women have these dirtbags hurt or killed? History will get these stories straight, it's a shame we won't be alive to see it.



Any othewr fictions you'd like to share?

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Saturday, May 5, 2012 10:29 AM

STORYMARK


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Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

Odd that you failed to mention Bush Sr, Shrub and their little boy toys, complete with credit card reciepts, the white house visitors log, and a phony news-propaganda service even run by one of em set up to lob softball questions.

-F



If any of this was true you know MSNBC and CNN would have made a big deal out of that, I'm still waitting for the tape of Jr dancing nude on the bar. If so Larry Flint would have put that on YOUTUBE by now. You got nothing, but what I got the MSM will alway ignore. What have you got on Romney? Did he eat the dog he tied to the roof of his car?



Nice to see that a grasp on irony continues to elude you...

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Saturday, May 5, 2012 10:32 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Bill Clinton raped a woman in 1979, he is hero to Democrats.




Nugent is a serial pedophile, and a hero to Teapublicans.



Nugent wasn't the leader of the free world, Clinton punched the woman and then raped her. After he raped her he told to put some ice on that lip. It won't be until years from now when unbias historians condem Slick Willie, history will not be kind to Clinton, I don't think it'll be kind to Kennedy either. Kennedy may have been an OK Prez but the but the bloom is off the Kennedy rose, how many women have these dirtbags hurt or killed? History will get these stories straight, it's a shame we won't be alive to see it.



Any othewr fictions you'd like to share?

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"



Nope, I'm good.

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Saturday, May 5, 2012 10:42 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

Odd that you failed to mention Bush Sr, Shrub and their little boy toys, complete with credit card reciepts, the white house visitors log, and a phony news-propaganda service even run by one of em set up to lob softball questions.

-F




Heck, Iraq and Afghanistan put Shrub far ahead of Clinton and all the Kennedys combined on the women and children death toll...



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Saturday, May 5, 2012 11:41 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



No threat, a mere challenge. Pretty sure he feels comfortable enough to make such a bold offer, to, so that he'd never have to pay up on it.

It's not like he planned to blow up anything, like Obama's buddy Bill Ayers.



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Saturday, May 5, 2012 11:46 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

Odd that you failed to mention Bush Sr, Shrub and their little boy toys, complete with credit card reciepts, the white house visitors log, and a phony news-propaganda service even run by one of em set up to lob softball questions.

-F




Heck, Iraq and Afghanistan put Shrub far ahead of Clinton and all the Kennedys combined on the women and children death toll...



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions



All the women the Kennnedys hurt, were they in the Military? Or were just drunken bitches that wanted to fuck a Kennedy? Ask Ted, oh no, he's dead.

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Saturday, May 5, 2012 12:25 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


All the women and children the Bushes killed, were they in the military? Were they Taliban or al-Qaeda?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Saturday, May 5, 2012 2:30 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
What have you got on Romney?


Have you like, NOT been paying ATTENTION for the past four YEARS ?
Jeepers creepers, where do we even START - the Hellcamps, Sembler and Lichfield, Bain Capital, campaign finance flakery....
Hell, I was shredding Romney before most folk here even knew who the hell he was.

-F


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Saturday, May 5, 2012 2:55 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
What have you got on Romney?


Have you like, NOT been paying ATTENTION for the past four YEARS ?
Jeepers creepers, where do we even START - the Hellcamps, Sembler and Lichfield, Bain Capital, campaign finance flakery....
Hell, I was shredding Romney before most folk here even knew who the hell he was.

-F






Damned right you were, and I for one thank you for it!



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Monday, May 7, 2012 2:38 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
What Nugent said:

"And if you can find a screening process more powerful than that, I’ll suck your fucking dick! [Turns to woman] Or fuck you! How's that sound?"

But Geezer swears he didn't mean anything by that. Of course, he also thinks that threatening to rape a woman is "an invitation to have sex", so that says something about Geezer, but I'm not sure it's flattering...



