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Uh, oh - yet another of my attack pieces on Benghazi has been exposed for the talking points and faulty logic they are built on. Time to start another one!

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Storybook - Nothing what you say is remotely true. It's hilarious and sad at the blind stubborn ignorance you've chosen to display, simply because your lord and master, Barack Hussein Obama, has been dared to be criticized.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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You probably didn't bother watching the video, and have no clue who Pat Caddell is, his political history, and WHY this is so significant.

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But some guy on Fox is mad at Obama. Oooooh, THAT'S a change of pace!

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Pat Caddell is a respected former pollster for Democrat candidates and an insightful news analyst. In the speech below he really lays it all out, labeling the media as an enemy of the people. Going back to Jefferson and the Founders he makes a rock solid case:

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...and yet he is on Fox new, which is basically the media arm of the GOP and when to court to be able to lie.

http://foxnewsboycott.com/resources/fox-can-lie-lawsuit/

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.
...and now a Fundie!
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=53359

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nNow, back to your cartoonish replies!

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Pat Caddell is a respected former pollster for Democrat candidates and an insightful news analyst. In the speech below he really lays it all out, labeling the media as an enemy of the people. Going back to Jefferson and the Founders he makes a rock solid case:


...and yet he is on Fox new, which is basically the media arm of the GOP and when to court to be able to lie.

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...and yet he is on Fox new, which is basically the media arm of the GOP and when to court to be able to lie.

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He's on Fox News... So what? There are more Democrats appearing on Fox News than Republicans most of the time. Democrats like Debbie Wasserman -Schultz, Anthony Weiner, Ed Rendell, Alan Colmes, Joe Trippi, Kirsten Powers and dozens more. Most Democrat politicians appear on Fox News to make their case to it's large independent share of audience.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:There are vigorous debates every day about everything. That's what freedom of the press is all about. But hey, stick your head in the sand and refuse to try to be an informed person. When you pull it out of the sand one day you might find out you've missed out on large chunks of truth, including maybe why Obama is no longer President. You can start with the Caddell speech if you have any desire to be anything other than an ideological fool. Give it a try if you have any guts or integrity. C'mon, it won't hurt.

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And there it is. Just because it's on FOX, that alone, is enough for you to dismiss it and twist any damn thing you want.

The MSM is actively ignoring this story. Why ? We all know why. On all the Sunday AM talk shows, when ever the issue was brought up, each host skirted dealing with it, and or said they'd get back to that topic, but never did.

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Just because Fox news will run with stories from anonymous sources does not mean there is really a story. That is why any type of real new sources are not reporting anything new. They have integrity.

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Watergate was broken on an " anonymous " source. But there is FAR more this story than FOX's alleged anonymous sources. There are the conflicting stories from the WH, the released e-mails, and oh yeah...4 dead Americans.

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You probably didn't bother watching the video, and have no clue who Pat Caddell is, his political history, and WHY this is so significant.

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Ignore the substance of the issue, and instead go after the messenger.

Saul Alinsky, 101.

Good god, the Left are pathetically predictable.

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And there it is. Just because it's on FOX, that alone, is enough for you to dismiss it....

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nickerson - you just confirmed my point. You had no clue of who Pat Caddell was, and then hurried off to a BASTION of unbiased information 'salon.com'. to do a quick study on the guy you just trashed, thinking he was probably just some Right Wing talk show host, or some such.

You're ignore everything he said, out of hand, and because salon.com paints him as a conservative, that's good enough for you!

Now, back to your cartoonish replies!

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You probably didn't bother watching the video, and have no clue who Pat Caddell is, his political history, and WHY this is so significant.

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Guilty.

Don't know who he is, don't care, don't waste time on your idiotic videos.


You were saying?

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"In 1988, Caddell left the Democratic Party after an acrimonious lawsuit with a Democratic consulting firm, Caddell, Doak and Shrum. Republicans would often cite Caddell's tirades against the Democratic Party when they spoke on the floor of the House and the Senate." WIKI

I find no mention that he ever rejoined the party. *EX*democrat from 24 years ago seems like a better description.

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"And poor analogy between Caddell ( Democrat ) to Maddow ( extreme Liberal ). Pat is a life long Democrat, who has no show of his own. Maddow thrives on vilifying the GOP, because that's how she earns her living, on a network which is wholly dedicated to spinning the news."

So your post is immaterial. Thanks for pointing that out.

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You probably didn't bother watching the video, and have no clue who Pat Caddell is, his political history, and WHY this is so significant.

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Guilty.

Don't know who he is, don't care, don't waste time on your idiotic videos.


You were saying?

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You don't care. So why do you keep posting in my threads ?

And poor analogy between Caddell ( Democrat ) to Maddow ( extreme Liberal ). Pat is a life long Democrat, who has no show of his own. Maddow thrives on vilifying the GOP, because that's how she earns her living, on a network which is wholly dedicated to spinning the news.

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I see there's no rational talk w/ some. Pat's whole reason for making such claims is purely financial, and nothing else ?

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I see there's no rational talk w/ some. Pat's whole reason for making such claims is purely financial, and nothing else ? That's how you truly see this, and not for the cover up that it actually is ?

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I see there's no rational talk w/ some. Pat's whole reason for making such claims is purely financial, and nothing else ?

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Well there is that whole dispute with the Dem party and the fact he has been supporting conservative causes for quite awhile.

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* There is unquestionably a cover up going on here. Whether it's nothing more than mere incompetence, or something else, remains to be seen.

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And how is that remotely related to the story of Tyrone Woods ? Please, elaborate. Did you even bother to watch the video ? Pat appeared to be genuinely upset, and not merely " playing politics " . In fact, he made it a point to NOT make it about politics.

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Jongstraw

"Jeanine Pirro is a woman of significant personal accomplishments during her life. She rarely, if ever, gets involved in politics ..."


Except when she's running for office and involved in party politics?

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"You can start with the Caddell speech..."


You're a reasonably smart person.

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But I watched and what I saw was an incoherent man who was ill-prepared to speak, might have been drunk, and didn't make any solid points that I could notice....
...I've watched. Twice all the way through and many parts many times. I took the time to track down every story and every name he mentioned, no matter how peripheral. And I found no there there. Perhaps you can tell me what was so great about it.

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Man you are a fucking idiot. The President seems genuinely upset that people are claiming that there is a coverup, when there is not one.

...so do you believe him?

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Barry was upset that anyone DARED to not buy his line of bullshit.

Because there was unquestionably a cover up, be it for ineptness of this administration, or some other reason.

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Covering up this administration's ineptness in 4 dead Americans, including a US ambassador, isn't a "game". Least, not to the rest of America. Might be for Barry.

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* There is unquestionably a cover up going on here. Whether it's nothing more than mere incompetence, or something else, remains to be seen.

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I'm questioning it, ergo it is not "unquestionably" anything at all.

You've shown no evidence of any kind of cover-up, and believe it or not, we don't all just take your word for it when you say things like "There is unquestionably a cover up going on here."

I want to see your proof, what you have that makes it "unquestionable" in your mind. So far all you've provided are opinion pieces.

Hate to break it to you, sparky, but op-ed pieces aren't evidence.

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Should I feign surprise?

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