Even more disturbing news on Libya coming out. by AURaptor

DALEK!

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
nickerson -

The attacks were NEVER linked to the anti Mohammed YouTube video. Never. How does this fact keep from penetrating into your brain pan ?

If there never was ANY connection, then how in the HELL does Hillary, Jay, Barack, Joey, and Susan come out and say that's what was the CAUSE of the riots ?

The " riots " which never existed, until AFTER the attack in Benghazi.

Do you know what an inference is?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:As soon as you show me where I lied.

I did, man up bitch.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:And does Kwickie not understand that in an unprecedented move, the State Dept is coming out AGAINST the administration and its own Secretary ???

That might be the case had the administration come out and claimed the attacks were because of the video without any doubt and was still sticking to that claim, or had they not been simply passing on what the intelligence community was telling them.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Saturday, October 13, 2012 5:30 PM

America loves a winner!

You didn't show where I lied.

You disagreeing, or even proving that I was wrong, does not = me LYING.

I'm fascinated at the Left's choreography and contortions of when the issue of lying comes up.

Clinton lied, undeniably, and the Left said " so what ? ". Lying was good, in that case, because he was trying to spare his family of humiliation, it was a private matter, and so on... bullshit. He lied.

Bush ? Never lied. At WORST, he was half wrong, because he said EXACTLY the same things that Clinton and the Dems had said, about Iraq and Saddam.

Me ? Show me where I said something, which I knew to be false, yet presented the opposite to be true.

You can't do it, because it NEVER happened. Not on this board. Ever.

Bitch.

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That might be the case had the administration come out and claimed the attacks were because of the video without any doubt and was still sticking to that claim, or had they not been simply passing on what the intelligence community was telling them.

They've done exactly that, multiple times. Oh, they've always had the caveat of not going fully " with out any doubt ", but the saturation of claiming ties to the imaginary protests ( which never were in Libya ) to the
obscure video are well documented. Denying that is about as ridiculous as claiming the Earth is 9,000 years old. You want to go for that ? Be my guest.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:17 PM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Me ? Show me where I said something, which I knew to be false, yet presented the opposite to be true.

You can't do it, because it NEVER happened. Not on this board. Ever.

"Roe v Wade makes abortion legal, everywhere, and free, to any woman, any where, any time she damn well wants. "

Are you saying you actually believe this to be the truth?

Or this:

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
So you are saying all Muslims are violent.

Yes, every muslim is violent, and should be put to death.

That's what I'm CLEARLY saying.

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Anyone not rich, white and from Western Europe should die.

Oh, and all socialists should die too.

Hell, as long as you're gonna be ridiculous, I'll play along too.

And Kwickie, liar that you are, you've never once posted any such examples as I've asked, because you know there are none.

And for that , you should die.

So, do you really firmly believe all of these things, or were you lying when you posted them?

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:28 PM

DALEK!

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You didn't show where I lied.

You disagreeing, or even proving that I was wrong, does not = me LYING.

You can't do it, because it NEVER happened. Not on this board. Ever.

Bitch.

It is lying when you have been shown before that you are wrong, and it is more that just disagreeing with you when I post a link proving my arguments.

Plus you have been proven a liar on this board many, many times. So many I might include that warning to people in my sig!

You don't have to pay me the $1000, just admit you were wrong.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:They've done exactly that, multiple times. Oh, they've always had the caveat of not going fully " with out any doubt ", but the saturation of claiming ties to the imaginary protests ( which never were in Libya ) to the
obscure video are well documented. Denying that is about as ridiculous as claiming the Earth is 9,000 years old. You want to go for that ? Be my guest.

You're a massive liar. You know full well that administration came out saying this is what we think has happened based on what intelligence is telling us. That is a far cry from making a claim as to what happened.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.

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Saturday, October 13, 2012 7:31 PM

Nick, he'll never pay you a penny of it, because he simply hasn't the honor to live up to his word.

Just look at the shabby way he's treated Magons after accusing her of saying things that she never said; he isn't even man enough to apologize for smearing her good name.