You, (and the writer of the article) seem to be the ones facinated by rape.

Nugent's saying, "If you do this for me, buddy, I'll provide you with sex in appreciation. And you too, Ma'am. How's that sound?" Hey, it's "Make love, not war", Man! And he's even showing support of the gay community by offering to have sex with a man.


Compare and contrast with a well-known associate of Pres. Obama who has recently visited the White House, and his take on Obama's opposition. "I wish they were all fucking dead." Kill 'em all. Not even an offer of sex, unless he's a Muslim that goes for the "Six hours after he or she's dead is OK." Fatwa. (On the other hand, he could be wishing THEY were all necrophiliacs instead of him (Or as well as, if he's that particular kind of Muslim), but what kind of President would be friends with someone who wanted more necrophilia? Or any at all, for that matter? Eww.

So based on these examples (and since you seem to believe that one example ALWAYS exemplifies an entire group).

Republicans - Party of peace and love.

Democrats - All our enemies should die, and maybe we'll screw thair dead bodies later.

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Monday, May 7, 2012 3:53 AM

BYTEMITE


...None of those things qualify as threatening to rape anyone in context...

But on the other hand, this just is more evidence for a theory of mine that the guy who has to go around constantly asserting he's a nice guy probably isn't.

Sounds to me like he has personal demons. Might be a narcissist, might be he has other even worse problems and him working with kids is an attempt at balancing out his dark side. Either way, not sure just volunteer work or charitable action is enough to make a person sincerely nice.

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Monday, May 7, 2012 5:14 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:

But on the other hand, this just is more evidence for a theory of mine that the guy who has to go around constantly asserting he's a nice guy probably isn't.



Nailed it.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, May 7, 2012 7:07 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
What Nugent said:

"And if you can find a screening process more powerful than that, I’ll suck your fucking dick! [Turns to woman] Or fuck you! How's that sound?"

But Geezer swears he didn't mean anything by that. Of course, he also thinks that threatening to rape a woman is "an invitation to have sex", so that says something about Geezer, but I'm not sure it's flattering...



You, (and the writer of the article) seem to be the ones facinated by rape.

Nugent's saying, "If you do this for me, buddy, I'll provide you with sex in appreciation. And you too, Ma'am. How's that sound?" Hey, it's "Make love, not war", Man! And he's even showing support of the gay community by offering to have sex with a man.


Compare and contrast with a well-known associate of Pres. Obama who has recently visited the White House, and his take on Obama's opposition. "I wish they were all fucking dead." Kill 'em all. Not even an offer of sex, unless he's a Muslim that goes for the "Six hours after he or she's dead is OK." Fatwa. (On the other hand, he could be wishing THEY were all necrophiliacs instead of him (Or as well as, if he's that particular kind of Muslim), but what kind of President would be friends with someone who wanted more necrophilia? Or any at all, for that matter? Eww.

So based on these examples (and since you seem to believe that one example ALWAYS exemplifies an entire group).

Republicans - Party of peace and love.

Democrats - All our enemies should die, and maybe we'll screw thair dead bodies later.




Of course, there's also the example of your own dear lord and messiah, Bush, who you love because he created so very many dead Muslims for you to fuck, which you seem to be really into, given your fascination with it...



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Monday, May 7, 2012 7:09 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


And yes, Nugent thinks it's some great reward he's offering by saying he'll fuck this woman if she can prove him wrong.

I'm sure he isn't trying to be threatening in any way...

It really is fun watching Geezer and Rappy flip-flopping all over themselves in vain efforts to justify and endorse ol' shit-britches's behavior, though. It's almost cute.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Monday, May 7, 2012 9:08 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Of course, there's also the example of your own dear lord and messiah, Bush,...


Never voted for either Bush, so that'd be a false assumption on your part, like so may others.

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...who you love because he created so very many dead Muslims for you to fuck, which you seem to be really into, given your fascination with it...


