Banks' Conviction Overturned -- Late by Oonjerah

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

She didn't come forward because she doesn't want to pay back the money...

Really, paying back the money should be the LEAST of her worries right now. She sent a man to fucking PRISON for a crime that never happened, and in the process screwed him out of a college scholarship and education, a shot at the pros, and so much of his life.

And for what? A payday?

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:50 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
She didn't come forward because she doesn't want to pay back the money...

Really, paying back the money should be the LEAST of her worries right now. She sent a man to fucking PRISON for a crime that never happened, and in the process screwed him out of a college scholarship and education, a shot at the pros, and so much of his life.

And for what? A payday?

It's scary today what evil women and children will do today when they know the laws and how the biases weigh heavily in their favor.

I don't know the answer to remedy this, so that's not what I'm saying.

All I'm saying is that it's a FACT that any judge or jury is going to automatically believe a woman or child when it comes to rape allegations or physical and/or emotional abuse.

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Thursday, May 24, 2012 3:22 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Reminds me of the Marcus Dixon case, here in GA.

Dixon v. Brown case

Kristie Brown alleged that on February 10, 2003 Dixon forced her to have sex, taking her virginity. She has stated that contrary to Dixon's supporters' belief she was never Dixon's girlfriend and although they shared classes, they barely knew each other. The jury acquitted Dixon of rape, battery, assault and false imprisonment but because Brown was only 16 at the time of the incident found him guilty of statutory rape and aggravated child molestation. Because of this Dixon was convicted at the mandatory amount under Georgia law, 10 years imprisonment. Ironically, if he had been found guilty of rape, he would have faced a much less severe punishment.

Supporters of Dixon including the NAACP and the Rev. Joseph Lowery's People's Agenda alleged the charges were racially motivated. The President of the Children's Defense Fund, Marian Wright Edelman called it a "Legal Lynching".

Overturned conviction and release

Georgia Supreme Court overturned Dixon's conviction and he was released May 3, 2004. They let his conviction of misdemeanor statutory rape stand. After Dixon's release both he and Brown appeared on Oprah in an attempt to clarify their stories.

And still, after all that B.S., he was able to find a college, and then sign on w/ an NFL team. His career was a far cry from what it may have been, but thankfully, he still was able to salvage something.

" We're all just folk. " - Mal

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Thursday, May 24, 2012 3:42 PM

Here's to hoping this guy is able to salvage something as well.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Thursday, May 24, 2012 3:56 PM

RSOs: Registered Sex Offenders.
I believe that not all of them are guilty. They serve their time, often more than the
original sentence. Landlords are not allowed to discriminate against them based on
criminal record. But they do have to register as a sex offender every year of their
life, and of course, we can find them on Megan's List.

In my neighborhood, counting 2 blocks of it, there were 2. Another moved in, stayed
a year or so, moved out. So we're back to 2.

#3 was Al, very open and outgoing. He told us his story: He was quite innocent; his
ex-wife got him convicted for molesting their child, a complete lie, because she was
vengeful. The judge was a hanging judge. Al liked especially to tell about prison.
I told him to write a book; he said he was doing so.

Nice guy as he was, I am on the fence about his guilt or innocence. Why? I make a
stupid assumption. I feel the punishment for sex crimes is usually so severe and
ongoing, that no one would purposely ruin a man's life that way. Stupid me.

The problem with sex crimes is, they generate so much bad feelings, can most of us
be rational about them? If I were on a jury, would I be fair or biased? What if I was
getting bad vibes from the accused? That would probably sway my opinion.
(I keep in mind that sex crimes don't occur in the military; that's official.)

Guess I'm just nattering on about human fallability leads to many injustices.

Not going to wonder right now about Banks' accuser. Leave her to the media. If there's
any good in this, it's that Banks is still young enough to rebuild his life, and I wish him
well in that.

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I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it. ~Charles R Swindoll

If I have to react to others all the time, then they own my mind more than I do.
If I let others tell me how to feel, I lose my ability to choose happiness.
If I let others tell me who I am, I've vacated self-definition.
Finally, I realized how foolish I was to give others such power over me.

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Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:38 PM

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Originally posted by Oonjerah:

RSOs: Registered Sex Offenders.
I believe that not all of them are guilty. They serve their time, often more than the
original sentence. Landlords are not allowed to discriminate against them based on
criminal record. But they do have to register as a sex offender every year of their
life, and of course, we can find them on Megan's List.

