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Wednesday, November 7, 2012 7:56 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Wednesday, November 7, 2012 8:03 PM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Quote: In volume one of his two-volume set, Asimov’s Guide to the Bible, the late infidel, Isaac Asimov (who was serving as the president of the American Humanist Association when he died in 1992), dealt with the topic of the unicorn as it is found in the King James Version when he wrote: The Hebrew word represented in the King James Version by “unicorn” is re’em, which undoubtedly refers to the wild ox (urus or aurochs) ancestral to the domesticated cattle of today. The re’em still flourished in early historical times and a few existed into modern times, although it is now extinct. It was a dangerous creature of great strength and was similar in form and temperament to the Asian buffaloes. The Revised Standard Version translates re’em as “wild ox.” The verse in Numbers is translated as “they have as it were the horns of the wild ox,” while the one in Job is translated “Is the wild ox willing to serve you?” The Anchor Bible translates the verse in Job as “Will the buffalo deign to serve you?” The wild ox was a favorite prey of the hunt-loving Assyrian monarchs (the animal was called rumu in Assyrian, essentially the same word as re’em) and was displayed in their large bas-reliefs. Here the wild ox was invariably shown in profile and only one horn was visible. One can well imagine that the animal represented in this fashion would come to be called “one-horn” as a familiar nickname, much as we might refer to “longhorns” in speaking of a certain breed of cattle. As the animal itself grew less common under the pressure of increasing human population and the depredations of the hunt, it might come to be forgotten that there was a second horn hidden behind the first in the sculptures and “one-horn” might come to be considered a literal description of the animal. When the first Greek translation of the Bible was prepared about 250 B.C., the animal was already rare in the long-settled areas of the Near East and the Greeks, who had no direct experience with it, had no word for it. They used a translation of “one-horn” instead and it became monokeros. In Latin and in English it became the Latin word for “one-horn”; that is, “unicorn." The Biblical writers could scarcely have had the intention of implying that the wild ox literally had one horn. There is one Biblical quotation, in fact, that clearly contradicts that notion. In the Book of Deuteronomy [33:17—BT], when Moses is giving his final blessing to each tribe, he speaks of the tribe of Joseph (Ephraim and Manasseh) as follows: “His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns....” Here the word is placed in the plural since the thought of a “one-horn’s” single horn seems to make the phrase “horns of a unicorn” self-contradictory. Still, the original Hebrew has the word in the singular so that we must speak of the “horns of a unicorn,” which makes it clear that a unicorn has more than one horn (1968, pp. 186-187).
Thursday, November 8, 2012 5:14 AM
BYTEMITE
Thursday, November 8, 2012 7:59 AM
OONJERAH
Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:53 AM
Quote:Unicorns are not found in Greek mythology, but rather in accounts of natural history, for Greek writers of natural history were convinced of the reality of the unicorn, which they located in India, a distant and fabulous realm for them. [...] Pliny the Elder mentions the oryx and an Indian ox as one-horned beasts, as well as "a very fierce animal called the monoceros which has the head of the stag, the feet of the elephant, and the tail of the boar, while the rest of the body is like that of the horse; it makes a deep lowing noise, and has a single black horn, which projects from the middle of its forehead, two cubits in length."
Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:05 AM
Thursday, November 8, 2012 1:45 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:14 PM
Quote: 1 Can you pull in the leviathan with a fishhook or tie down his tongue with a rope? 2 Can you put a cord through his nose or pierce his jaw with a hook? 3 Will he keep begging you for mercy? Will he speak to you with gentle words? 4 Will he make an agreement with you for you to take him as your slave for life? 5 Can you make a pet of him like a bird or put him on a leash for your girls? 6 Will traders barter for him? Will they divide him up among the merchants? 7 Can you fill his hide with harpoons or his head with fishing spears? 8 If you lay a hand on him, you will remember the struggle and never do it again! 9 Any hope of subduing him is false; the mere sight of him is overpowering. 10 No-one is fierce enough to rouse him. Who then is able to stand against me? 11 Who has a claim against me that I must pay? Everything under heaven belongs to me. 12 I will not fail to speak of his limbs, his strength and his graceful form. 13 Who can strip off his outer coat? Who would approach him with a bridle? 14 Who dares open the doors of his mouth, ringed about with his fearsome teeth? 15 His back has rows of shields tightly sealed together; 16 each is so close to the next that no air can pass between. 17 They are joined fast to one another; they cling together and cannot be parted. 18 His snorting throws out flashes of light; his eyes are like the rays of dawn. 19 Firebrands stream from his mouth; sparks of fire shoot out. 20 Smoke pours from his nostrils as from a boiling pot over a fire of reeds. 21 His breath sets coals ablaze, and flames dart from his mouth. 22 Strength resides in his neck; dismay goes before him. 23 The folds of his flesh are tightly joined; they are firm and immovable. 24 His chest is hard as rock, hard as a lower millstone. 25 When he rises up, the mighty are terrified; they retreat before his thrashing. 26 The sword that reaches him has no effect, nor does the spear or the dart or the javelin. 27 Iron he treats like straw and bronze like rotten wood. 28 Arrows do not make him flee, sling stones are like chaff to him. 29 A club seems to him but a piece of straw, he laughs at the rattling of the lance. 30 His undersides are jagged potsherds, leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing-sledge. 31 He makes the depths churn like a boiling cauldron and stirs up the sea like a pot of ointment. 32 Behind him he leaves a glistening wake; one would think the deep had white hair. 33 Nothing on earth is his equal— a creature without fear. 34 He looks down on all that are haughty; he is king over all that are proud.
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Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:28 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Wednesday, November 14, 2012 1:42 PM
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Quote:And the Universe is not eternal, because even the stars will fade.
Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:25 PM
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Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:10 AM
Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: There is some precedence for "I am that is." In hebrew, that is the tetragrammaton, YHWH or Yahweh. Most people will recognize that reference instantly.
Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:42 AM
Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:59 AM
Quote:"We believed there is intelligence in/of the U far greater than any human. Some of the Intelligent were, like us, creatures/created by the ultimate intelligence, the Universe. The intelligence of the Universe was not considered to be human-like or egotistical. Nor understandable or describeable.
Quote:I assume (foolishly?) there are Creatures more than twice as smart as Homo Sap, and they are in awe of the infinite intelligence of the Creator.
Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:18 AM
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Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:12 AM
Quote:I know that nirvana is supposed to be something like merging with the universe as a whole and becoming immortal.
Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:15 AM
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Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:51 AM
Quote:Byte, you claim to have been raised free of religion. I'd expect it'd be quite easy for you to consider a higher intelligence free of religion.
Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:58 PM
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