Okay, so now you're calling me a sick fuck. Feel better?

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Monday, May 7, 2012 9:44 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

It really is fun watching Geezer and Rappy flip-flopping all over themselves in vain efforts to justify and endorse ol' shit-britches's behavior, though. It's almost cute.



Flip flopping ? I neither flipped OR flopped.

I made 1 comment, and it was a correction of the nonsensical headline.

Not sure I either endorsed OR justified anything here, but merely stated how Ted seemingly saw things. I think his comments were idiotic, personally.

Meanwhile, in a completely different topic, the OccuTrash terrorist who wanted to blow up the bridge in Cleveland is DIRECTLY tied to the Occupy movement. But that's not really an issue for THIS thread, of course.

Suspect in bridge bombing plot signed lease on Occupy Cleveland warehouse

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/05/terror_suspect_signed
_lease_on.html




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Monday, May 7, 2012 11:25 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Of course, there's also the example of your own dear lord and messiah, Bush,...


Never voted for either Bush, so that'd be a false assumption on your part, like so may others.

Quote:

...who you love because he created so very many dead Muslims for you to fuck, which you seem to be really into, given your fascination with it...


Okay, so now you're calling me a sick fuck. Feel better?




I am? Did I call you a Muslim, too?

Or are you doing your usual, and just making shit up again?



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Monday, May 7, 2012 1:07 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
But on the other hand, this just is more evidence for a theory of mine that the guy who has to go around constantly asserting he's a nice guy probably isn't.


*fluffs his dark cape and cackles menacingly*

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Monday, May 7, 2012 2:42 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


>>>Romney Supporter Threatens to Rape CBS News Producer

The question is, was she HOTT?

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Monday, May 7, 2012 6:30 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Nugent must be doing drugs, I mean really. But he's never really been a decent sort, so who's surprised? This doesn't technically count as threatening to rape someone in context though as Byte said, even though its grotty, rude and grotty doesn't equal rape threat.

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

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Monday, May 7, 2012 6:49 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by RionaEire:
Nugent must be doing drugs, I mean really. But he's never really been a decent sort, so who's surprised? This doesn't technically count as threatening to rape someone in context though as Byte said, even though its grotty, rude and grotty doesn't equal rape threat.

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.



Believe it or not, he's not nor has ever been a drug user. He speaks out passionately against the use of drugs, as I understand.

But of course it's no where near a rape threat. It's silly to claim so. The only reason it's being done is because he supports the GOP. Of all the vile things said by Democrats towards women, those get completely glossed over. It's just fine when they do it.




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Tuesday, May 8, 2012 2:04 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Of course, there's also the example of your own dear lord and messiah, Bush,...


Never voted for either Bush, so that'd be a false assumption on your part, like so may others.

Quote:

...who you love because he created so very many dead Muslims for you to fuck, which you seem to be really into, given your fascination with it...


Okay, so now you're calling me a sick fuck. Feel better?




I am?



Yes.

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Tuesday, May 8, 2012 5:15 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
But on the other hand, this just is more evidence for a theory of mine that the guy who has to go around constantly asserting he's a nice guy probably isn't.


*fluffs his dark cape and cackles menacingly*



*peers* *considers*

No, no, it doesn't seem to work in reverse. :P

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Tuesday, May 8, 2012 6:24 AM

HKCAVALIER


Hey Mike,

Seriously. Seriously. Do you, as in you, the guy typing these posts--do you really consider TN's remarks to constitute a threat of rape? I really can't see how you can. First he boasts that if the interviewer can find a more charitable man than TN, he'll suck the guy's dick. That's an offer, a pledge of generocity as he sees it. But then he realizes that, "Wha-oh, that sounded kinda gay..." and then in a spontaneous act of homophobic cya he blurts to the female producer that he would gladly offer the same sexual generocity to her.

