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I blame Obama.

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I bet Eric Holder personally saw to it that the guns used were walked into the city, to be used by gang members.

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I bet Eric Holder personally saw to it that the guns used were walked into the city, to be used by gang members.

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How much? How much do you want to bet?


Although if it were true, does that mean Wayne La Pierre and the NRA will get up out of Holder's ass for a couple seconds, since he's obviously so pro-gun?

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I bet Eric Holder personally saw to it that the guns used were walked into the city, to be used by gang members.

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How much? How much do you want to bet?


Although if it were true, does that mean Wayne La Pierre and the NRA will get up out of Holder's ass for a couple seconds, since he's obviously so pro-gun?

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Kwicko, you have a problem identifying the enemy. Who has been an accessory to murder, La Pierre or Holder?

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How does walking over 1,000 guns into Mexico illegally, two of which were then used to kill a border patrol agent, even remotely related to legal face to face gun sales?

Your wheel is still turning but the hamster is dead.

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Why are you worried about Wayne ? He's not the one who is facing Contempt of Congress charges, or who lied about what he knew concerning Fast and Furious.

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How does walking over 1,000 guns into Mexico illegally, two of which were then used to kill a border patrol agent, even remotely related to legal face to face gun sales?

Your wheel is still turning but the hamster is dead.

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I'm pretty sure Geezer will inform you that not a single one of those guns ever jumped up and killed anyone all by themselves.

Are you saying we should always hold the person who sold the gun in the first place responsible for every body produced by that gun?

Huh. And here I thought you righties were AGAINST gun control. I use the two best methods of gun control yet found: A steady hand, and hitting what I aim at. ;)

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I'm pretty sure Geezer will inform you that not a single one of those guns ever jumped up and killed anyone all by themselves.

Are you saying we should always hold the person who sold the gun in the first place responsible for every body produced by that gun?

Huh. And here I thought you righties were AGAINST gun control. I use the two best methods of gun control yet found: A steady hand, and hitting what I aim at. ;)

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Yep, just ol' Twito moving the goalposts. I said the walked guns WERE USED. As in; "used by the perpetrator".

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Don't move the goalposts, Twito. Answer the question. How is gunwalking more than 1,000 guns anything like legal face to face sales? And when you're done answer that question, answer this one; How does the department of justice equate walking guns into Mexico as enforcing the law?

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WASHINGTON — Congressional investigators probing the controversial "Fast and Furious" anti-gun-trafficking operation on the border with Mexico believe at least six Mexican drug cartel figures involved in gun smuggling also were paid FBI informants, officials said Saturday.

The investigators have asked the FBI and the Drug Enforcement Administration for details about the alleged informants, as well as why agents at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which ran the Fast and Furious operation, were not told about them.

The development raises further doubts about the now-shuttered program, which was created in November 2009 in an effort to track guns across the border and unravel the cartels' gun-smuggling networks.

The gun tracing largely failed, however, and hundreds of weapons purchased in U.S. shops later were found at crime scenes in Mexico.

The scandal has angered Mexican officials and some members of Congress. Investigators say nearly 2,500 guns were allowed to flow illegally into Mexico under the ATF program, fueling the drug violence ravaging that country and leading to the shooting death of a U.S. border agent.

In a letter to FBI Director Robert Mueller, the investigators asked why U.S. taxpayers' money apparently was paid to Mexican cartel members who have terrorized the border region for years in their efforts to smuggle drugs into this country, and to ship U.S. firearms into Mexico...

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...In a report last month, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., who chairs the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, and ranking Senate Judiciary Committee member Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, blasted the Justice Department. They said the operation yielded only low-level prosecutions and put countless people at risk.

In a statement Friday, Issa singled out Burke's office.

"As the U.S. attorney, Dennis Burke has a responsibility for decisions that have created an ongoing public-safety hazard, endangered the criminal prosecutions of firearms traffickers, and been linked to deaths on both sides of the border," he said.

"While he wasn't the most senior Justice Department official who knew about Fast and Furious, it certainly wouldn't have continued had he objected."

Issa and Grassley pointed to e-mails and other records that indicate high-level Justice Department officials, including ATF Director Ken Melson, were aware that the guns were crossing the border. The lawmakers questioned ATF claims that agents didn't knowingly allow guns into Mexico.