In my neighborhood, counting 2 blocks of it, there were 2. Another moved in, stayed
a year or so, moved out. So we're back to 2.

#3 was Al, very open and outgoing. He told us his story: He was quite innocent; his
ex-wife got him convicted for molesting their child, a complete lie, because she was
vengeful. The judge was a hanging judge. Al liked especially to tell about prison.
I told him to write a book; he said he was doing so.

Nice guy as he was, I am on the fence about his guilt or innocence. Why? I make a
stupid assumption. I feel the punishment for sex crimes is usually so severe and
ongoing, that no one would purposely ruin a man's life that way. Stupid me.

The problem with sex crimes is, they generate so much bad feelings, can most of us
be rational about them? If I were on a jury, would I be fair or biased? What if I was
getting bad vibes from the accused? That would probably sway my opinion.
(I keep in mind that sex crimes don't occur in the military; that's official.)

Guess I'm just nattering on about human fallability leads to many injustices.

Not going to wonder right now about Banks' accuser. Leave her to the media. If there's
any good in this, it's that Banks is still young enough to rebuild his life, and I wish him
well in that.

You make a lot of good points here Oonjerah,

My biggest problem with the "sex-offender" list is that even somebody who was 18 and slept with a 15 or 16 year old girl could be on the exact same list that some guy who served 10 years for raping girls and putting their heads on pikes in his front lawn would be on, and there's no distinction remarked in these databases....

I'd recommend watching a movie called Jailbait from MTV studios from around 2000 about this. The guy was just some dumb jock with raging hormones had a Cheerleader Goddess girlfriend who wouldn't put out (and who also narrates the story). Some gorgeous filthy tramp trailer-park blonde 15-16 year old he met at a diner screwed his whole world up. I thought it was really funny that during or even after the court cases, nobody made a peep about the fact that she was really in love with a 30+ year old who got let go from prison who would go on to raise their child, and after the fact he was making nice with this guy in the hospital even though it was his own kid didn't make the court go easier on him. I guess that guy wasn't on the radar of the woman looking to become Mayor.....

Long story short, this guy would be thrown into just about as bad as a local online list as John Wayne Gacey.

Statutory rape today, in essence, is bullshit. Especially when the Girl is in control and the age difference is only 2 or 3 years.

Girls today, even more so than in 2000, know what they want and how to get it.

In the "protected" society we live in now, as far as normal law abiding citizens are concerned, it's only the males who have a questionable self constitution that are the victims....

If she is coming on to you for sex, and you're not related, make her day, I say....

Just make sure it's all recorded, so the jury can see what really went down when the opposite story is being told.

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Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:54 PM

FREMDFIRMA

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If she is coming on to you for sex, and you're not related, make her day, I say....

Just make sure it's all recorded, so the jury can see what really went down when the opposite story is being told.

What pisses me off is crap like that makes it harder for ACTUAL victims to get anywhere.
And that bit I just quoted - wellll, lets just same there's a chick out there who JUST ran afoul of exactly fekkin that, given that I am a skeptical, paranoid, cynical bastard and the notion of covertly recording consent would have *prior to the bullshit she pulled* come across as lunacy...

But oh NOW it makes such sense, oh yes.

Sad days when the question ain't whether you're paranoid, it's whether you're paranoid ENOUGH.

-Frem

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Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:21 PM

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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If she is coming on to you for sex, and you're not related, make her day, I say....

Just make sure it's all recorded, so the jury can see what really went down when the opposite story is being told.

What pisses me off is crap like that makes it harder for ACTUAL victims to get anywhere.
And that bit I just quoted - wellll, lets just same there's a chick out there who JUST ran afoul of exactly fekkin that, given that I am a skeptical, paranoid, cynical bastard and the notion of covertly recording consent would have *prior to the bullshit she pulled* come across as lunacy...

But oh NOW it makes such sense, oh yes.

Sad days when the question ain't whether you're paranoid, it's whether you're paranoid ENOUGH.

-Frem

Sorry Frem,

But that's the world we live in now....

What I said didn't negate her plea for help....

The fact that these pleas before her are questionable at best and downright lies at worst are what negate her getting help.

The fact that good men like my Dad have to pay child support and college for over 20 years after cheating on my mom, while all the deadbeats disappear and the rest of us just pay more taxes to support the illegitimate kids is what prevents her from getting the help she deserves.

