ENOUGH ALREADY!!!! by Niki2

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ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!

POSTED BY: NIKI2
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 01:49
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Monday, May 14, 2012 2:27 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Jezus Kriste, people, you are letting Raptor TAKE OVER this whole damned forum, don't you realize it?

Yeah, I'm as guilty as the next guy--maybe moreso as I've been pulled back into responding to his idiocy, BUT:

In the last TWO HOURS, only six threads have been posted in. Of those six threads, FIVE of them:

Bully
Obama Gay...
Obama Makes it Official.....
Maybe Niki's right.....
The Left's ongoing...

Have been arguments WITH Raptor or people talking ABOUT Raptor or Raptor arguing with others...

Only one, "War on Babies", has escaped. ONE. In two hours.

Don't you think it's time to have an intervention here; something to break us of the RaptorAddiction which is going on in RWED? I sure do. Okay, so he says stupid stuff. He lies, then persists in claiming he didn't. He makes stuff up. He doesn't cite facts or make sensible arguments. He makes you want to call him out. He makes you want to state what's REAL. HE LURES YOU IN...

And we BUY INTO IT! It's time to STOP, don'tcha think? Recognize what's an absurd waste of time and what's not, and who's here to communicate and who's NOT, just here for attention. You gotta know he's gleefully skipping from thread about/to him to thread about/to him, giggling all the way, loving it.

Oonj posted a truly wonderful quote from Bill Munn: "One of the saddest things I have found in my internet forum experience is how powerfully the 'win at all cost' mentality has poisoned most discussions, and how few people actually feel that true understanding is the most valuable prize to win. So these 'win at all cost' people refuse the most fundamental method of trying to resolve disputes, and once they do, the dialogues just end up as verbal shoving matches with no real winner." I tried to incorporate it into my signature, but it doesn't seem to all come out. It's a reminder, it reminded ME, to think about why I'm here and start paying attention.

I'm going back to reminding all you how stupid it is to engage Raptor (or several others, but especially him). And I'm going back to reminding ME, too. This is ridiculous!

I'm outta here...

"One of the saddest things I have found in my internet forum experience is how powerfully the 'win at all cost' mentality has poisoned most discussions, and how few people actually feel that true understanding is the most valuable prize to win. So these 'win at all cost' people refuse the most fundamental method of trying to resolve disputes, and once they do, the dialogues just end up as verbal shoving matches with no real winner." Bill Munn

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Monday, May 14, 2012 2:42 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

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Originally posted by Niki2:
It's a reminder, it reminded ME, to think about why I'm here and start paying attention.

I'm going back to reminding all you how stupid it is to engage Raptor (or several others, but especially him). And I'm going back to reminding ME, too. This is ridiculous!

I'm outta here...

Things would be so much easier if this was a dictatorship and you were the dictator right?
Damn first ammendment always getting in the way of your reasonable discussions huh?

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Monday, May 14, 2012 3:22 PM

STORYMARK

To be fair, Nikki, you scold us for going around with Rappy fairly regularly - but get caught up doin the same yourself pretty often.

That said - I was serious in my prior post. Why not just we all ignore him for a while. No "dictatoryship" to use bignobody's hyperbolic term - just ignore him. He has made it clear that he's uninterested in actual conversation (and I, for my part, am uninterested in conversation with him anyway). How much fun will he really have talking with no one but "hero," whozit, geezer and BDN?

He wants to be the new PN - let him.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, May 14, 2012 3:23 PM

OONJERAH

Yeah, but --

There's a part of this website called "Troll Country," and I always thought
the Trolls were supposed to stay there voluntarily.

Silly Me!

But here's the Guru part: Resist Not Evil. (Not real easy to learn.)
When I see the Bait, remind myself, "O! That's not for me! That's troll bait!"

And then, because I am weak, I routinely skip threads started by Super Trolls,
and often skip their posts in threads I like. There was a Troll attack in one
of my own threads yesterday; but with great restraint, I ignored it.

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Monday, May 14, 2012 4:20 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

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Originally posted by Storymark:
How much fun will he really have talking with no one but "hero," whozit, geezer and BDN?

The real question is how much "fun" will the rest of you have without him?

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Monday, May 14, 2012 4:37 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I have to pat myself on the back. rappy did his usual idiotic shtick on a topic near and dear to my heart, about which I know quite a bit and he knows.... well, nothing. And I refrained. I did, praise the Lord! And I saw that thread sink into oblivion, where it belongs.

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Monday, May 14, 2012 5:23 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Of the threads you listed, I only started 2. Others, I stayed away from, for the most part, until much had already been said. Only the 'Obama makes it official', did I add my 2 cents in, sorta kinda early on. Just like everyone else.