You know what would be really cool? If you just fessed up that the whole point of this thread was to wind Geezer and Raptor up and let it go. Personally, I'm not a fan of folks talking about someone "threatening rape" unless, y'know, there's an actual threat of rape involved.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Tuesday, May 8, 2012 7:35 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by HKCavalier:
You know what would be really cool? If you just fessed up that the whole point of this thread was to wind Geezer and Raptor up and let it go.


Umm, this wasn't OBVIOUS to EVERYONE BUT THEM ??
And all the funnier in a screwed up sort of way BECAUSE of that ?


-Frem

PS. Generally not, but there's folks that call me on it quite often, Byte.

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Tuesday, May 8, 2012 1:20 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


It seemed the only explanation for why his brain is mushy, the most likely explanation anyway. His moral terpatude leaves a lot to be desired.

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

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Tuesday, May 8, 2012 1:42 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Hey Mike,

You know what would be really cool? If you just fessed up that the whole point of this thread was to wind Geezer and Raptor up and let it go. Personally, I'm not a fan of folks talking about someone "threatening rape" unless, y'know, there's an actual threat of rape involved.

HKCavalier



No winding up for me on this matter. *shrugs*

If that indeed was Kwickie's intent, then he failed. ( Yet again )



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Tuesday, May 8, 2012 2:15 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yes, and it's been kinda fun to watch. In the first place, they were obviously no statements of "rape", just reeeely bad remarks. End of story. But, but, but, the righties have to reach for SOME comeback, they can't just say that. So we get, in response to a couple of rude statements that Mike characterized as rape:

Bill Clinton raped a woman (and more conspiracy idiocy, but then we don't expect less from Whatzit)

"How far from reality" (tho', except for him taking Mike seriously, his interpretation is the correct one)

Bill Ayres brought into the conversation (despite having absolutely NOTHING to do with...anything...)

"Nugent saying, "If you do this for me, buddy, I'll provide you with sex in appreciation. And you too, Ma'am. How's that sound?" Hey, it's "Make love, not war", Man! And he's even showing support of the gay community by offering to have sex with a man." (I have GOT to believe that's satire...he couldn't possibly be serious!)

Something (again totally unrelated) about something some Obama supporter said.

Bill Ayres didn't work, so Raptor switches to the guys who threatened to blow up a bridge, also totally unrealted to anything.

I need to address that one because he lied in citing it. The people involved were, again, ANARCHISTS, not involved with OccupyCleveland:
Quote:

The five men were “self-proclaimed anarchists,” who intended to detonate two improvised explosive devices (IEDs) under the bridge in Sagamore Hills, but had purchased the inert devices from undercover FBI agents, officials said.
As to the FBI's involvement, I will refrain from judgment except to say that we've questioned their actions in the past and it certainly worked if one were attempting to smear the Occupy movement. As to the allegations of "involvement" and the lease:
Quote:

Hayne happened to be on hand when the organization leased the warehouse to store items and serve as housing for some members.

"We needed a name on the lease, and he agreed to be it," Zitt said. "I want to stress that rent [$600 a month] for the warehouse was paid directly to the landlord. No money was ever given to Hayne." http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/05/terror_suspect_signed
_lease_on.html
got his name off the lease the minute they found out. They even cancelled a planned in Cleveland because of what happened:
Quote:

The event was cancelled, however, because of “the alleged actions of the autonomous group arrested (Monday) night,” the statement said, adding that “Occupy Cleveland has had affirmed principles of non-violence since its inception on October 6, 2011.”

"Today's event Occupy GE (General Electric) was canceled because there were rumors these guys were involved,” said Debbie Kline of Jobs with Justice. “They were NEVER at the table.

“It’s been over a month we've been planning this. We will do this in the future. We'll do this again. But it would have been in bad taste to do today."

Bomb plot suspect Brandon Baxter came to a Jobs with Justice “spring training” event this year to learn about non-violent action, she said.