Makes you wonder why they pick the targets that they do, right????

I know I'm preaching to the choir with you Frem, but I figured I'd spell it out for everyone else....

My old man was "middle class". Had the divorce never happened when I was 5 years old, we'd have probably grown up in a big house with a pool in the back. I was never "hungry" and the health insurance was awesome back in the 80's and 90's so I was dumb to that issue then too.

EVERYBODY wants a hand out today....

If you're hard up about your legit girl not getting a fair shake in the "rape" world Frem, I'd remind you that I'm just as equally as hard up about my brother who is one of the only people in the world to ever survive a brain hemorrhage and multiple massive strokes at 6 years old and somehow he can't get on SSD.

Sure, he's made a billion strides I was always proud of, but since he has ZERO ability now to work with anyone in a friendly manner, he's a liability to anyone who takes care of him and he can't hold a job.

The doctors said he'd never walk or talk again, when he was only 6 years old, but he told me "HI Jack..........." one night over the phone and my mom grabbed the phone crying and asked if I heard it.

If anyone thinks I hate the world though, he's got me beat in spades from every angle.....

Unlike me, he believes 100% in God and he believes that God hates him, so he hates God right back. That's how he lives his life

Can you imagine living with the knowledge that your brother both absolutely believes in God and absolutely hates God at the same time?

Even if you really and truly don't belive in God in that situation.....

It begs the question....

Where does that leave me in his eyes?????

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Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:52 PM

Quote 6ix: "My biggest problem with the "sex-offender" list is that even somebody who was
18 and slept with a 15 or 16 year old girl could be on the exact same list that some guy
who served 10 years for raping girls and putting their heads on pikes in his front lawn
would be on, and there's no distinction remarked in these databases...."

^ I believe that.

Guy 45 in the swimming pool playing "grabass" with a 14-yr-old girl. He: "WE were playing
grabass ..." Being an old bat with a dim view, I suspect he was playing grabass while she
was trying to get the hell away. Maybe not. No one called him on it at the time. I don't
condone his behavior, but I didn't see it.

Couple months go by. The girl complained to her mother who then pressed charges. He was
arrested; did he plea bargain? Final charges were "Lewd & lacivious conduct with a minor."
That's a felony. He: "There is no misdemeanor child molest." He did a year, sharing quar-
ters with sex deviants of all stripes including murderers. There was no distinction.

He has to keep his SO registration current.

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Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:06 PM

Hey Oon,

I don't know what "crabgrass" is, but under the right cirumstances, It sounds like as much fun as the "Jungle Juice" that ISU frat boys use to get girls so drunk they can't think while they're being plowed.....

Otherwise, I totally get your point.

AS much as I do everyting to protect myself, I a more a protector to people I care about. The ONLY time I've EVER testified against somebody was 8 years after my own stabbing and it was for a girl who was raped at a party.

As for "jury duty" I'm done, forever.....

I will never put somebody in jail again, because it only makes them a worse person.

I've been called to jury duty 5 times since then, and I never go....

If they drag me there I'll tell them what I told you...

I WILL NEVER GIVE A GUILTY VERDICT AND DELIVER AN OTHERWISE SAVABLE SOUL TO SATAN'S PLAYGROUND!!!!

If you or anyone here thinks I'm about BS on any other talking point I've ever said here....

Be sure of this....

If I'm EVER somehow forced into Jury duty, whoever is being tried will either go free from my charisma, or at the very least will go free because of a mistrial because I will never put them away.

Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
^ I believe that.

Guy 45 in the swimming pool playing "grabass" with a 14-yr-old girl. He: "WE were playing
grabass ..." Being an old bat with a dim view, I suspect he was playing grabass while she
was trying to get the hell away. Maybe not. No one called him on it at the time. I don't
condone his behavior, but I didn't see it.

Couple months go by. The girl complained to her mother who then pressed charges. He was
arrested; did he plea bargain? Final charges were "Lewd & lacivious conduct with a minor."
That's a felony. He: "There is no misdemeanor child molest." He did a year, sharing quar-
ters with sex deviants of all stripes including murderers. There was no distinction.

He has to keep his SO registration current.

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I am responsible for my own happiness.

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Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:30 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

Jack, I hope your brother can find some medicine, from the earth or regular, I don't care which, that helps him feel better, he sounds miserable and very difficult to care for. More is the pitty he is the way he is instead of being touched. Touched ones are sweet tempered and get looked after better because of it, they're more pleasant to be around. Obviously being normal, or quite stable, is preferable, but it would be better than this if he were one of the touched ones. We don't get to choose how things go, so thus I'm holding out for some good medicine to come along for him.