It should never be assumed that he has a shred of decency, honesty, integrity, honor, or humanity in him, because he's never shown such to be the case.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:45 PM

And, just because I'm bored and can't sleep right now, there's this favorite of all Rappy's whoppers:

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Originally posted by rue:
"Obama claims he'll cut taxes for 95 % of the country, when most of them don't even PAY income taxes."

Are you saying 95% of the country doesn't pay income taxes ? Or are you talking about 'them' - blacks ?

No, 95% of the American tax payers do NOT pay income taxes. It's a fact. Dunno why you are bringing up blacks into the equation. I'm talking tax payers.

"It's a fact."

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Sunday, October 14, 2012 1:57 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You didn't show where I lied.

You disagreeing, or even proving that I was wrong, does not = me LYING.

You can't do it, because it NEVER happened. Not on this board. Ever.

Bitch.

It is lying when you have been shown before that you are wrong, and it is more that just disagreeing with you when I post a link proving my arguments.

No, that isn't " lying ". And you've done no such thing.

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Plus you have been proven a liar on this board many, many times. So many I might include that warning to people in my sig!
Nope, never once have I lied on this board. Not even close. Been wrong ? Sure. I'm human. Everyone's been wrong, from time to time.

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You don't have to pay me the $1000, just admit you were wrong.

Wrong about what, specifically?

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You're a massive liar. You know full well that administration came out saying this is what we think has happened based on what intelligence is telling us. That is a far cry from making a claim as to what happened.

Now YOU are lying, and bearing false witness. There was no intel, none, which claimed the attack which was ever connected to the anti-Mohammed video. None. Yet this admin openly lied about it , time and time again.

You can't deny this. I've posted the clips of Jake Tapper, indignantly questioning Jay Carney, about this very issue.

All you're doing is BLINDLY following the spin from the White House. You ignore what the State Dept ( not Hillary ,btw ) itself says on the matter.

You're either delusional, naive, or flat out lying. Which is it ? Could it be all three ?

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:49 AM

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You didn't show where I lied.

You disagreeing, or even proving that I was wrong, does not = me LYING.

You can't do it, because it NEVER happened. Not on this board. Ever.

Bitch.

It is lying when you have been shown before that you are wrong, and it is more that just disagreeing with you when I post a link proving my arguments.

No, that isn't " lying ". And you've done no such thing.

Really? It isn't lying when you've been shown to be wrong, and you keep saying the same thing over and over, knowing that you're wrong?

Huh.

Then the word has no meaning.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Sunday, October 14, 2012 4:10 AM

America loves a winner!

Lying is lying. It has a clear, defined meaning, easy enough for a child to learn.

Clearly, you're not there yet.

Look it up.

Playing mindless semantics, and twisting the WH's unbelievable incompetence and ever changing story as to what they knew, when, and who knew it, doesn't qualify as ME lying.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 14, 2012 4:14 AM

DALEK!

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
No, that isn't " lying ". And you've done no such thing.

The only way you are not lying again is if you are to stupid to know you are doing it.

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Originally posted by AURaptor: Nope, never once have I lied on this board. Not even close. Been wrong ? Sure. I'm human. Everyone's been wrong, from time to time.

...and yet another lie.

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Wrong about what, specifically?

Wrong about this topic.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:Now YOU are lying, and bearing false witness. There was no intel, none, which claimed the attack which was ever connected to the anti-Mohammed video. None. Yet this admin openly lied about it , time and time again.

No you fuck stick. You obviously don't know what an inference is. I've never claimed, not once, that there was intel that said the video was the cause. having intel is different what what the intelligence community is saying. Right after the attack they thought that the video might be the cause. They had yet any other solid information. Regardless if there were protest in the streets there or not. It was basically there best guess at the time. The administration did not say anything more that this.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.

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Sunday, October 14, 2012 4:21 AM

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Originally posted by m52nickerson: Right after the attack they thought that the video might be the cause. They had yet any other solid information. Regardless if there were protest in the streets there or not. It was basically there best guess at the time. The administration did not say anything more that this.