"When you're in a movement, you can't kick people out when they are volunteers," Kline said. "These five were acting on their own, they didn't have any part of the greater movement." http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/05/bridge_bomb_plot_fbi_
says_occu.html
that "Jobs for Justice" is not Occupy...many groups were involved in the May Day protests. Aside from that, their only involvement was to have participated in other Occupy events OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. As the head of the committee on Homeland Security put it:
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"I think most people involved with the Occupy Movement are innocent, but it creates an environment that encourages criminal behavior," said Rep. Peter King, (R-N.Y.), who heads the House Committee on Homeland Security. "What they [occupiers] do [creates] a climate for wackos to carry out their plans." A internal report Department of Homeland Security report released by WikiLeaks in October, entitled "Special Coverage: Occupy Wall Street," warned that the movement's mantra of peaceful protest would not preclude acts of violence taken up in its name.

"The growing support for the OWS movement has expanded the protests’ impact and increased the potential for violence," said the report, released as part of a joint document dump by WikiLeaks and Rolling Stone. "While the peaceful nature of the protests has served so far to mitigate their impact, larger numbers and support from groups such as Anonymous substantially increase the risk for potential incidents and enhance the potential security risk to critical infrastructure." http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/04/ohio-bridge-bomb-plot-hatched-by-
occupiers/
movement which attracts attention and is against TPTB also attracts fringe groups.

That's by way of clarifying the erroneous statement posted here.

The other side has been equally absurd, I just find it funny that the title brought about so many silly things having nothing to do with it.

And yes, it did wind you up, Raptor...rather than content yourself with " It's silly to claim so", which would have sufficed, you found it necessary to reach for Bill Ayres, OccupyCleveland, saying it was only done because he's GOP, and "vile remarks" by Democrats. That's called winding you up. He succeeded.

You could try and claim you wound ME up with your mischaracterization of Occupy, but I will always clarify untruths about Occupy, as I'm involved in it and have a vested interest in defending it. That's my reason, but you had NOTHING to defend, except you believed he was actually going after Nugent...and I can't believe you were defending HIM, so...? You got wound up, period.



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Tuesday, May 8, 2012 3:56 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Of course, there's also the example of your own dear lord and messiah, Bush,...


Never voted for either Bush, so that'd be a false assumption on your part, like so may others.

Quote:

...who you love because he created so very many dead Muslims for you to fuck, which you seem to be really into, given your fascination with it...


Okay, so now you're calling me a sick fuck. Feel better?




I am?



Yes.




Now where did I say that?



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Tuesday, May 8, 2012 4:06 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
Nugent must be doing drugs, I mean really. But he's never really been a decent sort, so who's surprised? This doesn't technically count as threatening to rape someone in context though as Byte said, even though its grotty, rude and grotty doesn't equal rape threat.

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.



Believe it or not, he's not nor has ever been a drug user. He speaks out passionately against the use of drugs, as I understand.



That's not true. Nugent himself said that he did meth to get out of being drafted. It was part of his "strategy", which also included shitting himself for a week or more and living in it. In an interview, he claimed that he did meth to help him dodge the draft and keep him from having to serve his country, and to "wreak havoc on these imbeciles in the armed service."

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/nugent.asp

There's your right-wing hero.




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Wednesday, May 9, 2012 3:09 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by HKCavalier:
You know what would be really cool? If you just fessed up that the whole point of this thread was to wind Geezer and Raptor up and let it go.



I dunno, I enjoy seeing Mike run through his repertorie. The taken out of context. The implication, so later he can say "Where did I say that?" The insult so he can draw a heated reply to complain about. For some reason, he's missed the "But Bush..." this time, and the "Show me where it's in the Constitution" doesn't seem to apply.

Now we'll probably get a list of my "repertorie" from him.

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Wednesday, May 9, 2012 5:13 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Only if someone keeps track of you enough to or cares enough to LIST your M.O.

By the way, saying something is different from implicating it. So you ARE wrong if you claim someone said something someone only implied. I didn't follow this thread much, but the fact is you can't be called to task if you say "you implied"--the person can always say they didn't, but neither can be proven. Get it?