I agree that maybe there should be degrees of registration, since an 18 year old rutting with his 16 year old girlfriend isn't really awful like a guy who rapes girls and sticks their heads on pikes as mentioned before. Plus people make up being raped or molested all the time in order to get things, revenge included.

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

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Friday, May 25, 2012 4:56 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Quote:
it's a FACT that any judge or jury is going to automatically believe a woman or child when it comes to rape allegations or physical and/or emotional abuse.

Quote:
In the "protected" society we live in now, as far as normal law abiding citizens are concerned, it's only the males who have a questionable self constitution that are the victims....

If she is coming on to you for sex, and you're not related, make her day, I say....

Sorry, folks, your preconceptions leave me behind. While there are certainly some, the vast majority of women, in my opinion, wouldn't be willing to go through all the shame imposed on them by judgmental society, laying open of their entire life history (not to mention their sex history, in detail), public opinion, etc., it takes to pursue a false rape claim. I think we just HEAR about it so much, as opposed to those who are unquestionably guilty--such as serial rapists or rapists-murderers--that we get a skewed perception.

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FBI reports consistently put the number of "unfounded" rape accusations around 8%. However, "unfounded" is not synonymous with "false" allegation. The largest study, published in 2005, was based on 2,643 sexual assault cases and found 8% of false reports.

A study of the US, UK and New Zealand found

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Two conclusions can be drawn from this review of literature on the prevalence of false rape allegations. First, many of the studies of false allegations have adopted unreliable or untested research methodologies and, so we cannot discern with any degree of certainty the actual rate of false allegations. A key component in judging the reliability of research in this area relates to the criteria used to judge an allegation to be false. Some studies use entirely unreliable criteria, while others provide only limited information on how rates are measured. The second conclusion that can be drawn from the research is that the police continue to misapply the no- crime or unfounding criteria and in so doing it would appear that some officers have fixed views and expectations about how genuine rape victims should react to their victimisation. The qualitative research also suggests that some officers continue to exhibit an unjustified scepticism of rape complainants, while others interpret such things as lack of evidence or complaint withdrawal as ‘‘proof’’ of a false allegation. Such findings suggest that there are inadequacies in police awareness of the dynamics and impact of sexual victimisation and this further reinforces the importance of training and education. However, the exact extent to which police officers incorrectly label allegations as false is difficult to discern." Wiki

Truth is, we live in a "rape culture". Just this one example makes my point:

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Last night, the Hofstra University freshman who had accused five men of gang-raping her recanted her statement. The 18-year-old student, who had told police that the men had lured her into a dorm bathroom, tied her up, and raped her, admitted to the Nassau County District Attorney's office that the "incident" was, in fact, consensual. After being released from jail, where they had been held for nearly 24 hours, the four men cleared of the rape charges posed in a series of celebratory photographs, smiling, raising their hands in the air, and offering thumbs-up signs to the press. Overnight, the men turned from accused rapists to . . . four guys who had had consensual sex with a woman together. http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/17/false-rape-
accusations-and-rape-culture/

There folows the whole story, and at the end:

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Elan admits that even if the woman hadn't accused five men of raping her, she still would have "cheapened herself" by having sex with the men "willingly." Meanwhile, the four released men in the case carry no such group-sex stigma when they pose triumphantly outside the jailhouse doors. Why are people calling the accuser a whore instead of a liar?

There's much more about it in the story, if anyone's interested. Headlines after they were exonerated: "Victims Vs. Sluts: Hofstra’s False Rape", within which article is cited "In the piece, Peyser refers to the accuser as a "venal vixen"and a "whore." She then links her to "a string of high-profile rape-criers who found brief fame, sympathy and the prospect of riches by claiming the worst." and "Men's News Daily Editor Paul Elam writes that the accuser "cheapened herself by taking on five men willingly on a men’s room floor and lied about it later out of what little capacity for shame she had." On Urban Dictionary, "Hofstra" is now a synonym for "Someone who is infested with STD's"; "A slut/someone who sleeps around"; and "The act of being slutty." I would never dney that there are false rape claims, I maintain, however, that the vast majority of women wouldn't be willing to undergo the results of claiming rape, one reason so much rape goes unreported. It's been shown that many women won't report a rape out of shame and blaming themselves that they should have been able to stop it. While terribly egregious things happen because of false rape accusations, I don't think there is that much of it, and rape continues to be a serious problem in many countries.

