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Originally posted by Kwicko:
You really should try building a business all by yourself, with no customers, no roads, no supply routes, and no employees.

I bet you'd be awesome at it.

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Hee, hee, HEE!

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Originally posted by Storymark:



"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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This one is especially relevant, since Rappy seems to think that one person can build a whole company all by himself with no help from anyone at all... but then he isn't the one running it or having any say at all in what it does, and bears absolutely no responsibility for anything having to do with the company that he built and is sole owner of!

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Leave it to Kwickie try to completely change the issue, by posting lie after lie after lie...

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This one is especially relevant, since Rappy seems to think that one person can build a whole company all by himself with no help from anyone at all... but then he isn't the one running it or having any say at all in what it does, and bears absolutely no responsibility for anything having to do with the company that he built and is sole owner of!

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One person CAN build a company all by himself. Happens every damn day. But what you're talking about and what it has to do w/ Bain Capital are two entirely different issues. No real point in even discussing it, if your intent is to deceive and lie about such things. Which clearly it is.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Name one. Show me one company that one person built with no help from public roads, utilities, fire & police, no employees, no customers, etc.

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Dear Ruler:

First, let me say how thrilled I am that you went off-teleprompter last week. This “If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen” thing was just wonderful. Now I know how Chris Matthews felt.
Oh .. I know. Your handlers weren’t all that thrilled with your amazing screw-up, and, frankly, they have been worried this day was coming for a long time. They know how you feel about the private sector. They know of your antipathy toward free enterprise and those evil small businessmen out there who are not likely to support your move to a government centrally-controlled economy. They had hoped to keep your true feelings in check with those teleprompters … but nooooooooo … you just had to improvise, didn’t you? You just had to wander off the tightly-controlled rhetorical reservation. Well, thank you. You certainly didn’t gain any significant voter support with that asinine utterance, but you most certainly did lose some.

Now we’re having fun watching and listening to your sycophants trying to defend your “somebody else made that happen” line. Somehow they have to make your blunder sound marginally reasonable. Apparently they’ve had a meeting somewhere, because they’re all running with pretty much the same message. It was the government that built the roads those trucks travel on to bring stuff to your business for you to sell. It was the government that built those utility systems that keep your offices cool and the water clean. They really love that quote from Henry Ford about not being able to build his cars if the government had not built those roads.

Well guess what, Dear Ruler. We built that stuff too. Not government --- the private sector – America’s evil private businesses.

Get in Marine One, Obama, and fly off to visit a road construction project. Look at those graders, rollers and the machines that lay the asphalt. See those logos on the doors? Those logos are for private construction firms. Those workers in yellow vests? Their paychecks and benefits are coming from private businesses – many of them the very small businesses you want to hit with tax increases.
Next you can fly off to take a look at a utility project somewhere. Maybe you can find a sewer line being laid, or some electrical transmission lines being strung. Again – those are private companies doing that work with private sector workers.

You see, there’s a document out there that, frankly, I doubt you have ever read. It’s called The Declaration of Independence. I’m sure there’s a copy around your office somewhere. But I do want to save you a bit of trouble here -- knowing you busy you are fundamentally transforming American and all -- so I’ll provide you with a little excerpt from that document:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —

There! Do you see that? That government you’re so enamored of … that government you credit with Americas greatness … well, to paraphrase one of our presidents, “You didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.” That’s right, Dear Ruler, somebody else made that government happen .. and that somebody else is US. The government is OURS. We built it. We hire the people to run it. We have regular meetings every two years or so to decide whether we want to keep those managers or get rid of them to find better talent. Those roads .. our national infrastructure? We HIRED the government to build those things for us, just as we hire contractors to build our business locations and to design and manufacture the equipment we will use in the course of our businesses. We created this government – the government did not create us – and we contract with this government to do things for us on a grand scale because we recognize the inefficiencies of trying to do those things for ourselves. Government is just another contractor we hire to get our private business done.

But hold on a minute, Ruler Obama. There’s something else I want you to read before you put this letter down. You see, I didn’t include the whole quote from The Declaration of Independence above. I left something off … and here it is …
---That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Maybe it’s just me, but I’m of the opinion that when our elected leaders become so enamored of themselves, and of the government we have hired them to manage, they become a grave danger to those unalienable rights set forth in The Declaration – you know, the rights to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. The Declaration says we may “pursue” happiness. It does not guarantee it. You and the party you represent seem to think that happiness is a right, and have created a government that has now become destructive of the very ends it was designed to support.

There’s more than one way to alter or abolish at government, Ruler Obama. We’ll give one of them a good old college try in November.

Again .. thanks for your incursion into extemporaneous speech. We’ve learned a lot from and about you in the last week.

With all DUE Respect.

Neal Boortz.

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Originally posted by Niki2:
You know what, Raptor? YOU really need to give up on the "childish", "grow up" and all that bullshit. The attempt to minimize those who disagree with you by calling them children has long lost any value it ever had, it's predictable and very, very silly. It's an attempt at schoolyard bullying, nobody takes it seriously (if they ever did), and just sounds so lame it's beyond pathetic. I stopped responding to you long ago, and only read your posts sometimes out of bored amusement, because I already know what they will be and they're SO predictably ridiculous that's all they're good for.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Ayn Rand must have been... No, she WAS a prophet.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
It's not possible to have a discussion w/ folks who believe lies as you do. Small business owners pay for those roads, those utilities, those fire / police protection, so it's utterly irrational to ask of anyone's built a business w/ out ANY of those existing. This is what the Left does, distorts, lies, twists the issues, so that folks believe small business owners and those who work for a living are really no different, have done nothing special, or have sacrificed no more than anyone else.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I post less here than you do, Kwickie. I guess you have even a less of a real job than I do , huh?

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Really? Are you sure you post here less than I do? Is that a "claim" or a "fact"?

As for the "real job" bit, that was your claim; I never claimed that "losers" were doing nothing but sitting around watching TV, you did.

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Probably on welfare.

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Nope, sorry to disappoint, but I've never collected welfare. No food stamps, no unemployment, no disability. I work, I pay my taxes, and unlike you and Mittens, I don't whine about doing so.


By the way, Romney says that Obama is correct - you didn't build your business all by your lonesome; you had help from government. It's a thing called "infrastructure". You've probably never heard of it.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy