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You mean there's more than one religion?

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Friday, July 6, 2012 9:52 AM

CANTTAKESKY


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In Louisiana, Republican Governor Bobby Jindal pushed for a voucher program that would allow state funds to be used to pay for religious schools. It’s unconstitutional, it’s a way to use taxpayer money to fund someone’s faith, and it was a bad idea to begin with.

But it passed.

Now, one of the state legislators, Rep. Valarie Hodges (R-Watson), just made a shocking discovery, though: Christianity isn’t the only religion!


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Friday, July 6, 2012 1:06 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Oh don't EEEEEEEEEEEven get me started....
State sanctioned religion is a serious pet peeve of mine, and this laptop will not survive my ire should I get on a rant about it.

-F

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Friday, July 6, 2012 1:33 PM

CANTTAKESKY


Rant! Rant! Rant!

I want to hear a good FremRant about this.

-----
So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
is all the sad world needs.
- Ella Wheeler Wilcox, poet (1850-1919)

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Friday, July 6, 2012 2:11 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Imagine there's no heaven. It's easy if you try.


" We're all just folk. " - Mal

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Friday, July 6, 2012 3:23 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I thoroughly enjoy it when ill-conceived laws bite their authors and supporters in the posterior.

--Anthony



Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

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Saturday, July 7, 2012 2:33 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
Hello,

I thoroughly enjoy it when ill-conceived laws bite their authors and supporters in the posterior.

--Anthony



Note to Self:

Raptor is pretty much always right. And by 'right', I mean correct, accurate and true in how he sees the world.




So, vouchers are an ill-conceived idea ? Letting the individuals decide on how they want to spend their educational dollars isn't a good idea?

Huh.

" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Saturday, July 7, 2012 2:51 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
Hello,

I thoroughly enjoy it when ill-conceived laws bite their authors and supporters in the posterior.

--Anthony




So, vouchers are an ill-conceived idea ? Letting the individuals decide on how they want to spend their educational dollars isn't a good idea?





Do you support the use of vouchers to send children to Islamic madrassas?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Saturday, July 7, 2012 3:03 AM

WHOZIT


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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

Oh don't EEEEEEEEEEEven get me started....
State sanctioned religion is a serious pet peeve of mine, and this laptop will not survive my ire should I get on a rant about it.

-F



Even though you libs pray to Obama and treat him as your God?

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Saturday, July 7, 2012 5:46 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Letting the individuals decide on how they want to spend their educational dollars isn't a good idea?



Educational TAX dollars. No, it's not--if it allows TAX dollars to support religious education.

-----

So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
is all the sad world needs.
- Ella Wheeler Wilcox, poet (1850-1919)

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Saturday, July 7, 2012 6:02 AM

FIVVER


So let me understand. When it comes to being forced to provide procedures that their religion finds objectionable (birth control) in their employee's insurance they are secular institutions and subject to the law. Now when it comes to accepting educational vouchers you're saying that they are religious institutions and this violates the constitution. Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense.

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Saturday, July 7, 2012 6:13 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Do you support the use of vouchers to send children to Islamic madrassas?
Did I just hear the door slam behind rappy as he bolted from this thread?

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Saturday, July 7, 2012 6:27 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


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Educational TAX dollars. No, it's not--if it allows TAX dollars to support religious education.


Hello,

I find it all to be a delicious irony. Finding themselves unable to fully transform public schools into Christian schools, these so-called conservatives found a way to finance Christian schools and make it affordable to send their children there.

This was the ill conception. It was not conceived as a means to allow free choice. It was conceived as a means to support Christian education.

It becomes glaringly obvious that 'freedom' was not the motivating factor when one sees the alarm expressed that people might freely choose non-Christian religious education.

If the law had been conceived with an eye towards freedom, the GOP would rejoice at its intended outcome: That people enjoy their diverse freedom of choice in all its forms.

No, it was a law designed to finance religion, but only their religion. An ill-conceived law with unintended consequences- all religious schools may benefit. Ooops.

These so-called conservatives are lovers of freedom- but only the freedom to choose as they prefer.

--Anthony






Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

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Saturday, July 7, 2012 6:29 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Amen, Anthony. You nailed it.


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Saturday, July 7, 2012 9:16 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by canttakesky:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Letting the individuals decide on how they want to spend their educational dollars isn't a good idea?



Educational TAX dollars. No, it's not--if it allows TAX dollars to support religious education.



The religion of big govt, Christianity, Judaism, or which ever... it should be up to the individual.


" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Saturday, July 7, 2012 12:00 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by fivver:
So let me understand. When it comes to being forced to provide procedures that their religion finds objectionable (birth control) in their employee's insurance they are secular institutions and subject to the law. Now when it comes to accepting educational vouchers you're saying that they are religious institutions and this violates the constitution. Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense.




Actually, THEY say they are religious institutions - that's why they're against having their insurance cover birth control.

Try to keep up.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Saturday, July 7, 2012 12:03 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by canttakesky:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Letting the individuals decide on how they want to spend their educational dollars isn't a good idea?



Educational TAX dollars. No, it's not--if it allows TAX dollars to support religious education.



The religion of big govt, Christianity, Judaism, or which ever... it should be up to the individual.





It is. You are not required to send your children to public schools. You are free to send them to religious schools. You are just not free to demand that I pay for it.

But hey, maybe they can use some education funding to help build that non-mosque that's not at Ground Zero! If that's their choice, of course. You'd support that, right?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Saturday, July 7, 2012 12:04 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
Quote:

Educational TAX dollars. No, it's not--if it allows TAX dollars to support religious education.


Hello,

I find it all to be a delicious irony. Finding themselves unable to fully transform public schools into Christian schools, these so-called conservatives found a way to finance Christian schools and make it affordable to send their children there.

This was the ill conception. It was not conceived as a means to allow free choice. It was conceived as a means to support Christian education.

It becomes glaringly obvious that 'freedom' was not the motivating factor when one sees the alarm expressed that people might freely choose non-Christian religious education.

If the law had been conceived with an eye towards freedom, the GOP would rejoice at its intended outcome: That people enjoy their diverse freedom of choice in all its forms.

No, it was a law designed to finance religion, but only their religion. An ill-conceived law with unintended consequences- all religious schools may benefit. Ooops.

These so-called conservatives are lovers of freedom- but only the freedom to choose as they prefer.

--Anthony






Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz




Perfect. Thank you.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Monday, July 9, 2012 2:54 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


This doesn't seem like a good idea, private schools are just that, private, meaning the government doesn't pay for them.

My personal issue with private schools is that they usually don't take kids with disabilities because they can't afford to. So on a personal level I don't support private school, as in I would never send my imaginary children there (lets hope I don't ever have any real children). But I support their right to exist and have the coriculum they see fit, as long as kids pass the tests necessary etc. that their public school counterparts must pass.

So I have mixed feelings about private schools.

I have Kathy Bates on speed dial, mwa ha ha ha (in exaggeratedly evil voice)

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

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