As to child support, sorry but my response is "whiner". Jim and I paid not only a damned hefty part of our earnings in child support to his ex, we paid MORE under the table so she could go to nursing school. It left us with little; for a long time we lived in a camper behind our pizza parlor and only ate what we produced in the pizza parlor. It was damned tough times. But it was the right thing to do and we fought our way out of it and went on to good careers; Ann got her nursing degree, was able to provide a decent home for the kids (both of whom we eventually had custody for later on), and still works as a nurse, in her 60s. That so many assholes get away with avoiding child support doesn't have anything to do with anything except that they are assholes.

It goes both ways, too. Choey had a good job while her now-ex was a layabout. She got in a horrific car accident and has been unable to work full time since. She lost her home, was screwed out of what little was left when her mom died by her sister, and now lives with us. The court STILL charged her hefty child support, which she's still paying off years later, because she was too injured to care for the kids after the accident. The ex ended up making far more than her, but the court only changed the child-support payments slightly.

People get screwed. It's not the whole story, nor is it even the majority of the story, as I see it.

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Friday, May 25, 2012 4:27 PM

Thanks Riona,

I do believe that he's found help with my Dad, which I really believe is the medicine he needs.

I know my step-mom hates having him around now, but she realizes that my old man is the only reason both of her kids went to prestigious colleges for free and either gradutated/or are graduating was because of him.

I really hate that my Dad hates politics as much as I do....

He'd be such a great grass-roots shepherd to get this country back on track.

That's the only way we'll ever do it....

A lot of REAL low-level politicians demanding the "overthrow" of the BS "two-party" single-party we live with today on a national scale.

As far as the "RAPE" issue, thanks for agreeing. A few years difference when parents and/or politicians with an agenda should never ruin somebody's life.

The two funniest things to me in this movie is A) She seduces him again after they KNOW they shouldn't have sex for the media implications and B) when the white-trash, 30 year old + fugly guy she was writing love letters to was at the hospital with her ready to take care of her kid with her, nobody said a damn thing about that. They were all just focused on this 18 year old dude because of the media....

Quote:
Originally posted by RionaEire:
Jack, I hope your brother can find some medicine, from the earth or regular, I don't care which, that helps him feel better, he sounds miserable and very difficult to care for. More is the pitty he is the way he is instead of being touched. Touched ones are sweet tempered and get looked after better because of it, they're more pleasant to be around. Obviously being normal, or quite stable, is preferable, but it would be better than this if he were one of the touched ones. We don't get to choose how things go, so thus I'm holding out for some good medicine to come along for him.

I agree that maybe there should be degrees of registration, since an 18 year old rutting with his 16 year old girlfriend isn't really awful like a guy who rapes girls and sticks their heads on pikes as mentioned before. Plus people make up being raped or molested all the time in order to get things, revenge included.

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

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Friday, May 25, 2012 4:54 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
"Everything She Said.

Sorry Niki,

We don't live in a Rape culture.

Even worse, we live in a culture where the maturing men that are "haves" find it much more easy and agreeable to just stay at home and play video games and watch internet porn rather than deal with "real world issues".

Even in my neighborhood, I rarely see any 14+ white guys walking home with the cute white girls. It's always the black kids who aren't rushing home to collect every bent-tin can in Fallout. Not to sound racist, but without internet porn and games, the best they have to look forward to after school besides the girls is shooting some hoops in the garage otherwise.

Just like Heavy Metal was the aprhodesiac for teen girls in the 80's, black dominance has become their new calling. The truly smart and uber sexy will always call their own shots, but when 99% of white males would rather stay at home playing PS3 and jacking off to fetish porn today, who can fault the girls?

Enjoy the supposedly big black shaft while it is still interested...

In my opinion, Porn and the occasional high priced call girl is much more worth the money in the long run.

In the end, I always get what I want and need, and I don't owe anyone a dime on credit....

Can't buy me love....

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Friday, May 25, 2012 5:01 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
"Everything She Said.

Sorry Niki,

We don't live in a Rape culture.

Even worse, we live in a culture where the maturing men that are "haves" find it much more easy and agreeable to just stay at home and play video games and watch internet porn rather than deal with "real world issues".

Even in my neighborhood, I rarely see any 14+ white guys walking home with the cute white girls. It's always the black kids who aren't rushing home to collect every bent-tin can in Fallout. Not to sound racist, but without internet porn and games, the best they have to look forward to after school besides the girls is shooting some hoops in the garage otherwise.

Just like Heavy Metal was the aprhodesiac for teen girls in the 80's, black dominance has become their new calling. The truly smart and uber sexy will always call their own shots, but when 99% of white males would rather stay at home playing PS3 and jacking off to fetish porn today, who can fault the girls?

Enjoy the supposedly big black shaft while it is still interested...

In my opinion, Porn and the occasional high priced call girl is much more worth the money in the long run.

In the end, I always get what I want and need, and I don't owe anyone a dime on credit....

Can't buy me love....

So you complain that white boys have nothing to offer a woman, and then you set about proving that you yourself are your own best proof.

Congratulations. You've proven yourself a jackass not worth any woman's time!

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Friday, May 25, 2012 5:18 PM

Whatever dude....

Read it however you want and gloss over the pertinent points.....

Just like a Leftie...

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Friday, May 25, 2012 5:29 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Whatever dude....

Read it however you want and gloss over the pertinent points.....

Just like a Leftie...

Uh-huh. Meanwhile, just stay at home and jerk off to your video games, and keep complaining about the black guys making time with all the real girls while you're calling up hookers.

Just like a tea-bagger.

Oh, and don't forget to tell your hooker about how you own your house, because they never get tired of that shit...

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Friday, May 25, 2012 5:41 PM

As I know you hate me mention, I still own my house free and clear with over 10k cash to back it up and a 795 credit score....

Judge how you want to man.....

I'm no closeted priest or corrupt politician on either side.

I'm just a guy making the system work for me, and I'm happy about it.

Don't be a hater...

EDITED TO ADD:

Oh yeah, and I also treat myself twice a year to a multi-hour session with girls so hot that your wife would love to make out with her.

It's all about the scale man.......

I don't judge your choice, so I assume you don't judge mine.

I live a life where twice a year my "vacation" is a 4 hour session with one of the most beautiful 19 year olds that God ever made.

In the meantime I take care of Me, Myself and I.

Any extra money has often gone to temporary loans to good friends, or permanent stock in family business....

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Friday, May 25, 2012 5:47 PM

For best results, I have changed the title, "Sexist Racist Conviction Overturned -- Lately"
of this thread to "Banks' Conviction Overturned -- Late."

I didn't know I could do that!

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I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it. ~Charles R Swindoll

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Friday, May 25, 2012 6:04 PM

BYTEMITE

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I WILL NEVER GIVE A GUILTY VERDICT

Right on.

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Monday, May 28, 2012 8:23 AM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

You whinge a lot about dark skinned guys having girlfriends and how light skinned guys are too lazy to get them, but you, by your own admission, have no interest in remodying what you see as a problem. So why are you whinging about it if it doesn't really bother you?

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

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Monday, May 28, 2012 9:23 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

My gawd, those last few quotes of Jack's are so gross and disgusting--and untrue!--that they're not worth rebutting. They are simply assinine. As Riona says, they reflect him and his mentality, nothing more. They also have no basis in fact and are completely over the top. I wonder what world he lives in? No, wait, I don't...he's made it patently clear.

I wonder why bars are so full of men looking to pick up women, when supposedly they're all at home jacking off and playing video games? My mind is just so boggled by the absurdity of what he wrote, it's not worth taking the time to prove him wrong...which would be so easy... Pure insanity!

I, too, am sick to death of the "I own my own home" bit. I guess it's some kind of brag or something; it speaks to nothing so much as his need for others to know the fact, which must make it his major definition of what makes a person worthwhile. Having shown how UNworthwhile he is as a human and a male, I think he's got some things wrong.

If he wanta, we can play tit for tat every time he throws that out. We own OUR own home outright, too, and have something like $200,000 in our retirement accounts, which we don't touch. We live cheaply and hope it lasts. It's not enough to keep us comfortable for the amount of time we will probably live, but hopefully it'll keep us alive. And it has NO relationship to what kind of people we are! Bragging about it repeatedly merely shows his own insecurities and judgments, nothing more.

Some people are really sad...and really "out there"! And sick, in the belief that renting women is so preferable to an actual relationship! Wow. Speaks volumes...

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Monday, May 28, 2012 10:04 AM