Do I wish I could post something / anything, with out folks taking personal pot shots at me,first ? Yep. But it seems no matter what I say, how 'on issue' I tend to be, I get vilified.

And Niki, you only have yourself to blame. YOU got so tweaked up over the Obama 'god' nonsense, which was something I only replied to Kwickie over something he said in the first place. THEN I was proven right, which you even said.... well, I won't replay that all over again. We know how that's played out.

Strike me down, and I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.

" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

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Monday, May 14, 2012 8:52 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

I wish people paid as much attention to me as they pay Raptor. Of course I prefer positive attention, but sometimes when one is feeling down any attention is better than none at all. My niece, will be 2 in June, is at the stage where negative attention is better than no attention so she throws fits to get attention, negative, from her parents. We tell them to just ignore her and she'll stop, because she isn't getting her attention needs met by screaming, its typical behavior for her age bracket. But they don't listen and yell at her, which is counterproductive.

I don't know how conspiratorial Raptor's attention getting tactics actually are, but he certainly presents as someone who likes being contrary just to be contrary. Again I've got to think of some clever attention getting strategies, that lure everyone in like flies to honey but that don't result in people being mean to me. Picky I know. :)

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:42 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...

Didn't see this thread when I posted in the Bully thread:
"Congratulations to you guys (Niki, Storymark, Kwicko), but saying it and doing it are 2 different things. I think there should be something at stake, like who ever caves and tries to out duel Mr. AU has to have something in their signature, "Auraptor is the Enlightened One." Or, "Auraptor is the only voice of reason on these boards." Something like that to make it intersting, say for the rest of May?"

Niki, if I had a bent farthing for every time you said you were going to stop speaking to so-n-so or chided others for doing so... I could produce the next season of Serenity :)

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:31 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Quote:
Resist Not Evil. (Not real easy to learn.)
When I see the Bait, remind myself, "O! That's not for me! That's troll bait!"

Quote:
saying it and doing it are 2 different things

Words to live by. I'm gonna try...again.

Pizmo, as far as I can remember, Raptor is the only person I keep trying not to engage, and yes, I fail, he's very good at what he does, but at least I TRY.

Story, you cute thing you, I don't believe I EVER denied that I get caught up pretty often. That's part of why I pulled myself up sharply and thought "Jayzus, you're doing it again, right along with the rest of them!" Like I said, I TRY.

Sig and Oonj, congratualtions and Praise the Lord indeed! I shall endeavor to remember your examples and follow them. End of story.

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:58 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

We might also have a MORATORIUM on pages-long CUT-AND-PASTES, the PHRASE "Oh My Gawd", and calling ANYONE who disagrees WITH us a moron or insane...but I'm not HOPEFUL.

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:22 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
We might also have a MORATORIUM on pages-long CUT-AND-PASTES, the PHRASE "Oh My Gawd", and calling ANYONE who disagrees WITH us a moron or insane...but I'm not HOPEFUL.

Geeze, that would result in SOME folks with posts consisting of only silly emoticons , or nothing at all.

" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 6:53 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Quote:
And I'm going back to reminding ME, too.

Hello,

This is the only person who needs reminding. Authoring posts which remind others is functionally the same as responding to the person yourself.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Never forget what these men are.
“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:14 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by RionaEire:

I don't know how conspiratorial Raptor's attention getting tactics actually are, but he certainly presents as someone who likes being contrary just to be contrary. Again I've got to think of some clever attention getting strategies, that lure everyone in like flies to honey but that don't result in people being mean to me. Picky I know. :)

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

Actually, Riona, I'm not that clever. I really do believe what I'm saying, and am simply trying to add my 2 cents into the conversation. Niki seems to think that it's impossible for ANY one to have the views I have, which really aren't extreme in the least. I'm quite middle of the road, by most respects. Maybe it's the tone in which I respond to some here, but hey... you throw rocks at me, I'm gonna respond in kind, and maybe a little more. ( Not that YOU, Riona, would throw rocks... )

" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:42 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
We might also have a MORATORIUM on pages-long CUT-AND-PASTES, the PHRASE "Oh My Gawd", and calling ANYONE who disagrees WITH us a moron or insane...but I'm not HOPEFUL.

Moron.

-F

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Wednesday, May 16, 2012 1:49 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
We might also have a MORATORIUM on pages-long CUT-AND-PASTES, the PHRASE "Oh My Gawd", and calling ANYONE who disagrees WITH us a moron or insane...but I'm not HOPEFUL.

Moron.

-F

Nutcase.

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