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Wednesday, May 9, 2012 7:44 AM

BYTEMITE


Department of Homeland Security is most concerned about ANONYMOUS?

*Face palm*

Anonymous excels at spamming servers off the face of the internet and stealing financial information, yeah, but really?

That assertion about Occupy being a threat because of Anonymous activity is beyond nonsensical. I'm not even sure they're trying anymore to justify crack downs.

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Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:49 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

No threat, a mere challenge. Pretty sure he feels comfortable enough to make such a bold offer, to, so that he'd never have to pay up on it.


Where I'm from, a challenge like that'd get you a free can o' whupass. In slightly less 'physical' circles, it could lead to a lawsuit.
Lucky for him he's a rich white privileged asshole that nothing can happen to.

Chrisisall, wearing a frilly Mal thing on his head, and ready to shoot unarmed, full-body armoured Operatives

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Wednesday, May 9, 2012 11:24 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by HKCavalier:
You know what would be really cool? If you just fessed up that the whole point of this thread was to wind Geezer and Raptor up and let it go.



I dunno, I enjoy seeing Mike run through his repertorie. The taken out of context. The implication, so later he can say "Where did I say that?" The insult so he can draw a heated reply to complain about. For some reason, he's missed the "But Bush..." this time, and the "Show me where it's in the Constitution" doesn't seem to apply.

Now we'll probably get a list of my "repertorie" from him.




Said list would just be redundant, Geezer. You've just listed every single thing you're capable of as far as "debate" goes. Why would I repeat it?

Would you like a list of links for your repertoire? Your "Now where did I say that?", your insults, your "But liberals..."?

If you ever offered an original thought, a novel idea, or a valid argument, it would be the first time. At this late date, though, I doubt we'll ever see any such thing from you.





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Wednesday, May 9, 2012 11:40 AM

BYTEMITE


My repertoire goes something like: grumble grumble snarl teeth bared RAGE seethe sulk grumble grumbled apology depressed grumble whining TOO MUCH WHINING suicidal comments bitchy snarking regular snarking whimsical joke WHEE MANIAC CHEERFULNESS lol tired grumble.

It kind of cycles around.

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Wednesday, May 9, 2012 1:53 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Interesting annalysis of your repetoir Byte. I wonder what my repetoir is, probably not very exciting or clever. I try to keep the meanness to a minimum at least, occasionally provoked by others being mean to me but usually fairly at bay. Also my honesty about my opinions could possibly be charactorized as meanness occasionally, but I try to limit that too. Apparently passive agressiveness is part of my repetoir when provoked, but I'm okay with this and the more I consider it the less it bothers me. In fact I really don't see it as a problem.

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

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Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:37 PM

CHRISISALL


My repertoire used to be okay, but, let's see, not really, have you considered, no way, lol, ha ha, yer full of crap...

Now it's, bullshit; you should know better. Like Max said, what little patience I had, is now gone.

Chrisisall, wearing a frilly Mal thing on his head, and ready to shoot unarmed, full-body armoured Operatives

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Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:59 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

No threat, a mere challenge. Pretty sure he feels comfortable enough to make such a bold offer, to, so that he'd never have to pay up on it.


Where I'm from, a challenge like that'd get you a free can o' whupass. In slightly less 'physical' circles, it could lead to a lawsuit.
Lucky for him he's a rich white privileged asshole that nothing can happen to.



If he's 'rich', it's because of his lifetime of work put into his music, and other endeavors. White ? Yeah, I suppose he is. Unless he's claiming to be 1/32nd Cherokee, or some such. What of it ?

Privileged ? Based on what, exactly, do you make that claim?

Asshole ? Meh... could be. Many 'famous' folks aren't the sorts you'd like to know on a personal basis. Not all, but it seems Ted has a bit of an excessive personality.

I bet if he really HAD threatened to rape anyone, he'd be in some trouble. But he didn't, so he's not.



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