Who is " they " ? That detail has yet to be revealed. Who TOLD Hillary,Barack, Jay, and Susan that there even WAS this YouTube video, which was released back in June, that it was in any way connected to the attack ??

W H O ??????

It wasn't the State Dept. ( Which is all manner of hi-larious , as Hillary is suppose to be the head of, yet she's at odds w/ her own frelling Dept!!! )

And please, show 1/2 a brain here. I'm not asking for the name of any 1 individual, but merely the part of the govt from where this YouTube video NONSENSE was first supplied to the admin, so they could come out on t.v. and talk it up for days and now weeks.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 14, 2012 4:49 AM

DALEK!

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Who is " they " ? That detail has yet to be revealed. Who TOLD Hillary,Barack, Jay, and Susan that there even WAS this YouTube video, which was released back in June, that it was in any way connected to the attack ??

W H O ??????

The Director of National Intelligence. This the the fucking second time I have told you this in this thread.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/28/us-usa-libya-intelligence-id
USBRE88R1EG20120928

So again, I will take my winnings.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:It wasn't the State Dept. ( Which is all manner of hi-larious , as Hillary is suppose to be the head of, yet she's at odds w/ her own frelling Dept!!! )

Of course it was not the State Department you fucking moron. The State Department is not a intelligence agency, it is a diplomatic one. Hillary was not at odds, because she was passing on the information from the intelligence community.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:13 AM

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Sorry, I'm not buying the 'ever shifting , changing story ' bit. State never claimed it was the YouTube video, and others had said, from the very start, that it was a coordinated attack. Why in the HELL would we believe our " intelligence " sources, who seemingly got this so completely wrong, ( imaginary " sudden " protests ), while others KNEW , from the very moment, that it was no damn angry mob scenario.

And Hillary WAS at odds w/ her own State Dept, as SHE said it was connected w/ this video no one saw, and then State came out and claims it was NEVER about any video!

You've " won " nothing, as you haven't been able to show where I LIED. We're at odds over this massive cover up, with you believing what the administration is shoveling, and me not, but that's about it.

And, as a general rule of thumb, when dealing w/ events like this, it's good policy to NOT to 'shoot first, then aim later', by claiming there was some ties to the video, when THERE NEVER WERE! If you don't KNOW something, you don't SAY something, simply to fill up air time on t.v., or to give your press sec something to yammer on about in front of the press. That's pretty much SOP with any EXPERIENCED, competent administration. This one ? Not so much.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:22 AM

DALEK!

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Sorry, I'm not buying the 'ever shifting , changing story ' bit. State never claimed it was the YouTube video, and others had said, from the very start, that it was a coordinated attack. Why in the HELL would we believe our " intelligence " sources, who seemingly got this so completely wrong, ( imaginary " sudden " protests ), while others KNEW , from the very moment, that it was no damn angry mob scenario.

The only thing shifting is the rocks in that empty head of yours.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:And Hillary WAS at odds w/ her own State Dept, as SHE said it was connected w/ this video no one saw, and then State came out and claims it was NEVER about any video!

You must not have any understanding of language.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:You've " won " nothing, as you haven't been able to show where I LIED. We're at odds over this massive cover up, with you believing what the administration is shoveling, and me not, but that's about it.

Keep telling yourself that. Maybe someday you will be sucking into an alternate reality were that is true.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:And, as a general rule of thumb, when dealing w/ events like this, it's good policy to NOT to 'shoot first, then aim later', by claiming there was some ties to the video, when THERE NEVER WERE! If you don't KNOW something, you don't SAY something, simply to fill up air time on t.v., or to give your press sec something to yammer on about in front of the press. That's pretty much SOP with any EXPERIENCED, competent administration. This one ? Not so much.

As a general rule of thumb you should have a better understanding of what people are saying than a three year old.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.

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Monday, October 15, 2012 4:33 AM