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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Eyes on me, rappy. Got your attention? Good. Keep paying attention, don't want you to miss this point: The talking head that you see on TV is not responsible for choosing the commercials or when they are aired. Did you get that?

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ALtho, I have to say... does anyone remember the miniseries on Nazi deathcamps? It was a big thing. But they aired commercials for oven cleaners and air fresheners right in the middle. GAAAK! Horrible choice, but in restrospect wildly funny.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Eyes on me, rappy. Got your attention? Good. Keep paying attention, don't want you to miss this point: The talking head that you see on TV is not responsible for choosing the commercials or when they are aired. Did you get that?

ALtho, I have to say... does anyone remember the miniseries on Nazi deathcamps? It was a big thing. But they aired commercials for oven cleaners and air fresheners right in the middle. GAAAK! Horrible choice, but in restrospect wildly funny.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

And how is this any worse than what the Greek female track star did, when she tweeted an unfunny, lame, but relatively harmless 'joke' about Africans and the West Nile virus ?

She got kicked out of the Olympics. I suspect nothing will happen to anyone in this situation, though.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Well now you've got one more thing to hate Greece for.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Stupid, thoughtless, unfunny, ignorant... that 'joke' was many things, but 'racist' wasn't one of them.

I think that sending her home was an over reaction.

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Stupid, thoughtless, unfunny, ignorant... that 'joke' was many things, but 'racist' wasn't one of them.

I think that sending her home was an over reaction.

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It was racist. Greece did not want someone who would even make such a joke representing their country, so not an over reaction.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Explain how it expressed any racial superiority , if you can.

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And how is this any worse than what the Greek female track star did

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That kind of overreaction makes me sad; surely there's a middle ground!

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And how is this any worse than what the Greek female track star did

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Huh? Was anyone suggesting it was worse? Did you get things the wrong way round here?

Are you seriously looking for heads to roll for this NBC incident goldraptor? Or just looking for an excuse to bring up the story of the Greek athlete again? For me the two incidents are not all that similar. And the Greeks can do what they want with their own athletes.

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Explain how it expressed any racial superiority , if you can.

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That is not what racism means, try again.

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Not hard to see why Rappy's sympathies are with the Greek athlete. She is, after all, a supporter of the hard-right party Golden Dawn.

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Your right Rappy, that is one definition. Another is simple hatred of others based on their race. That is what we had in this case.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Callous and insensitive, I get. But I still don't see this as being 'race' based. Her joke was, as I see it, geographical in nature, and could have applied to any group of people for similar sorts of reasons that have nothing to do with skin color.

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Callous and insensitive, I get. But I still don't see this as being 'race' based. Her joke was, as I see it, geographical in nature, and could have applied to any group of people for similar sorts of reasons that have nothing to do with skin color.

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It was about an area that is dominated by a particular race. Combined with her support of a political party which is racist (in both definitions of the word) and it is a hard sell that her comments were simple jokes.

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Callous and insensitive, I get. But I still don't see this as being 'race' based. Her joke was, as I see it, geographical in nature, and could have applied to any group of people for similar sorts of reasons that have nothing to do with skin color.

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It was about an area that is dominated by a particular race. Combined with her support of a political party which is racist (in both definitions of the word) and it is a hard sell that her comments were simple jokes.

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What if she'd said something about those who live in Iceland, affected by the recent volcano eruption ? Or made some silly Tsunami / earthquake joke ?

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I think folks are reading more into stupid comments, and over reacting a bit.

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What if she'd said something about those who live in Iceland, affected by the recent volcano eruption ? Or made some silly Tsunami / earthquake joke ?

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What if she'd said something about those who live in Iceland, affected by the recent volcano eruption ? Or made some silly Tsunami / earthquake joke ?

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Depending on the joke it could have been much the same. /b]

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Revolution just looks so "Hunger Games" in so many ways, plus I get the strong suspicion it will be one of those shows with no resolution, no closure, no real goal or endpoint.

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Revolution just looks so "Hunger Games" in so many ways, plus I get the strong suspicion it will be one of those shows with no resolution, no closure, no real goal or endpoint.

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Erik Kripke is running the show, and his prior show, Supernatural, was constructed around a pretty tight 5 year arc, which was roughly planned from the start. Id wager they have at least an idea of where they're going.

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Originally posted by AURAPTOR:
Exactly my point! It'd be equally lacking in tact, humor and good taste, but it'd NOT be viewed as 'racist'.

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Revolution just looks so "Hunger Games" in so many ways, plus I get the strong suspicion it will be one of those shows with no resolution, no closure, no real goal or endpoint.

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Erik Kripke is running the show, and his prior show, Supernatural, was constructed around a pretty tight 5 year arc, which was roughly planned from the start. Id wager they have at least an idea of where they're going.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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And let's face it - Supernatural should have STAYED on that five-year arc, because it's become unwatchable in the last couple years!



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Exactly my point! It'd be equally lacking in tact, humor and good taste, but it'd NOT be viewed as 'racist'.

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No I ment it depends on what the joke was, so telling a joke about another area or country could be just as racist as the one she did tell.

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Revolution just looks so "Hunger Games" in so many ways, plus I get the strong suspicion it will be one of those shows with no resolution, no closure, no real goal or endpoint.

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Erik Kripke is running the show, and his prior show, Supernatural, was constructed around a pretty tight 5 year arc, which was roughly planned from the start. Id wager they have at least an idea of where they're going.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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And let's face it - Supernatural should have STAYED on that five-year arc, because it's become unwatchable in the last couple years!



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Its not as good as it was, but I wouldn't call it unwatchable. Still better than any other genre show on. Ill take lesser Supernatural over Once Upon a Time or Grimm in a heartbeat.


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Originally posted by m52nickerson:

No I ment it depends on what the joke was, so telling a joke about another area or country could be just as racist as the one she did tell.

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Ya can't expect Rappy to realize the reason that jokes that don't contain a racial element aren't racist, but those whioch do contain a racial element CAN be. This is grown up level reasoning, and that's too taxing for the lad.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
But her joke wasn't 'racist', in the strict definition of the word.

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