Three Phoenix ATF agents testified in Issa's committee last month that they were ordered by supervisors to encourage gun-store owners to make sales and allow straw purchasers to move the weapons without interdiction.

Agents say they repeatedly warned supervisors that the guns were being used in crimes in Mexico and spoke of their fear that they would sooner or later be used against American citizens.

Their story is bolstered by some Arizona gun-store owners.

One owner, who spoke to The Arizona Republic on condition of anonymity because he feared reprisals by the ATF, said agents not only encouraged his employees to knowingly sell guns to suspicious buyers but in one case asked the owner to break a strict policy limiting the number of guns a single person can buy in a day.

"(Agents) would always say, 'As long as they are doing nothing illegal, make the sale,' " the Scottsdale gun store owner said. "That's how they covered themselves."

E-mails released by Issa's office show one unidentified gun-store owner told the ATF he had concerns about the volume of weapons the owner was selling as part of the operation and whether any would end up in Mexico.

"I understand that the frequency with which some individuals under investigation by our office have been purchasing firearms from your business has caused concerns for you," ATF Supervisor John Voth wrote to the owner in April 2010, adding, "Just know that we cannot instruct you on how to run your business, but your continued cooperation with our office has greatly aided the investigation so far."

The owner raised concerns again in June.

"I am looking for a bit of reassurance that the guns are not getting south or in the wrong hands," the owner wrote, adding that he wanted to assist but didn't want to put Border Patrol agents' lives at risk...

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WASHINGTON – Senator Chuck Grassley today said that Federal Firearms Licensees also had concerns with supplying guns to known straw purchasers, but were assured by officials with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) that the Bureau was “continually monitoring these suspects.”

In January, Grassley began questioning the ATF policy that allowed guns to walk across the Mexican border after whistleblowers from within the ATF came to him to express dismay and concern about the ill-advised policy. These whistleblowers had warned their higher-ups that the strategy would end up getting someone killed. Their prophecy may have come true when Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was killed in a gunfight with suspected cartel members on December 14, 2010.

“The Justice Department’s unwillingness to be forthcoming is troubling, and the more we learn from whistleblowers, the more it looks like the department will end up with egg on its face,” Grassley said. “Whistleblowers are still coming forward with more information disproving the department’s only response to my inquiries.”

In a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder, Grassley provides the Attorney General with emails between ATF officials and a Federal Firearms Licensee in Arizona. These emails demonstrate that ATF instructed gun dealers to engage in suspicious sales despite the dealer’s concerns.

In one email, the dealer raises for a third time with an ATF supervisor his concerns about how the case is being handled.

“I shared my concerns with you guys that I wanted to make sure that none of the firearms that were sold per our conversation with you and various ATF agents could or would ever end up south of the border and in the hands of the bad guys…I want to help ATF with its investigation, but not at the risk of agents’ safety because I have some very close friends that are U.S. border patrol agents in southern Arizona,” the dealer wrote to ATF Supervisor David Voth.

Grassley said the government put the firearms dealers in a completely unfair position. “On the one hand, these gun dealers rely upon the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms for their license to even be able to be in business. So, of course, these agents (Federal Firearms Licensees) want to cooperate with the government. When you have got this big club hanging over your head, will you be licensed or not licensed. On the other hand, the government asks these gun dealers to keep selling to the bad guys even after the dealers warned that it might end in tragedy,” Grassley said.

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Six months ago, several agents with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives stood before Congress to testify about the details of a U.S. government program that armed Mexico's largest drug cartel with thousands of assault rifles.

The administration denied it at the time and questioned the agents' integrity. The men were nervous and scared. They said they feared for their careers, their reputation and their families.

"Any attempt to retaliate against them for their testimony today would be unfair, unwise and unlawful," Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, warned the Department of Justice.

He and Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., began an investigation to determine who authorized "Operation Fast and Furious" and aimed to hold accountable those responsible for a plan that helped known criminals run guns across the border in violation of U.S. and international law.

And while President Obama has said the operation was a mistake and that "people who screwed up will be held accountable," the record so far does not bear that out. Those in charge of the botched operation have been reassigned or promoted, their pensions intact. But many of those who blew the whistle face isolation, retaliation and transfer.

Here's what has happened to the managers of the operation:

-- Acting ATF Chief Ken Melson, who oversaw the operation, is now an adviser in the Office of Legal Affairs. He remains in ATF's Washington, D.C., headquarters.

-- Acting Deputy Director Billy Hoover, who knew his agency was walking guns and demanded an "exit strategy" just five months into the program, is now the special agent in charge of the D.C. office. He, too, did not have to relocate.

-- Deputy Director for Field Operations William McMahon received detailed briefings about the illegal operation and later admitted he shares "responsibility for mistakes that were made.” Yet, he also stays in D.C., ironically as the No. 2 man at the ATF's Office of Internal Affairs.

-- Special Agent in Charge of Phoenix Bill Newell, the man most responsible for directly overseeing Fast and Furious, was promoted to the Office of Management in Washington.

-- Phoenix Deputy Chief George Gillette was also promoted to Washington as ATF's liaison to the U.S. Marshal's Service.

-- Group Supervisor David Voth managed Fast and Furious on a day-to-day basis and repeatedly stopped field agents from interdicting weapons headed to the border, according to congressional testimony. ATF boosted Voth to chief of the ATF Tobacco Division, where he now supervises more employees in Washington than he ever did in Phoenix.

An ATF spokesman in Washington says the key players did not receive promotions, but transfers.

Special Agent Jay Dobyns, who is suing the agency for breach of contract, is skeptical.

"These guys are protected. They're insulated. They're all part of a club," Dobyns said, alleging that the ATF has a history of retaliating against its own who speak up.

"They risk everything, knowing that everything they worked for, their careers, their reputations, their finances, are all going to be ruined."

Case in point, he said, is field agent John Dodson. Dodson uprooted his family from Virginia in 2010 to join a new elite anti-gun trafficking group in Phoenix, known as Group 7. Dodson quickly witnessed what was wrong and loudly voiced his objections to Voth and Newell.

Management reassigned Dodson to weekend duty and the wire room, a relatively boring job monitoring telephone traffic and subordinate to junior agents. Soon thereafter, Dodson was temporarily assigned to another group for an additional menial assignment, until ultimately sent to an FBI Task Force, completely away from the ATF, even turning off his ATF building access pass.

Dodson continued to challenge Voth, saying the operation was killing people in Mexico and suggested it was only a matter of time before a "border agent or sheriff's deputy" would be killed by one of the guns they let go.

"If you're going to make an omelet, you've got to scramble some eggs," Voth replied, according to a congressional report.

Voth moved Dodson out of Group 7 shortly before Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was shot by weapons traced to Fast and Furious. Newell, Gillette and Voth began to cover up their tracks. According to an e-mail 24 hours after Terry was shot, Voth wrote:

"We are charging Avila (Jaime Avila bought the alleged murder weapons) with a stand-alone June 2010 firearms purchase. This way we do not divulge our current case (Fast and Furious) or the Border Patrol shooting case."

"Great job," Newell replied.

Dodson first complained internally to the ATF Office of Chief Counsel and Ethics Section, OIG, Office of Special Counsel, and Office of Professional Responsibility. They were unresponsive. Dodson was then contacted by congressional investigators, who began their own investigation.

Because of Dodson, the Terry family hopes to hear the truth about what happened to their son and the American public learned that senior Obama administration officials did nothing to stop guns from reaching an insurgency south of the border.

And what did Dodson get for telling the truth? In Phoenix he was isolated, marginalized and referred to as a "nut job," "wing-nut" and "disgruntled," according to sources.

In Washington, ATF command ordered that "Contact with Dodson was detrimental to any ATF career."

Newell's Attorney told Fox News that all of this was because "Dodson didn't want to work weekends."

Dennis Burke, the Arizona U.S. attorney who resigned in the wake of the investigation, admitted he leaked privacy-protected documents that discredited Dodson. The head of legislative affairs for the Department of Justice, Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich, indirectly called Dodson a liar, telling senators the ATF "never intentionally allowed guns" to walk, or to lose sight or control of the weapons.

So what happened to Dodson and the other whistleblowers?

"The only people who have been damaged from Fast and Furious, short of the obvious victims, are the people who tried to tell truth and blew the whistle," Dobyns said.

Dodson was told he was toxic and could no longer work in Phoenix. With sole custody of two teenagers and under water on his house mortgage, Dodson found himself with no place to be and nowhere to go.

A supervisor suggested he'd be treated fairly at an office in South Carolina. Wanting to keep his job, protect his pension and pay the mortgage, Dodson had no other choice. He and his family now live in a small apartment, facing financial troubles, still labeled persona non grata by the very agency he carries a badge for, and regularly assaulted by leaks from "ATF sources at headquarters."

Dodson has tried to remain out of the public eye, has not filed suit and says only that he wishes to return to his work as an ATF agent.

As for the others:

-- Agent Larry Alt took a transfer to Florida and has unresolved retaliation claims against the ATF.

-- Agent Pete Forcelli was demoted to a desk job. Forcelli is a respected investigator, with years as a detective with the New York City Police Department. He has requested an internal investigation to address the retaliation against him.

-- Agent James Casa also took a transfer to Florida.

-- Agent Carlos Canino, once the deputy attache in Mexico City, was moved to Tucson.

-- Agent Jose Wall, formerly assigned to Tijuana, was moved to Phoenix.

-- Agent Darren Gil, formerly the attache to Mexico, retired.

Sources say the agents are in a kind of purgatory. As whistleblowers, they can't be fired. The agency can try, but it would be messy. On the other hand, they can be transferred but face the problems of relocating on their own.

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I take it you've never heard of "Operation Wide Receiver"?

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I take it you've never heard of "Operation Wide Receiver"?

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Probably not concerned because no guns were 'walked over' and then used to kill a govt agent, as well as a couple of hundred other Mexican civilians.

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No guns were "walked over"? Well, except for those three hundred or more, right? ;)

How do you KNOW that no government agents were killed? How do you KNOW that no Mexican civilians were killed?

Simple answer: You don't. You're just pulling more "facts" out of your ass again. You and your other Troll are getting pretty good at it.



For the record, Rappy and Troll, are you saying you're ALWAYS against our government arming gangs and thugs? Or are you just against Democrats doing it? (I strongly suspect the latter, because neither of you has had a disparaging word to say about Bush's identical program, but I eagerly await your efforts to prove me wrong on that.)









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Fast and Furious was a false flag operation to shame Americans into thinking that our "lax" gun laws were causing death and havoc on Mexican soil. Yeah, didn't work so well.

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And there you have it. The spew that little Rappy believes, exposed for what it is.

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How is gunwalking more than 1,000 guns anything like legal face to face sales? And when you're done answering that question, answer this one; How does the department of justice equate walking guns into Mexico as enforcing the law?

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How do you equate selling guns at gun shows to the Justice Department "walking guns into Mexico"? You've never shown any evidence for the accusations you've made. You can't show me that the Justice Department itself personally walked guns across the border into Mexico as you've claimed, can you?

Answer the questions or just admit you are an empty windbag. The "trollingest troll on the internet" is also the most brainless!


If you'd like to have a debate on the issue of sting operations like this, that's a discussion we can have. If you'd like somebody to argue with you based solely on your own rules and your own "facts", then you're barking up the wrong Mike. Sorry, but you'll just have to keep playing with yourself.

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Niiiice. Refuse to back up your point or show evidence until Mike defends a point he didn't make in the first place.

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How do you equate selling guns at gun shows to the Justice Department "walking guns into Mexico"? You've never shown any evidence for the accusations you've made. You can't show me that the Justice Department itself personally walked guns across the border into Mexico as you've claimed, can you?

Answer the questions or just admit you are an empty windbag. The "trollingest troll on the internet" is also the most brainless!


If you'd like to have a debate on the issue of sting operations like this, that's a discussion we can have. If you'd like somebody to argue with you based solely on your own rules and your own "facts", then you're barking up the wrong Mike. Sorry, but you'll just have to keep playing with yourself.

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Gun show sales between private individuals are administered under state laws. In some states face to face sales are legal and require no paperwork (such as in Delaware). In some states private sales are held to the same standard of background checking and an FFL must be involved. In other states the transfer must take place at the police department. An FFL license holder selling at a gun show is still required under federal law to perform a background check. Depending on the state that can be an instant check (again, using Delaware as an example) or it can be up to a ten day wait. There is no such thing as a "gun show loophole".

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Niiiice. Refuse to back up your point or show evidence until Mike defends a point he didn't make in the first place.

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Tell me why anyone is supposed to take advice on posting from a member who's only purpose is to stroke Kwicko's ego?

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Niiiice. Refuse to back up your point or show evidence until Mike defends a point he didn't make in the first place.

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Tell me why anyone is supposed to take advice on posting from a member who's only purpose is to stroke Kwicko's ego?

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How is gunwalking more than 1,000 guns anything like legal face to face sales? And when you're done answering that question, answer this one; How does the department of justice equate walking guns into Mexico as enforcing the law?

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How do you equate selling guns at gun shows to the Justice Department "walking guns into Mexico"? You've never shown any evidence for the accusations you've made. You can't show me that the Justice Department itself personally walked guns across the border into Mexico as you've claimed, can you?

Answer the questions or just admit you are an empty windbag. The "trollingest troll on the internet" is also the most brainless!


If you'd like to have a debate on the issue of sting operations like this, that's a discussion we can have. If you'd like somebody to argue with you based solely on your own rules and your own "facts", then you're barking up the wrong Mike. Sorry, but you'll just have to keep playing with yourself.

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Gun show sales between private individuals are administered under state laws. In some states face to face sales are legal and require no paperwork (such as in Delaware). In some states private sales are held to the same standard of background checking and an FFL must be involved. In other states the transfer must take place at the police department. An FFL license holder selling at a gun show is still required under federal law to perform a background check. Depending on the state that can be an instant check (again, using Delaware as an example) or it can be up to a ten day wait. There is no such thing as a "gun show loophole".

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BZZZZT! Wrong answer. In Texas, I can sell - AT A GUN SHOW - a gun to another individual WITHOUT any background check necessary. I'm not an FFL license holder or dealer, by the way. So there's the gun show loophole you claim does not exist.

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The ATF, at the direction of the DOJ, told FFL holders to NOT investigate suspected straw man purchases and allowed those illegal purchasers to transport the guns across the border into Mexico, as evidenced by guns purchased under these exemptions being found at Mexican crime scenes. They also instructed FFL holders to disregard limits on multiple gun purchases at the same time.

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So you say. You keep assuming facts not in evidence, and refusing to show evidence to back those claims. So according to you, since I've asked multiple times and you've dodged answering every single time, you are now a coward, and proven to be a coward, right?

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So, face to face sales at gun shows, legal. Fast and Furious violated at least 3 firearms purchase and transportation laws on multiple occasions. They're not equal at all.

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In November 2009, the Phoenix office's Group VII, which would be the lead investigative group in Fast and Furious, began to follow a prolific gun trafficker. He had bought 34 firearms in 24 days, and he and his associates bought 212 more in the next month. The case soon grew to over two dozen straw purchasers, the most prolific of which would ultimately buy more than 600 weapons.[3][5][31]

The tactic of letting guns walk, rather than interdicting them and arresting the buyers, led to controversy within the ATF.[5][32] As the case continued, several members of Group VII, including John Dodson and Olindo Casa, became increasingly upset at the tactic of allowing guns to walk. Their standard Project Gunrunner training was to follow the straw purchasers to the hand-off to the cartel buyers, then arrest both parties and seize the guns. They watched guns being bought illegally and stashed on a daily basis, while their supervisors, including David Voth and Hope MacAllister, prevented the agents from intervening.[3]

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The National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 17,000 of the agency’s non-supervisory agents, called for the resignation Monday of Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. for his role in the botched “Fast and Furious” gunrunning operation that resulted in the death of a U.S. Border Patrol agent.

Council President George E. McCubbin III, a 25-year Border Patrol veteran himself, described Mr. Holder’s actions in the case as “a slap in the face to all Border Patrol agents who serve this country,” adding that the attorney general has shown “an utter failure of leadership at the highest levels of government.”

Two semi-automatic AK-47 assault weapons found at the scene of the Dec. 15, 2010, killing of Border Patrol Agent Brian A. Terry were traced by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to “straw buyers” who bought the weapons as part of the Fast and Furious investigation.

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