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Which kinda sucks, because I had hoped to engage in some mature, lively and civil discussions over real world matters. But too many here now have openly stated their intent here is nothing but to mock, poke fun and illicit any sort of response, rather than deal in sincere exchange of ideas.

As other's have parted ways from this forum, I too think it may be wise to do the same. The repetitive incidents by some of expanding on misleading and false minutia has left its toll. Whether by design or merely a display of colossal ignorance by some, does not matter.

You sad little kings who remain enjoy your sad, pathetic little hill.

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I have a simple solution which I've proposed several times, and I'm gonna re-propose it.

Where rational discussion doesn't work... IGNORE THE OTHER POSTER. People come to the board for all kinds of reasons, not just to converse. Some peeps, like Whozit, simply come to stir things up. They LOVE to poke the ant-hill and watch the flurry. Some - like rappy - come for their fix. Some people come to proselytize. Nothing stop bad behavior like LACK OF REWARD. If you simply do not provide peeps the response they're looking for they will either learn to interact differently or they will go away. Meanwhile, the discussion hasn't been derailed fruitlessly into ad hominem.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. Tit for tat doesn't work if the person you're dealing with can't see the mote in his own eye... he just winds up feeling "picked on" and victimized. {Emphasis Niki's}

So... can we all agree that most of us have to be grownups, and hold ourselves to a HIGHER standard than the one we're responding to?

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What I meant was simply that if AuRaptor is leaving RWED, that we let those initial impulses that apparently originated with him to leave with him also. If he decides to return, then I'd urge him to make a fresh start of things as well, trust me. But that can only be done if people are willing to forgive and forget, and that goes for him as well.

I'm not arguing that only AURaptor or Oppyh or myself or only Conservatives should be left alone in regards to anything we may post that has merit. That goes for anyone - Conservative/Republican, Liberal/Democrat, Libertarian, Christian, Atheist, etc. If anyone posts anything of merit, it should be given the thoughtful consideration and the chance for civilized discussion.

I'm trying to make generalized statements in order to get some agreement on how we should behave even if it means a vow to make a fresh start of things.

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the idea of ignoring ridiculous posts only works if nearly everyone participates

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to assert that minds haven't changed, that no ones position ever budges is, I think, a wee bit less than true

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